How Much does my pc add to my electric bill

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mhalstern
Superclocked Member
2010/04/06 19:48:49
I pay 9.3 cents per hw/h for electricity.
 
EVGA X58 3x SLI I7-920
 
If I run this at stock 2.67 ghz for 1 hour, how much does it add to my electric bill.  How much does it add if I run it at 4.0 GHZ for 1 hour.  For both examples, assume I am using all 4 cores (HT off) at 100%.
 
Please explain the math.
 
Thanks
mcochris
Superclocked Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/06 21:09:30
Get this (easy) or this and then plug wattage into this. My mb uses about 240 watts @ 3.6G.  So @ 9.3 cents per kw/h that's 54 cents a day if I leave it on 7x24 at this OC.  Speedstep, sleep, etc will reduce electrical cost.  Don't forget to add taxes and other charges they tack on to the electric bill to determine your real cost per kw/h.
mdswish
iCX Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/07 07:02:08
You're talking about adding pennies per month.  CPUs aren't nearly the juice hog that vid cards are.  You're not going to notice any significant increase by OC'ing your CPU.
II NaZ II
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/07 08:48:48
Damn, I thought it cost a lot less to run this damn thing:

Cost Per Hour: $0.037600
Cost Per Day: $0.902400
Cost Per Week: $6.317
Cost Per Month: $25.27
Cost Per Year: $328.47

Avg about 330w(idle) - 720w with everyday gaming so I just tossed about 400w into the mix. Use my UPS battery to monitor use. Cool Usage calc!

Alucard666
CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/07 09:31:53
So I figure, based on what was said here that my system probably costs me about 60 cents a day to run.
cervezamonster
iCX Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/07 09:35:54
interesting thread. used to share a house with about 4 other people (rent/utilities) and one guy was always yelling at me and my bro to turn off our PCs during the day to save on electricity. it seems he really had nothing to complain about afterall.
Alucard666
CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/07 09:46:30
cervezamonster

interesting thread. used to share a house with about 4 other people (rent/utilities) and one guy was always yelling at me and my bro to turn off our PCs during the day to save on electricity. it seems he really had nothing to complain about afterall.


Tell me about it! My dad always complains how I leave my comp on 24/7 and how its putting strain on the bill....But in reality its costing less than $20 a month.
mdswish
iCX Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/07 11:36:39
That's a reasonable average.  Take into account too, that it's not just your PC that consumes the electricity, but also your monitor, speakers, cable modem, router, printer, external hard drive and so on.  To get the true cost of running your PC, you would also have to include those devices as well.   The cost at that point may nearly double.  Ovens, clothes dryers, furnaces, air conditioners and some big screen tvs use WAY more juice than a PC.  Although, unplugging or just turning off certain devices when not being used may not save much individually, but when combined it would certainly add up over time.  Want to offset the electricity your PC uses?  Take a few days a year when the weather is nice and open some windows in your home instead of turning on the A/C.  Those savings will add up quick.
post edited by mdswish - 2010/04/07 11:39:11
Alucard666
CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/07 11:47:23
mdswish

That's a reasonable average.  Take into account too, that it's not just your PC that consumes the electricity, but also your monitor, speakers, cable modem, router, printer, external hard drive and so on.  To get the true cost of running your PC, you would also have to include those devices as well.   The cost at that point may nearly double.  Ovens, clothes dryers, furnaces, air conditioners and some big screen tvs use WAY more juice than a PC.  Although, unplugging or just turning off certain devices when not being used may not save much individually, but when combined it would certainly add up over time.  Want to offset the electricity your PC uses?  Take a few days a year when the weather is nice and open some windows in your home instead of turning on the A/C.  Those savings will add up quick.


ok.....$30 then XD
airddragon
Superclocked Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/07 13:53:46
Okay, before when I was running my computer 24/7 I was paying $112 a month.  After turning my computer off every night and while at work my bill dropped to $101 a month.  $11 a month is $132 a year or by my math 3-6 game purchases a year.  Seems more than worth it to turn it off during the day while at work and night after I'm done with it :)
Sum1uNo83
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/07 16:33:57
 very interesting thread indeed. however if your worried about the cost to run your rig, asumming you have grade A parts. I would be more worried about the money spend on the parts and not the electric. 
mcochris
Superclocked Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/08 06:34:56
Also consider the possible costs to remove the heat generated by the PC.  If your PC consumes 300 watts of power, that's 300 watts of heat generated.  Depending on the way you cool your home/office, it could cost more to remove the heat then it did to generate it.
Alucard666
CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/08 06:39:49
mcochris

Also consider the possible costs to remove the heat generated by the PC.  If your PC consumes 300 watts of power, that's 300 watts of heat generated.  Depending on the way you cool your home/office, it could cost more to remove the heat then it did to generate it.


That's true too. XD
Hillguy
FTW Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/08 07:04:44
You are assuming we all pay to "cool" our homes , i'm in Canada we need the Heat  

mhalstern
Superclocked Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/08 08:17:05
I'm technically a drop over 4.0 Ghz.  My last CPU-Z Screenshot reads 4001.2 MHZ.  I would like to join Club i7 Stability.  That logo is super cool!
mcochris
Superclocked Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/09 15:11:44
Hillguy: you hoser ;-)  Why is your house underground?  I tried to visit Canada once, but it was closed.
rambler358
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/09 15:19:29
II NaZ II Damn, I thought it cost a lot less to run this damn thing:

Cost Per Hour: $0.037600
Cost Per Day: $0.902400
Cost Per Week: $6.317
Cost Per Month: $25.27
Cost Per Year: $328.47

Avg about 330w(idle) - 720w with everyday gaming so I just tossed about 400w into the mix.

Those calcs are for 24hr/day usage.  Are you folding?
bill.malone
New Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/09 15:40:54
I make a good living, but one of the things I have always found to be true is when you want to save money, it is the recurring stuff you pay for each month--those things, cumulativlely, all added up, are the difference between saving money and not. 

In my house, I noticed a $20 drop per month in my electric bill when I turned off (set auto sleep after 30 minutes) just the office computer (it was on 24/7).  I have four computers in the house - easy money.
Nereus
Captain Goodvibes
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/09 17:14:07
I've read that just leaving appliances plugged in on 'standby' uses power - not just your PC running, but other items like your TV, cable box and bluray player etc all on standby are still sucking up power.. I might try unplugging all these items for a month when I'm not home and see what happens to the power bill. 
bill.malone
New Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/09 17:38:07
That is true - the amounts are fairly minor per device, but add them all up.... 

Obviously not in the same class of a savings as turning off or sleeping device.
KMoore4318
Pistoj Doulos Unum Pluribus
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/09 18:50:50
If you Fold you can earn $10 month through EVGA, you will spend two to three times that amount in electricity, not to mention the cost of the cards, NOT a good investment if your doing it for the EVGA bucks, Most of us that fold just look at the EVGA bucks as a bonus, and don't do it for them anyway, It's just EVGA's way of giveing back a little to the comunity. ( And the folders on other teams don't even get that ),     
lehpron
Regular Guy
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/09 22:18:32
Where I live, the final-cost-to-me electrity is $1 per year, per watt, if I run it 8hr/day.  So a 300W system would cost me $300 a year as long as I don't use more than 8hrs each day.  I'll use my rate for the folling examples.

I have a link in my sig that details CPU lifespan as a function of wattage ratios, but I'll save you the trouble and copy/paste:

A simple formula for estimating the ratio of power due to an OC is (the Bclock ratio) x (multiplier ratio) x (CPU Vcore ratio)2, ratios with respect to stock values (which is batch dependant).


How is this relevant?  4Ghz is 50% faster than 2.66GHz, which is approximately double the wattage (both heat and power) depending on the batch and individual CPU properties (no two 920's are alike).  For an i7 920, that's 200W for the CPU at 4Ghz, about as much as a high-end video card like GTX285 or GTX470.  It means adding $100/yr to your electric bill for the CPU alone.

Many people who overclock justify the extra costs, as the whole reason they do it is for what they use the system for.
fanboy
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/10 08:35:01
I hope to contorl mine alittle as i just upgraded to the i7 930 and i plan to leave it at stock.. but i will be adding another 5850 for crossfire and i heard the second card only powers up when needed in 3D .. also i run Eyefinity but when just doing desktop work i run only one lcd which saves 62 watts having the other two power down.. it going be inresting.
mcochris
Superclocked Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/10 10:10:44
If you don't know how many watts your PC uses and are too cheap ;-) too get the watt meter, you can estimate your power usage here  I tried it and it was ~ 20 watts over my actual.
mcochris
Superclocked Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/12 17:07:08
Get this: my i3 530 HTPC (MSI) @ 133x22 (2926 Mhz) uses 25 watts idle and 68 watts at 100% load!  At 189x19 (3591 Mhz), 54 watts idle, 78 watts load.  Integrated graphics.  So I gotta be asking myself: punk, is the i7 920 worth 3x the power?


Nereus
Captain Goodvibes
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/12 19:51:56
mcochris
Get this: my i3 530 HTPC (MSI) @ 133x22 (2926 Mhz) uses 25 watts idle and 68 watts at 100% load!  At 189x19 (3591 Mhz), 54 watts idle, 78 watts load.  Integrated graphics.  So I gotta be asking myself: punk, is the i7 920 worth 3x the power?

Of course it is, and then some!



HalloweenWeed
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/13 06:50:36
The power used by an X58 computer with high-powered graphics cards is very significant. To illustrate just how significant:
Lets take a computer that actually uses 525 watts. And lets say your PS is 90% efficient. That's 583 watts at your plug. (525/.9 = 583.33)
Did you know electric ranges are usually 3000-4000 watts in use, max, that means the oven and the top burners!
583/3500 = 16.67%     1/.1667 = 6
That means for every 6 hours you leave your computer on, it's like using all the elements in your electric stove on high - with the oven door open and on broil - on for an hour! About the same amount of electricity - this is no exaggeration BTW. You could heat somewhere around 50 gallons of water with that electricity. And that's not including the monitor, printer, nor anything else. FYI.


And then there's Air Conditioning. Most of that wattage is dissipated in the form or heat. So all that extra electricity used is actually about doubled if you are using AC, bc it is about the same or more expensive to pump that heat out of your home as it is to generate it with electric heating elements. But conversely it would help heat your home when it's cold outside, reducing your heating bill, if it's not electric (that's not a very good thing since electric heat is one of the most expensive and least efficient). (I live in Maine, USA - cold climate.)

So when you are using AC, the example in paragraph 1 above is only half of your bill.

BTW, I use ATI 5800 series cards that only sip power like a much lesser card when the power is not needed.

Are you sure you want to leave your computer on for folding@home? And what is that doing to the planet?


Alex2190
iCX Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/13 07:02:30
as long as i am in college and dont pay for the electricity, i will fold and leave it on all the time, once i start paying, i may change my mind
futuremark2
Superclocked Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/13 14:02:17
with my setup it went up at least 120 USD all the way to 200+.
Estin
New Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/13 14:52:57
HalloweenWeed
Lets take a computer that actually uses 525 watts.


Pulling 525W at idle would be very high.  I have a kill-a-watt and my UPS tells has an LED display showing how much is being pulled from the wall.  I have an OC i7 920, 2x 285s, 3 hard drives, 7 fans, DVD-RW, etc.  and when my computer is sitting idle with the monitor off I am pulling around 220W from the wall.  Doing stuff like web browsing I pull around 330W.  When I am doing intense gaming it varies widely, but can get a bit over 800W. 

The way I calculate cost is by using the approximation $1 / watt / year.  This works out to 11.4 cents/KWh, so specific cost can be off by a bit; but this approximation is easy to do and gets you in the right ballpark.

I leave my computer on all the time, and use it for gaming maybe 20 hours a week.  20 hours a week  is about 12% of the time, so my cost is like 700W * $1/W/Yr * 0.12 + 220W * $1/W/Y * 0.88 = ~$280/yr.  If I turned my computer off when I was not using it, say maybe 75% of the time, then I could save 220W * $1/W/yr * 3/4 = $165/yr which is a non-trivial amount of money.

HVAC cost is an interesting angle.  In the winter when I am running the heat then this power is really a wash, because if my computer did not heat up the house then my furnace would have to fill in this extra heat.  In the summer when I run the AC though, I get billed double (a little more than double actually): for the computer power and for the AC to remove that heat.  So it is like a 0x cost multiplier in the winter, 2.3x multiplier in the summer, and 1x in the spring and fall.  What I need is a way to vent the computer heat outside during the summer to get that multiplier back down to 1x :)






[WoS]Anubis
New Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/13 15:00:44
i dont even want to imagine my bill -.-
pgajr
Superclocked Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/13 16:04:29
Oh man it's gonna take like an hour to get to the BBQ to cook supper. At least the beer will stay cold while you cook, lol.

HILLGUY

You are assuming we all pay to "cool" our homes , i'm in Canada we need the Heat  





HalloweenWeed
CLASSIFIED Member
Re:How Much does my pc add to my electric bill 2010/04/14 12:59:26
Estin
Pulling 525W at idle would be very high.  I have a kill-a-watt and my UPS tells has an LED display showing how much is being pulled from the wall.  I have an OC i7 920, 2x 285s, 3 hard drives, 7 fans, DVD-RW, etc.  and when my computer is sitting idle with the monitor off I am pulling around 220W from the wall.  Doing stuff like web browsing I pull around 330W.

Yeah, so it would be like 10 hrs of computer use would be like your electric range on high all elements glowing for an hour. Still, my point is valid (I know you never said it wasn't). Bottom line: Your high-performance gaming PC eats a lot of electricity. That's why I have adjusted mine to use Speedstep and C6 power-savings CPU sleep state (when idle). It doesn't slow down 3D gaming, and it still allows me a very good - and cool - OC of 3.58GHz.

post edited by HalloweenWeed - 2010/04/14 13:05:53
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