EVGA

Steam & Origin Policy for intkeys.com

Page: 123 > Showing page 1 of 3
Author
sk2play
CLASSIFIED Member
  • Total Posts : 4437
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2009/07/12 15:19:13
  • Location: Westminster, CO
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 8
2011/11/10 16:22:50 (permalink)
There are many posts with the link to intkeys.com 
I asked STEAM about this site as follows:
 
I did a search for "intkeys" and it found no search results on STEAM. I want to make sure I do not breach the STEAM TOS so here is my question.

If I buy Steam Keys from this site below, am I breaking the STEAM TOS?

http://www.intkeys.com/

Many of there keys are from Russia and converted via their VPN scheme to be region free and/or able to be validated on STEAM. All this is legal according to the author of this site which has been up and running since 2008.

TIA as I don't want to jeopardize my highly valued STEAM Account in any way
 
STEAM RESPONDED with a email a day later with this statement:
 
Hello,

A staff member has replied to your question:

Hello Sherwood,

Thank you for contacting Steam Support.

This is not an authorized re-seller of Steam CD Keys.  Please do not complete any purchases with this vendor.

Only CD Keys included with retail copies or purchased from authorized retailers will be allowed.

Let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was sent by the Steam Support helpdesk.
post edited by sk2play - 2011/11/12 17:51:31

Corsair R500 Case, H110 Hydro, 1200AX PSU, Asus Maximus Hero VI MB, Intel 4770K CPU, Gigabyte GPU GV-N78TGHZ-3GD, G-Skill Trident 2400MHz 16GB, Crucial M500 960GB SSD, Seagate 2TB HDD x2, Creative SBz to Onkyo TX-DS676, Bose 201's, Klipsch Sub XW-300d, HP ZR30w 30" S-IPS LCD, W8.1
#1

65 Replies Related Threads

    Bowenac
    CLASSIFIED ULTRA Member
    • Total Posts : 5669
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/10/25 23:40:18
    • Location: Puget Sound WA State
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 17
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/10 17:11:42 (permalink)
    Could always make a separate account for int keys... If anything happens take it up with intkeys.com.
     
    Also I think this should be posted in General Discussion or Gaming section so more people see it.
    #2
    minger66
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1432
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/11/01 09:39:19
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/10 17:19:59 (permalink)
    This question seems to have been batted around quite a bit in the forums with nobody really knowing the answer.  Thanks for checking with Steam on this.  I think I would rather pay full price than take the chance.

    #1    I7 3930 @ 4.7 (1.375v), Corsair H100, Asus Sabertooth X79, GTX 780 SLI, 16gb GSkill Ripjaws 1866, Win 8.
    #2    I7 920 @ 4.0, Corsair H50 cooler, Asus P6X58D Premium MB, GTX 690, 6gb GSkill 1600 ram, Win 7 64 
    #3
    mrblond
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 896
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/09/10 15:01:28
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/10 17:47:02 (permalink)
    as far as I know, they dont use " steam " keys. they use retail keys that activate with steam. So if you were to buy a game, they should be getting a box, opening the box and scanning the key, then Emailing it to you.

    Asus RIVE
    Intel 3960x
    Corsair ax1200
    Coolmaster CosmosII
    Mushkin pc3 16 gigs
    corsair H100
    eVGA gtx 980 ti SLI
    Windows 7 64


    #4
    KILLEROZSNIPER
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 357
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/03/07 18:27:09
    • Location: Ontario, Canada
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/10 18:26:35 (permalink)
    mrblond

    as far as I know, they dont use " steam " keys. they use retail keys that activate with steam. So if you were to buy a game, they should be getting a box, opening the box and scanning the key, then Emailing it to you.

     
    I just have a question but would that make it any more legit? Because if it is a retail key that you activate with steam what is wrong with buying that?

    Rig Specs: 
    Corsair Vengeance C70
    Intel Core I7 920 at 4.1GHZ 
    6GB Corsair Dominator @1600mhz 
    Noctua NH-D14 CPU cooler 
    EVGA X58 SLI LE 
    MSI Radeon HD 7970       
    Hitatchi 1TB HDD 
    Antec  HCP 850 watt Gold   
    Acer 27" Monitor
    Corsair SP2500
    Corsair K90 Mechanical Keyboard
    Corsair M90 mouse
     
    #5
    robhall86
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2319
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/02/04 17:55:54
    • Location: Los Angeles
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 6
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/10 18:48:33 (permalink)
    KILLEROZSNIPER

    mrblond

    as far as I know, they dont use " steam " keys. they use retail keys that activate with steam. So if you were to buy a game, they should be getting a box, opening the box and scanning the key, then Emailing it to you.


    I just have a question but would that make it any more legit? Because if it is a retail key that you activate with steam what is wrong with buying that?

    the kicker is that he says not an authorized re-seller and only cd keys from authorized re-sellers will be allowed, so even if it's a legit key it could still be bad news for you.

    CM Cosmos 1000
    Evga X58 Classified 760 w/ i7 D0 @3.9ghz
    samsung ULV 1600 24gb @ 1870
    Evga GTX 470 SC+ @ 800/1600/1800          
    Caviar Black 640gb (Raid 0)
    Corsair AX1200               
    Xonar D2x + AD700/M50sLE

    #6
    mrblond
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 896
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/09/10 15:01:28
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/10 19:06:27 (permalink)
    I still dont think it matters. if I buy a extra key from you would that count? The only thing I can see is if the game is region locked and you go through a proxy to get it activated.

    Asus RIVE
    Intel 3960x
    Corsair ax1200
    Coolmaster CosmosII
    Mushkin pc3 16 gigs
    corsair H100
    eVGA gtx 980 ti SLI
    Windows 7 64


    #7
    robhall86
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2319
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/02/04 17:55:54
    • Location: Los Angeles
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 6
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/10 19:09:27 (permalink)
    if anyone ends up using them i would just go with the 2nd account idea to be safe, i have a 2nd one that i made in case i decided to buy anything from them.
     

    CM Cosmos 1000
    Evga X58 Classified 760 w/ i7 D0 @3.9ghz
    samsung ULV 1600 24gb @ 1870
    Evga GTX 470 SC+ @ 800/1600/1800          
    Caviar Black 640gb (Raid 0)
    Corsair AX1200               
    Xonar D2x + AD700/M50sLE

    #8
    sk2play
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4437
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/12 15:19:13
    • Location: Westminster, CO
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 8
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/10 22:26:53 (permalink)
    Even if you go with the second option to create another account, once you are busted by STEAM, you will lose all the games you purchased on intkeys.com.   Money down the drain.  They will know the keys and more than likely, they will know YOU due to the billing address on your Credit Cards. 
     
    Just go legit as STEAM says and be content with waiting for pricing schedules to go on sale.  I mean, if STEAM exhorts,  "This is not an authorized re-seller of Steam CD Keys.  Please do not complete any purchases with this vendor"  "Only CD Keys included with retail copies or purchased from authorized retailers will be allowedthen I will adhere to that directive myself.
     
    Especially if you figure this company has to go thru their VPN rigmarole to get the game from Russian to Region Free.  Or even from a Region Free code that still has to go through their VPN rigmarole to get it to work on STEAM.  I'm just not that desperate nor a risky gambler on the fringe of societal evolution.
    post edited by sk2play - 2011/11/10 22:43:53

    Corsair R500 Case, H110 Hydro, 1200AX PSU, Asus Maximus Hero VI MB, Intel 4770K CPU, Gigabyte GPU GV-N78TGHZ-3GD, G-Skill Trident 2400MHz 16GB, Crucial M500 960GB SSD, Seagate 2TB HDD x2, Creative SBz to Onkyo TX-DS676, Bose 201's, Klipsch Sub XW-300d, HP ZR30w 30" S-IPS LCD, W8.1
    #9
    ductron
    New Member
    • Total Posts : 35
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/10/06 14:28:33
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/11 06:56:24 (permalink)
    Seems like a lot of extra effort and financial risk to save a lousy $10 or so.
     
    .02
    #10
    st0n3r
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1292
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/10/13 22:06:03
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/11 10:33:02 (permalink)
    I dont see how steam can say its not legit. If that is the case than all the people selling games / codes on the market place are committing fraud as well because they are not authorized re-sellers correct? I mean the website is likely buying the full retail games at a cheap rate in Russia and reselling the keys. Same thing more or less thats done on the market place where people sell games. I think its just Steams way of saying they want you to purchase it from them and not somewhere else because they get $0 out of it.

    Asus P9X79Pro
    Intel Core I7 4930k
    G-Skill Ripjaws 16gb 1866mhz
    EVGA 690 GTX Classified x 2
    4x Mushkin Eco 3 480gb SSD's
    WD 2tb Hdd
    Custom Lian Li / Koolance Case
    EVGA 1300 G2 PSU
     
    My Affiliate Code: W50NH5B95M
    #11
    SirMaster
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2321
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/07/01 23:58:20
    • Location: Sussex, WI
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 21
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/11 10:42:02 (permalink)
    It is legit according to their response.
     
    "Only CD Keys included with retail copies..."
     
    Games purchased from intkeys are retail copies.  Intkeys buys physical retail copies in Russia where they are priced cheaper.
     
    Intkeys staff then personally scans the physical CD and box and sends you the images from the physical copy.  Then they throw the CD and box away because that license is now used.
     
    This is no different from your friend buying a physical copy from another cheaper store that isn't located near you and sending you the info.
     
    Most games sold on their website are region-free and do not require any form of VPN to activate.  The Box is the same as you would see in a Gamestop in the US.
    #12
    staypuft
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4013
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/03/11 14:04:03
    • Location: USA
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 31
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/11 11:22:32 (permalink)
    ductron

    Seems like a lot of extra effort and financial risk to save a lousy $10 or so.

    .02

    What I was thinking ^

    Interested in a discount on EVGA products?
    Click here for details and enter this Associates code at checkout >> 2ILPLQQ8IWY8DPN
     
    2021 Build: Gigabyte Z590 Ultra | Core i7-10700K | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR4-3200
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra | Samsung 970 EVO 500GB | Seasonic Focus GX-850 | Fractal Design Meshify C | Asus TUF VG27AQL1A
    #13
    blairnorman
    Superclocked Member
    • Total Posts : 202
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/03/16 01:25:10
    • Location: Raleigh, North Carolina, US
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/11 11:39:47 (permalink)
    SirMaster

    It is legit according to their response.

    "Only CD Keys included with retail copies..."

    Games purchased from intkeys are retail copies.  Intkeys buys physical retail copies in Russia where they are priced cheaper.

    Intkeys staff then personally scans the physical CD and box and sends you the images from the physical copy.  Then they throw the CD and box away because that license is now used.

    This is no different from your friend buying a physical copy from another cheaper store that isn't located near you and sending you the info.

    Most games sold on their website are region-free and do not require any form of VPN to activate.  The Box is the same as you would see in a Gamestop in the US.

    That is exactly right.... A key is either "region free" or its not, there is no "turning a key into region free".
     
     
    #14
    sk2play
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4437
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/12 15:19:13
    • Location: Westminster, CO
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 8
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/12 09:06:01 (permalink)
    SirMaster
    It is legit according to their response.

    "Only CD Keys included with retail copies..."

    Games purchased from intkeys are retail copies.  Intkeys buys physical retail copies in Russia where they are priced cheaper.

    Intkeys staff then personally scans the physical CD and box and sends you the images from the physical copy.  Then they throw the CD and box away because that license is now used.

    This is no different from your friend buying a physical copy from another cheaper store that isn't located near you and sending you the info.

     
    So you have convinced yourself because of what the 'site' states and not of what STEAM directs.  Go your own way SirMaster.
     
    SirMaster
    Most games sold on their website are region-free and do not require any form of VPN to activate.  The Box is the same as you would see in a Gamestop in the US.

     
    MW3
    STEAM KEY:
    This game works with STEAM system. You can activate the game using our key in steam client and then download the game from STEAM servers.
    VPN NEEDED:
    This is the Eastern European version of the game, activation has to be done with a VPN. You can ask us to make it for you, or do it yourself using the youtube guide:
     
    V Skyrim
    STEAM KEY:
    This game works with STEAM system. You can activate the game using our key in steam client and then download the game from STEAM servers.
     Important:
    This is the russian version of the product. The game is region free only after doing the next steps:
    STEPS:
    1) Login to your steam account.

    2) Run the Russian/Ukrainian VPN (Our VPN guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPMmBHZQQCc)

    3) Few moments after the vpn is on you will see the play option available.

    4) Click on play and your game will be decrypted.
    From this step your game is working without any need of VPN.

    5) From now on if you want to play the game please go to: c:/Program Files/steam/steamapps/common/skyrim/TESV

    You just need to double click on TESV and the game will launch with your normal IP.

    Each time you want to play you just need to double click on TESV to run the game.
     
    These games just got released and look at the rigmarole you have to go thru to get it activated all of which STEAM states is from a unauthorized retailer.  Do you seriously want to jeopardize your STEAM account?

     
    post edited by sk2play - 2011/11/12 09:11:20

    Corsair R500 Case, H110 Hydro, 1200AX PSU, Asus Maximus Hero VI MB, Intel 4770K CPU, Gigabyte GPU GV-N78TGHZ-3GD, G-Skill Trident 2400MHz 16GB, Crucial M500 960GB SSD, Seagate 2TB HDD x2, Creative SBz to Onkyo TX-DS676, Bose 201's, Klipsch Sub XW-300d, HP ZR30w 30" S-IPS LCD, W8.1
    #15
    mrblond
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 896
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2008/09/10 15:01:28
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/12 10:01:49 (permalink)
    if you buy a game that needs a VPN to activate, its not region free. I would say that if a game requires you to use a VPN, then your better off spending a bit more and just buying a US version of the game.

    Asus RIVE
    Intel 3960x
    Corsair ax1200
    Coolmaster CosmosII
    Mushkin pc3 16 gigs
    corsair H100
    eVGA gtx 980 ti SLI
    Windows 7 64


    #16
    SirMaster
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2321
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/07/01 23:58:20
    • Location: Sussex, WI
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 21
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/12 14:03:19 (permalink)


    #17
    SirMaster
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2321
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/07/01 23:58:20
    • Location: Sussex, WI
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 21
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/12 14:08:13 (permalink)
    Yeah, I wouldn't buy a region-locked game, but I've bought 6 off intkeys and non required a VPN to activate.  They tell you if it's region-free so you know before you buy it anyways.
     
    If steam did indeed say this:
    Only CD Keys included with retail copies or purchased from authorized retailers will be allowed.

    Then Intkeys would be considered allowed since it falls under the first case: "CD Keys included with retail copies".  Since Intkeys sells retail copies, they do not need to be authorized.
     
    Companies who only sell keys and not boxed retail copes need to be authorized, like Direct2Drive, etc.
    post edited by SirMaster - 2011/11/12 14:10:37
    #18
    sk2play
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4437
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/12 15:19:13
    • Location: Westminster, CO
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 8
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/12 14:39:05 (permalink)
    I personally have never used intkeys.com to purchase any game to date although I have been very tempted recently.  I even signed up for a account this past week.
     
      After STEAM gave me the Lo Lo on their directive concerning purchases on intkeys.com, I will refrain from doing any business with this company.  I think I will email Origin & Microsoft and get the established policy with them as well.  I am figuring both Microsoft Live and Origin will have similar responses.
     
    All these accounts I highly value and would not want to jeopardize them with reckless purchases from unauthorized retail sites.

    Corsair R500 Case, H110 Hydro, 1200AX PSU, Asus Maximus Hero VI MB, Intel 4770K CPU, Gigabyte GPU GV-N78TGHZ-3GD, G-Skill Trident 2400MHz 16GB, Crucial M500 960GB SSD, Seagate 2TB HDD x2, Creative SBz to Onkyo TX-DS676, Bose 201's, Klipsch Sub XW-300d, HP ZR30w 30" S-IPS LCD, W8.1
    #19
    sk2play
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4437
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/12 15:19:13
    • Location: Westminster, CO
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 8
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/12 16:20:06 (permalink)
    UPDATE on Origins Response VIA CHAT support
     
    you:
    If I buy Origin Games from this site below, am I breaking Origin’s Term of Service? http://www.intkeys.com/ Many of their keys are from Russia or Europe and converted via their VPN scheme to be region free and/or able to be validated on Origin. All this is legal according to the author of this site which has been up and running since 2008. TIA as I don't want to jeopardize my highly valued Origin Account in any way

    Brad:
    One moment while I research this for you, please.

    Brad:
    This operation would not be supported by Electronic Arts. I would not reccommend taking these steps to ensure warranty status and proper status handlings.

    Corsair R500 Case, H110 Hydro, 1200AX PSU, Asus Maximus Hero VI MB, Intel 4770K CPU, Gigabyte GPU GV-N78TGHZ-3GD, G-Skill Trident 2400MHz 16GB, Crucial M500 960GB SSD, Seagate 2TB HDD x2, Creative SBz to Onkyo TX-DS676, Bose 201's, Klipsch Sub XW-300d, HP ZR30w 30" S-IPS LCD, W8.1
    #20
    sk2play
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4437
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/12 15:19:13
    • Location: Westminster, CO
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 8
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/12 16:34:53 (permalink)
    Below is the complete script for those like me wanted to know every word that transpired and not just highlights.
     
    Your approximate wait time is 7 minute.
    Your approximate wait time is 6 minute.
    Your approximate wait time is 1 minute.
    You are now ready to chat with Brad.
    Brad:
    Thanks for contacting EA Help! My name is Brad how may I help you?
    you:
    you: If I buy Origin Games from this site below, am I breaking Origin’s Term of Service? http://www.intkeys.com/ Many of their keys are from Russia or Europe and converted via their VPN scheme to be region free and/or able to be validated on Origin. All this is legal according to the author of this site which has been up and running since 2008. TIA as I don't want to jeopardize my highly valued Origin Account in any way
    Brad:
    May I have your E-mail and date of birth, please?
    you:
    tinksmeoff@yahoo.com DOB Dec bla bla bla
    Brad:
    Thank you, one moment while I verify your account please.
    Brad:
    I have located your account, although the date of birth provided is incorrect.
    you:
    Please update my DOB to what I stated. I currently have BF3, Crysis 2 and Dragon Origins Ultimate Edition on my account
    Brad:
    I have to verify your account, before I can make any changes.
    Brad:
    May I have a product code from a game previously purchased; listed on the account, please?
    you:
    BF3 = blablabla
    Brad:
    Thank you, one moment while I verify your account please.
    Brad:
    I have verified your account, thank you.
    Brad:
    One moment while I update your information, please
    Brad:
    Thank you for your patience
    you:
    no prob
    Brad:
    .
    you:
    no problem ( no prob is a shortcut in english language)
    Brad:
    I'm English I understand, thank you.
    you:
    Coolio
    Brad:
    Thank you for your continued patience.
    Brad:
    I have updated your information
    Brad:
    How can I assist you further?
    you:
    If I buy Origin Games from this site below, am I breaking Origin’s Term of Service? http://www.intkeys.com/ Many of their keys are from Russia or Europe and converted via their VPN scheme to be region free and/or able to be validated on Origin. All this is legal according to the author of this site which has been up and running since 2008. TIA as I don't want to jeopardize my highly valued Origin Account in any way
    Brad:
    One moment while I research this for you, please.
    Brad:
    This operation would not be supported by Electronic Arts. I would not reccommend taking these steps to ensure warranty status and proper status handlings.
    you:
    Why? Because they are not a Authorized Retailer or the method they reach a Origin Key
    Brad:
    Both, we are not able to ensure these products will work properly and we cannot honor any kind of warranty if the retailer is not authorized.
    you:
    So intkeys.com is not authroized then, correct?
    Brad:
    No, this is an online database. Most likely a collection of personal sales.
    you:
    intkeys give a
    Brad:
    Due to the lack of productivity I will be ending this chat. Is there anything else I can assist you with today?
    you:
    You are very helpful, thank you very much. What does online database means to you? I am confused by the word (term)?
    Brad:
    A website a lot of people use, would be the best description.
    Brad:
    Thank you for contacting Electronic Arts. Have a great day.
    you:
    Thanks Brad, you're awesome
    Brad:
    Thank you
    post edited by sk2play - 2011/11/12 16:38:41

    Corsair R500 Case, H110 Hydro, 1200AX PSU, Asus Maximus Hero VI MB, Intel 4770K CPU, Gigabyte GPU GV-N78TGHZ-3GD, G-Skill Trident 2400MHz 16GB, Crucial M500 960GB SSD, Seagate 2TB HDD x2, Creative SBz to Onkyo TX-DS676, Bose 201's, Klipsch Sub XW-300d, HP ZR30w 30" S-IPS LCD, W8.1
    #21
    SirMaster
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2321
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/07/01 23:58:20
    • Location: Sussex, WI
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 21
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/12 23:24:52 (permalink)
    So Intkeys is allowed and not against TOS or anything for Origin, but they just can't give you support or a warranty (whatever that means for a videogame)  Or ensure that the game will work properly.
    #22
    sk2play
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4437
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/12 15:19:13
    • Location: Westminster, CO
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 8
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/13 08:15:40 (permalink)
    you:
    Why? Because they are not a Authorized Retailer or the method they reach a Origin Key
    Brad:
    Both, we are not able to ensure these products will work properly and we cannot honor any kind of warranty if the retailer is not authorized.
    you:
    So intkeys.com is not authroized then, correct?
    Brad:
    No, this is an online database. Most likely a collection of personal sales.

    post edited by sk2play - 2011/11/13 08:19:14

    Corsair R500 Case, H110 Hydro, 1200AX PSU, Asus Maximus Hero VI MB, Intel 4770K CPU, Gigabyte GPU GV-N78TGHZ-3GD, G-Skill Trident 2400MHz 16GB, Crucial M500 960GB SSD, Seagate 2TB HDD x2, Creative SBz to Onkyo TX-DS676, Bose 201's, Klipsch Sub XW-300d, HP ZR30w 30" S-IPS LCD, W8.1
    #23
    KILLEROZSNIPER
    iCX Member
    • Total Posts : 357
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/03/07 18:27:09
    • Location: Ontario, Canada
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/13 08:25:18 (permalink)
    I must thank you  a lot sk2play
    you cleared up many questions I had about all these CD key sellers

    Rig Specs: 
    Corsair Vengeance C70
    Intel Core I7 920 at 4.1GHZ 
    6GB Corsair Dominator @1600mhz 
    Noctua NH-D14 CPU cooler 
    EVGA X58 SLI LE 
    MSI Radeon HD 7970       
    Hitatchi 1TB HDD 
    Antec  HCP 850 watt Gold   
    Acer 27" Monitor
    Corsair SP2500
    Corsair K90 Mechanical Keyboard
    Corsair M90 mouse
     
    #24
    sk2play
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4437
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/12 15:19:13
    • Location: Westminster, CO
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 8
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/13 08:29:14 (permalink)
    I find it ironic that intkeys.com states it purchased the games from 'major distributors' but both Steam and Origin state they are not a 'authorized retailer'
     
    Anybody knows if you are a buyer from a 'major distributor/publisher' then you are always a legit retailer.  So something is amiss there
    post edited by sk2play - 2011/11/13 08:35:14

    Corsair R500 Case, H110 Hydro, 1200AX PSU, Asus Maximus Hero VI MB, Intel 4770K CPU, Gigabyte GPU GV-N78TGHZ-3GD, G-Skill Trident 2400MHz 16GB, Crucial M500 960GB SSD, Seagate 2TB HDD x2, Creative SBz to Onkyo TX-DS676, Bose 201's, Klipsch Sub XW-300d, HP ZR30w 30" S-IPS LCD, W8.1
    #25
    SirMaster
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2321
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/07/01 23:58:20
    • Location: Sussex, WI
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 21
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/13 18:24:29 (permalink)
    sk2play

    I find it ironic that intkeys.com states it purchased the games from 'major distributors' but both Steam and Origin state they are not a 'authorized retailer'

    Anybody knows if you are a buyer from a 'major distributor/publisher' then you are always a legit retailer.  So something is amiss there

     
    That isn't true at all.
     
    If I bought a bunch of games from Best Buy and re-sold them myself online I would not be considered an authorized retailer.  This is exactly what intkeys is doing.  Best Buy is a pretty major distributor.
     
    But in that email you posted from Steam , they admitted that as long as the keys are retail keys then the seller doesn't have to be authorized in any way.  So I still don't see the problem.
     
    If you are OK not having a "warranty" or guaranteed support then go ahead and buy from intkeys.  I don't think I have ever need any warranty or support for any video game iv'e ever bought.  It's a good deal for those who don't need those things.
    post edited by SirMaster - 2011/11/13 18:26:32
    #26
    sk2play
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4437
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/12 15:19:13
    • Location: Westminster, CO
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 8
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/13 19:08:13 (permalink)
    I have bought eBayer's codes, all legit from vidieo card sales and all work on STEAM legally.  I know where you are coming from SirMaster. 
     
    These RUSSIAN CD KEY sites all have a high tech Mafia sense (common sense) to them.
     
    Any mathematician can create a KEY GEN and give you a STEAM/ORIGIN/MICROSOFT LIVE KEY and photo shop the retail box
     
    Your STEAM, ORIGIN and MICROSOFT LIVE account will be jeopardized
     
    Don't ignore your common sense.  I contacted both STEAM and ORIGIN on their legality.  Don't defy common sense SirMaster at this level.  BE RESPONSIBLE to those that adore your opinion
    post edited by sk2play - 2011/11/13 19:42:19

    Corsair R500 Case, H110 Hydro, 1200AX PSU, Asus Maximus Hero VI MB, Intel 4770K CPU, Gigabyte GPU GV-N78TGHZ-3GD, G-Skill Trident 2400MHz 16GB, Crucial M500 960GB SSD, Seagate 2TB HDD x2, Creative SBz to Onkyo TX-DS676, Bose 201's, Klipsch Sub XW-300d, HP ZR30w 30" S-IPS LCD, W8.1
    #27
    SirMaster
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 2321
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2006/07/01 23:58:20
    • Location: Sussex, WI
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 21
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/13 22:11:57 (permalink)
    I understand what you are saying too and some people just want to be careful.  I get it.
     
    About the keygen thing though.  That isn't possible.  What is possible is creating a keygen that would allow you to install a video game.  But it would not be possible to make a keygen that would allow you to activate or play online.
     
    The reason is that when you play online, the server checks your key against a list of all keys that were ever sold, not against an algorithm to see if it passes.
     
    For installing a game however, the installer simply checks your key against an algorithm to see if it passes, because otherwise that would require you to have an internet connection to install the game for it to check against the master server (though this is now becoming normal to activate games before you can even pay singleplayer).  It is very possible to make a keygen to pass the algorithm.
     
    But for a key to work online, it would have to both pass the algorithm, and be a key they the company knows they generated and put in a box or sold.  For any said game there are billions of possible keys and perhaps more, but there are only several million keys ever generated and sold.
     
    It is theoretically possible for a keygen that makes keys that pass the algorithm work online and match one sold that's still on the shelves on a box unused, but it would be extremely, extremely unlikely.  Once in a hundred years kind of unlikely.
    #28
    rblaes_99
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1951
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/02/17 06:25:20
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 15
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/13 22:26:31 (permalink)
    let me just weigh in with one quick point.  I am interested in seeing how these russian steam key sites are going to play out over the next year or so.
     
    ABout four years ago I bought a retail box copy of the Orange Box (TF2) while in thailand cheap and it activated on my steam account just fine.
     
    About 6 months later steam deactivated the games and it made it impossible for me to remove it from my client. 
     
    When I called tech support they said they could either remove it, or I could only play it while I was in Thailand.  link below with the history on this.
    http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2007/10/valve-locking-out-user-accounts-for-incorrect-territory.ars
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orange_Box
     
    In the end, i believe steam will catch on and will start deactivating games.  They did this to me with a game I bought, hard copy, in an authorized reseller, while traveling overseas.  I had the box and reciept and provided them scanned copies of both, and even offered to show my orders and they wouldn't hear it.
     
    My problem is that I am American, military, and travel all over.  I use a legit VPN to pull a US IP address to play games I actually purchased all the time. 
     
    I am tempted by the inkeys prices but I think this will end up costing more in the long run unfortunately.
     
     
    post edited by rblaes_99 - 2011/11/13 22:32:37


    #29
    =DCM=Fionn
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 659
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/12/29 16:35:57
    • Location: Cork, Ireland
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re:Steam's Policy for intkeys.com 2011/11/14 02:01:51 (permalink)
    Steam would say that. They obviously want to make the costumer scared so they will keep paying full price to buy directly from them.
     
    I could find over 10 more site that offer the same service and I bet they will be even cheaper then what intkeys.com sell them for and 99% of them are legit just look for reviews and their Facebook pages that have 1000's of likes.
     
    i can vouch for cdkeyhouse.com and buygamecdkeys.com just make sure you pay by Paypal so if anything does go wrong you can make a claim.
     
    Finally, I recommend checking out www.dlcompare.com to get the lowest price on the game that your looking for.

    First time I played Skyrim I followed a rabbit into a woddy area on a snowy mountain and punched the poor thing to death and got lost.

    #30
    Page: 123 > Showing page 1 of 3
    Jump to:
  • Back to Mobile