DNOTTIS

The bottleneck is the lousy drivers.  Good luck getting it fixed!

_Nite_

DNOTTIS

The bottleneck is the lousy drivers.  Good luck getting it fixed!

if that was the case it be happening to everyone with GTX 4xx

HeavyHemi

nexxusty

I have had it with my GTX 470. I drop $400+ on a GPU and I get the worst performance in a ton of games.

Games stutter and exhibit low gpu usage. Except a couple. Dirt 2 and Trackmania Nations, both racing games lol. I know for a fact all the stutter people are experiencing in Bad Company 2 is because of GPU usage drop offs.

I was playing Splinter Cell Conviction today, just started the game and I get to a certain area and my gpu usage drops off and my fps becomes very low. As soon as I look upon this scene I get a massive frameskip (stutter) and my gpu usage is at 37%. Literally at the EXACT same time the GPU stutters the usage becomes very low.

I am going to post a video of this, but I am really not doing so well with all the people saying it's not the GTX 400 series, it's our systems. It's NOT our systems, not this issue. Why would my usage drop to 37% on a scene that requires MORE geometry to be rendered? Case in point: I was looking at an effing wall, with 78% gpu usage. Turn around to get frameskip to a wide open scene with 44fps and 37% gpu usage.

THAT is pathetic. I have been doing this since I was 10. Ive seen it all, this is an OBVIOUS bug, and I'd love to hear anything else. I am going to post a video of this showing my gpu usage. After that, there can be no debate.

Then obviously something is wrong as I have a ton of games and excellent performance in all of them. Even Fallout 3 the stutter King is smooth. If you've been building systems for a period of time  of course you know we really can't help you without having more information than the equivalent of yelling at your mechanic 'car broke fix it'. Give us some more information. Your set up incl. hardware O/S etc etc.

rafter1974

DNOTTIS

HeavyHemi

nexxusty

I have had it with my GTX 470. I drop $400+ on a GPU and I get the worst performance in a ton of games.

Games stutter and exhibit low gpu usage. Except a couple. Dirt 2 and Trackmania Nations, both racing games lol. I know for a fact all the stutter people are experiencing in Bad Company 2 is because of GPU usage drop offs.

I was playing Splinter Cell Conviction today, just started the game and I get to a certain area and my gpu usage drops off and my fps becomes very low. As soon as I look upon this scene I get a massive frameskip (stutter) and my gpu usage is at 37%. Literally at the EXACT same time the GPU stutters the usage becomes very low.

I am going to post a video of this, but I am really not doing so well with all the people saying it's not the GTX 400 series, it's our systems. It's NOT our systems, not this issue. Why would my usage drop to 37% on a scene that requires MORE geometry to be rendered? Case in point: I was looking at an effing wall, with 78% gpu usage. Turn around to get frameskip to a wide open scene with 44fps and 37% gpu usage.

THAT is pathetic. I have been doing this since I was 10. Ive seen it all, this is an OBVIOUS bug, and I'd love to hear anything else. I am going to post a video of this showing my gpu usage. After that, there can be no debate.

Then obviously something is wrong as I have a ton of games and excellent performance in all of them. Even Fallout 3 the stutter King is smooth. If you've been building systems for a period of time  of course you know we really can't help you without having more information than the equivalent of yelling at your mechanic 'car broke fix it'. Give us some more information. Your set up incl. hardware O/S etc etc.

We've compared a multitude of the computers with the same problems.  The only thing alot of us had in common was an X-FI.  But we've ruled that out, I removed mine, didn't even bother to enable onboard and reinstalled Windows 7 and BF BC2 - stutter was still there.  I then enabled onboard sound, installed latest drivers, stutter still there.  Cosmosis909 even went and bought an AMD x4 to test the GTX 480 in... and it still existed when he moved it from his i7 rig to the AMD rig.


There has been nothing in common other than that in some of these machines with the stutter... except the Nvidia GTX 480 GPU..and of that we had different bioses on them and they are different manufacturers.  From there we went on to compare the version of BF BC2 we were running and again they were all different.


I even went back and tried Vista, Cosmosis went back to XP and still saw it.  As most of us were using Win7 x64 - but we've ruled that out too.

But your problem is just BFBC2, not "tons of games" as the OP is mentioning. You can't lump every person who has an issue with these cards into your same group of people.

I'd also love to see a video from this guy, because the only issue I've seen with Splinter Cell: Conviction is in 3D Vision, where there is a huge leak that causes frames to plummet. With a single 480 my gpu utilization doesn't drop below 70% ever, and usually hovers in the 85-90% range in SC:C. I've actually been testing the game a lot since yesterday when I bought it due to the 3D Vision issues, and I can find nothing wrong with playing it outside of 3D.

nexxusty

First of all. You guys are awesome. Lots of replies and help offered.

I got busy dealing with the GF last night so that took my whole night. As soon as I can get that video up, I will.

I have a Q9550 @ 3.86ghz @ 453mhz FSB/Performance Level 7. I cannot see my CPU being a bottleneck. I do have DDR2 RAM, my kit is 4gb though and my bandwidth is stellar for DDR2. I get about 9.7gb/s real world. 54.5NS latency. From my tests, that is almost equal to DDR3 @ 1333mhz+ un-tweaked. Bandwidth wise anyways. And latency wise I am golden. My GTX 470 is @ 825/1650/2225 and it passes 30 mins of you name it with no artifacts. I have tested @ stock as well, and with slightly increased voltages @ stock. No difference.

I have used every driver available for the GTX 400 series. Hell, I have even tried modding older drivers. It installs but the device is yellow flagged in DM. I am pretty sure it's just one file that I need to replace allowing it to recognize the architecture. nHancer is awesome with these cards. 19x.xx only though. My PSU is a PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750w. It's not the PSU. I have tested other cards with this PSU in the past (recently) with no problems. Even 4870 Crossfire.

Just installed AvP, going to check that out quickly and I will get that SC:C video up ASAP.

*edit* Just played the first level in AvP. Everything on high, all DX 11 features on high. 4xAA and 16xAF no Vsync. Smooth as butter, no lag at all.

I have said this before and will say it again (not here). DX11 games usually play fine. I am having the most issues with DX10 and 9 games.

nexxusty

Normally I'd agree. But the OP in that thread doesn't know a damn thing.

And the guy who basically took it over (DNOTTIS) has a 5870 now, so he's obviously not going to contribute anymore.

There ARE methods to my madness.

nexxusty

DNOTTIS

nexxusty

Normally I'd agree. But the OP in that thread doesn't know a damn thing.

And the guy who basically took it over (DNOTTIS) has a 5870 now, so he's obviously not going to contribute anymore.

There ARE methods to my madness.

I've got both cards.  Nvidia wanted to borrow my GTX 480 which is why I now have a 5870.  They are going to swap me for one of theirs.  I'm waiting for them to setup the cross ship still.  I'm still contributing but I've been working on this for 4 months.  I needed a break from troubleshooting / reinstalling Windows every day / testing stuff, so far I'm watching, waiting to see what others come up with.

I've read through your epic journey. ;)

Basically I am trying to pick up where you left off. You do deserve a break. LOL. I personally appreciate all the testing you have done, immensely. I have no where to go as of yet, but at least I know what not to try.

I thought for the longest time it could of been my Creative Audigy. Your troubleshooting helped me see it wasn't.

bigbrag

I have built 5-6 computers in the last few months with both 470's and 480's. All systems were extremely high end. I even owned an sr-2 and 3 480's but I was experiencing the same problems as the OP in many games. The game that bothered me the most was Left 4 Dead 2. The game would be fine and then every 5-10 minutes the gpu ussage would drop and the fps would go between 10-15fps. This has been extremely annoying. I dropped to 2 480's thinking that it was microstuttering but the problem still exists. The problem is wide spread, its not only one person's problem. It seems to be related to specific games and is a driver problem. Anyone who denies it is an idiot in my opinion. I love my water cooled 480's, but I keep a spare 9800gt just for certain games like L4D2 because it is very irritating when I'm playing an online game and my fps drops so low that I get killed.