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There are several threads running around on various areas of the EVGA forums saying that the new drivers 196.21 do not work with EVGA Precision or other third party overclocking apps. We are aware of this and we ask that everyone be patient for a while or go back to an older driver for a short time.
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 10:08:07
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 Gr8 job Nvidia >.>
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 12:46:41
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Really smooth nV...yet another reason to switch to ATi
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 13:23:30
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Remember everyone that sometimes change brings about a better product. Please be patient for a little while.
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 13:31:45
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I'm glad to see EVGA is on the case working on a fix. I'm not going to sweat it. I'll just keep an eye on this thread for the good word.
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 13:37:19
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Latest Update from Unwinder "I've just peeked into issue a bit deeper. The driver uses different domain IDs when reporting and when setting new clocks so it sounds like a bug in the driver and not an intentional overclocking interface evolution. Bugreport is filled and sent to NVIDIA." http://forums.guru3d.com/...?p=3427815#post3427815
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 15:03:45
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What's the latest Precision version that will work with the 196.21 drivers? EDIT: Nevermind - didn't read the first post correctly. 
post edited by rambler358 - 2010/01/19 15:08:22
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 15:42:23
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The only good thing bout the new driver is the SLI support for Dirt 2, other than that my Vantage score went down again... Oh Nvidia... are you ever gonna get it right or should i just go with ATI???
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 15:43:25
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Nice to be able to get an answer to a question. Patience young Padawan.....  Cheers!
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 15:51:45
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Glad I like to wait on updating.... :p
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 19:18:52
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does anyone of you have problem during the installation? Because It crashed twice during the installation. First, It showed black screen --> I had to reboot my computer. Second, It froze during the installation--> The process bar kept staying at the same spot--> I had to reboot my computer. I have 2 gtx 285 and Win. 7 64 bit and the driver I downloaded is for the windows 7 64 bit.
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 20:24:36
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It takes a couple of minutes,be patient.  If it takes 1/2 an hour then you have a problem
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/19 20:37:08
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yeh I got the problem solved however, I have a new problem. BSOD
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/20 00:34:00
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I need this driver for StarTrek Online to work and I need to underclock to keep my card working. I found that using the Nvidia performance panel it is possible to apply saved clock profiles despite the fact the current clock screen is wonky.
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/20 04:13:05
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i really dont need to overclock cuz all games run maxed with me!
but who doesnt like to play with GPU's ;)
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/20 05:09:12
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i really dont need to overclock cuz all games run maxed with me!
but who doesnt like to play with GPU's ;)
most my games run maxed too on just a single GTX 260 lol, so I don't overclock either. I'm gonna eventually have another GTX 260 for SLI to help anyway for future game titles.
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/20 08:19:45
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Wonder if this has anything to do with the change in clock domains coming with GF100? Maybe Nvidia pulled the trigger early and started making some of their changes. Anyways, sounds like Unwinder and EVGA already have a strong lead on a fix, thanks again for the great support of a great utility. 
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/20 09:18:56
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I was just loving these drivers..... every single game i've tried works very well...
i dont use precision tool for overclocking, i use Nvidia System Tools.... and not even their own software works !
Nvidia fixes something and messes something else up.... GreaT! Thanks Nvidia!
as for now im gonna stay with these drivers even though i cant overlock... atleast my games run okay. not like 195.62!
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/20 19:50:48
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I will wait N-vidia always come tru.
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/20 21:55:35
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Unwinder sent the new code for both Precision and Afterburner to respective companies. AB 1.5.0 Beta 5 is up already and I think we should see the Precision update very soon...
It's a temporary workaround till Nvidia corrects the bug...
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/21 00:00:44
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I think I've found a bug also that will let you overclock on them
If you install these over another set without uninstalling and using driver sweeper then you should be able to overclock on these new drivers
It's what I did and I'm able to overclock on both my cards and they're holding steadily while folding
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/21 00:22:00
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I think I've found a bug also that will let you overclock on them
If you install these over another set without uninstalling and using driver sweeper then you should be able to overclock on these new drivers
It's what I did and I'm able to overclock on both my cards and they're holding steadily while folding
That didn't work for me.
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/21 00:29:54
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kscott190
I think I've found a bug also that will let you overclock on them
If you install these over another set without uninstalling and using driver sweeper then you should be able to overclock on these new drivers
It's what I did and I'm able to overclock on both my cards and they're holding steadily while folding
That didn't work for me.
What did you do? Uninstall all the drivers on your system use driver sweeper then install the 195.81 and then the 196.21 over them and see if that works It's what i did and now I'm able to overclock
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/21 00:38:01
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I think I've found a bug also that will let you overclock on them
If you install these over another set without uninstalling and using driver sweeper then you should be able to overclock on these new drivers
It's what I did and I'm able to overclock on both my cards and they're holding steadily while folding
That didn't work for me.
What did you do?
Uninstall all the drivers on your system use driver sweeper then install the 195.81 and then the 196.21 over them and see if that works
It's what i did and now I'm able to overclock
I did a straight install right over the 195.81 and the ability to OC was gone. I wouldn't have replied if I'd done something different from what you described. Using the usual driver install method doesn't work either. I supplied Unwinder with the debug info and he identified what was changed in the driver. So unless unless in your case 196.21 were not installed correctly, you should not have OC control.
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/21 03:50:01
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kscott190
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kscott190
I think I've found a bug also that will let you overclock on them
If you install these over another set without uninstalling and using driver sweeper then you should be able to overclock on these new drivers
It's what I did and I'm able to overclock on both my cards and they're holding steadily while folding
That didn't work for me.
What did you do?
Uninstall all the drivers on your system use driver sweeper then install the 195.81 and then the 196.21 over them and see if that works
It's what i did and now I'm able to overclock
I did a straight install right over the 195.81 and the ability to OC was gone. I wouldn't have replied if I'd done something different from what you described. Using the usual driver install method doesn't work either. I supplied Unwinder with the debug info and he identified what was changed in the driver. So unless unless in your case 196.21 were not installed correctly, you should not have OC control.
They're install correctly because I'm able to use SLI in Dirt 2
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/21 06:25:53
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i think ther is something poeple are forgeting, nvidia doesnt make drivers around evga percision , evga percision get writen around nvidia drivers . so in my opinion they should be working on the latest evga percision, and will there at it maybe they could give logitech g13 support
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/21 07:03:47
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i think ther is something poeple are forgeting, nvidia doesnt make drivers around evga percision , evga percision get writen around nvidia drivers . so in my opinion they should be working on the latest evga percision, and will there at it maybe they could give logitech g13 support
It is known, however Unwinder, the developer behind Precision and Afterburner, found a "bug" where this driver messes up in domain (device?) ID management. So, it's not because they changed something and the apps couldn't handle: there is a "bug"...
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/21 07:27:27
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brookes-55
i think ther is something poeple are forgeting, nvidia doesnt make drivers around evga percision , evga percision get writen around nvidia drivers . so in my opinion they should be working on the latest evga percision, and will there at it maybe they could give logitech g13 support
However, NVIDIA make their own NVIDIA System Tools (formely known as nTune), which also completely lost clock control. So like it or dislike it, but it is indeed ForceWare's own issue (easily fixable though). And yes, while there is no fix from NVIDIA side yet we can update the Precision and force it to use the same bugged domain IDs like the driver is expecting when 196.21 is detected. So the overclocking will work.
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/21 09:03:45
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So, it's not because they changed something and the apps couldn't handle: there is a "bug"...
Well, yes and no. It sounds like NVidia did change something and the apps can't handle it, but that *is* the bug.
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Re:NVIDIA 196.21 WHQL overclocking app support
2010/01/21 09:20:40
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Correct! i use ntune to oc my cards and thats completely unusable now...
i would say this is more of an NVIDIA bug.
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