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New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:51 AM (permalink)
I just got into the game and am having huge screenlag. I don't know what it is. Even after changing the settings to Low I am getting awful performance. I should not be getting lag spikes at low with a GTX295. So weird, Fallout 3 ran fine at Ultra High settings, strange that the new game doesn't run worth a crap.
 
Anyone else have a similar experience?
 
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Drag and drop the file to /steamapps/common/fallout new vegas (Same location as falloutNV.exe)
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    Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:04 AM (permalink)
    Im getting Pretty Bad frames on ultra on my 460gtx though i was maxing F3. Let me mess with the settings a bit and ill get to you.
     
     
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    Pretty Much even with the lowest settings Im getting low frames outside in the game alot microstutter and such. Bah this is disappointing.
     
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      Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:23 AM (permalink)
      Do you both have the latest drivers? 260.89 just released and this is one of the games listed on it.
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        Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:32 AM (permalink)
        New game, lots of bugs, and optimization still to be done...it prob just not only you but other ppl aswell.

         
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          Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:32 AM (permalink)
          Nah I dont have the latest drivers. But reading among other forums it seems to be an Nvidia Issue. Ill try updating the drivers to see if they work. Itll be tomorrow though its a tad late atm.

           
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            Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:18 AM (permalink)
            Playing it with the latest beta drivers no issues, only gripe would be when stuff loads in when your running. Other than that awesome game. Sky does not even flicker like it does on FO3 with sli.
             
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              Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:38 AM (permalink)
              Well I just looked around online and people are describing the exact same issues I am having. Seems a few people got the game to run smoothly with the newest nvidia beta drivers.
               
              Here's to hope it works, ill post back for anyone following the thread.

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                Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:59 AM (permalink)
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                Playing it with the latest beta drivers no issues, only gripe would be when stuff loads in when your running. Other than that awesome game. Sky does not even flicker like it does on FO3 with sli.

                 
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                  Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:11 AM (permalink)
                  Just played a little with the 260.93 drivers, the lag is gone mostly. I still can't play at Ultra and have about 30 FPS on High settings... Don't know what else I can do, but atleast it's playable. I also got the old HDR flicker bug that I had in FO3... So I'll probably have to turn off HDR.

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                    Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:52 AM (permalink)
                    It doesnt surprise me, Bethesda has always had the problem of buggy games at launch.
                     
                     
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                      Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:31 AM (permalink)
                      Wow, after a bit longer playing I can safely say that I am not going to play any longer until they fix this garbage.
                       
                      I started to get more studder, so I set it to medium settings, AA and AF off and still at certain points I dip to 10fps...
                       
                      Obviously they just ported this game over straight from the consoles and didn't even bother testing it. Good job Bethesda. Someone really needs to make a stand against this porting practice, its complete bull sh*t.

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                        Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:47 PM (permalink)
                        Oh I found one more tiny little thing I dont like the radio stations I hate most of the western music... FO3 might have had fewer songs but as a whole it had better radio songs playing. 
                         
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                          Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:33 PM (permalink)
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                          Oh I found one more tiny little thing I dont like the radio stations I hate most of the western music... FO3 might have had fewer songs but as a whole it had better radio songs playing. 

                          i love the new music
                           
                          i have the stutter as well but im really enjoying the game so far.
                           
                           
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                            Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:37 PM (permalink)
                            Try this:
                             
                            Simply force AA and AF in CCC ( or Nvidia's whatchamacallit ) and turn off the in game AA and AF.

                            Before doing above I was getting lousy frame rates...considering my rigs horsepower. 20 to 60 fps...yechh !

                            Now it never budges from 60 fps...

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                            4AA ( CCC forced )
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                            This also helps with the momentary hiccups ....

                            Game still kinda buggy..quests, inventory etc..but now it runs a lot better.
                             
                            Credit goes to this thread: http://forums.bethsoft.co...formance-increase-tip/
                             
                            It really helped me, you should give a try!
                             
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                              Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:54 PM (permalink)
                              I can't even select 5760X1200 as a resolution, it just does not show up. Getting tired of this crap. Might as well start getting games on console.


                               
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                                Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:03 PM (permalink)
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                                Try this:

                                Simply force AA and AF in CCC ( or Nvidia's whatchamacallit ) and turn off the in game AA and AF.

                                Before doing above I was getting lousy frame rates...considering my rigs horsepower. 20 to 60 fps...yechh !

                                Now it never budges from 60 fps...

                                19x12
                                4AA ( CCC forced )
                                16AF ( CCC forced )
                                V-sync on
                                All options maxed...

                                This also helps with the momentary hiccups ....

                                Game still kinda buggy..quests, inventory etc..but now it runs a lot better.

                                Credit goes to this thread: http://forums.bethsoft.co...formance-increase-tip/

                                It really helped me, you should give a try!

                                Cheers


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                                  Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:39 PM (permalink)
                                  well I just tried Fallout New Vegas and it seems to run great for me, I just made it past the tutorial and I'm outside now, when looking around I'm getting 40 - 60fps in most areas, some parts dip into the 20's. Running at 1920x1080, 4X AA, Ultra Detail, everything maxed which is about the same performance I had in Fallout 3. I do get a small bit of stutter here and thier but not really that bad. It definately feels like Fallout 3 all over again.
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                                    Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:43 PM (permalink)
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                                    Try this:

                                    Simply force AA and AF in CCC ( or Nvidia's whatchamacallit ) and turn off the in game AA and AF.

                                    Before doing above I was getting lousy frame rates...considering my rigs horsepower. 20 to 60 fps...yechh !

                                    Now it never budges from 60 fps...

                                    19x12
                                    4AA ( CCC forced )
                                    16AF ( CCC forced )
                                    V-sync on
                                    All options maxed...

                                    This also helps with the momentary hiccups ....

                                    Game still kinda buggy..quests, inventory etc..but now it runs a lot better.

                                    Credit goes to this thread: http://forums.bethsoft.co...formance-increase-tip/

                                    It really helped me, you should give a try!

                                    Cheers


                                    I don't notice any difference, I am still playing on Medium. Hope they fix this. This is extremely annoying.

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                                      Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:57 PM (permalink)
                                      Plays great for me.


                                       
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                                        Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:25 PM (permalink)
                                        ok I guess I spoke too soon =/ anyone else notice when in areas with many human NPC's you get a massive framerate drop? It was never this bad on Fallout 3...
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                                          Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:26 AM (permalink)
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                                          ok I guess I spoke too soon =/ anyone else notice when in areas with many human NPC's you get a massive framerate drop? It was never this bad on Fallout 3...


                                          I never had any framerate drops in FO3... New Vegas is awful tho.

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                                            Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:06 AM (permalink)
                                            Hey guys, I read this on another post on the 400 series forums. Make sure that in the Nvidia control panal under "Manage 3D settings" that you have your power management setting set to max. Its simple but it can significantly increase your framerate, if your problem is low framerate. I was getting around 8fps in scenes with many characters and about 25fps on average. After changing the settings I got about 45fps on average and 15fps with lots of characters. Still kinda low but its an improvement.
                                             
                                            Other than that I guess we just have to wait for an update to roll out, either it being a graphics driver update or an actual game update...whenever that happens 

                                             
                                             
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                                              Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:25 AM (permalink)
                                              I have not picked this one up yet. Still working on Fallout 3, but had stutter issues that improved after the 260.89 WHQL. Also if this game is using the same engine it might be worth it to double the audio cache in the games ini file. That helped me immensely...
                                               
                                               
                                               

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                                                Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:56 AM (permalink)
                                                dwoodward


                                                Julien_FX


                                                Try this:

                                                Simply force AA and AF in CCC ( or Nvidia's whatchamacallit ) and turn off the in game AA and AF.

                                                Before doing above I was getting lousy frame rates...considering my rigs horsepower. 20 to 60 fps...yechh !

                                                Now it never budges from 60 fps...

                                                19x12
                                                4AA ( CCC forced )
                                                16AF ( CCC forced )
                                                V-sync on
                                                All options maxed...

                                                This also helps with the momentary hiccups ....

                                                Game still kinda buggy..quests, inventory etc..but now it runs a lot better.

                                                Credit goes to this thread: http://forums.bethsoft.co...formance-increase-tip/

                                                It really helped me, you should give a try!

                                                Cheers


                                                I don't notice any difference, I am still playing on Medium. Hope they fix this. This is extremely annoying.


                                                I found something else to try Download d3d9.dll and drag/drop in to your Fallout New Vegas folder. (/steamapps/common/fallout new vegas (Same location as falloutNV.exe))
                                                 
                                                It helped a bunch of people for the NPC slowdown here: http://forums.bethsoft.co...ear-npcs/page__st__140
                                                 
                                                It is supposed to fix the low GPU utilization and the lag when multiple NPC are on the screen.
                                                 
                                                EDIT: fixed link
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                                                  Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Wednesday, October 20, 2010 8:17 AM (permalink)
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                                                  dwoodward


                                                  Julien_FX


                                                  Try this:

                                                  Simply force AA and AF in CCC ( or Nvidia's whatchamacallit ) and turn off the in game AA and AF.

                                                  Before doing above I was getting lousy frame rates...considering my rigs horsepower. 20 to 60 fps...yechh !

                                                  Now it never budges from 60 fps...

                                                  19x12
                                                  4AA ( CCC forced )
                                                  16AF ( CCC forced )
                                                  V-sync on
                                                  All options maxed...

                                                  This also helps with the momentary hiccups ....

                                                  Game still kinda buggy..quests, inventory etc..but now it runs a lot better.

                                                  Credit goes to this thread: http://forums.bethsoft.co...formance-increase-tip/

                                                  It really helped me, you should give a try!

                                                  Cheers


                                                  I don't notice any difference, I am still playing on Medium. Hope they fix this. This is extremely annoying.


                                                  I found something else to try Download d3d9.dll and drag/drop in to your Fallout New Vegas folder. (/steamapps/common/fallout new vegas (Same location as falloutNV.exe))

                                                  It helped a bunch of people for the NPC slowdown here: http://forums.bethsoft.co...ear-npcs/page__st__140

                                                  It is supposed to fix the low GPU utilization and the lag when multiple NPC are on the screen.

                                                  EDIT: fixed link


                                                  thanks for this fix!!! I had that same issue with the NPC's and will try it later.
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                                                    Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:21 AM (permalink)
                                                    I have just tested it, and I can confirmed it worked for me! Lag free!
                                                     
                                                    I would like to mention that after copying the file to the game directory, the next time you will start the game, it should auto-detect the hardware again and set everything to medium. I did set it to high and my resolution back to 1920x1080 (it got reset) and the game run so much better!
                                                     
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                                                      Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:58 AM (permalink)
                                                      The white blips that pop up out of nowhere are um interesting...
                                                      For somebody like me who gets ready to shoot at anything that moves, it's quite distracting.
                                                      Devs should be working out a patch before thinking about an XBox-exclusive DLC.
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                                                        Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:27 AM (permalink)
                                                        No issues here with my GTX470 with everything maxed @ 1920x1080. I am on the 258.96 drivers.
                                                         
                                                        I've been running consistently at 60fps, with the rare drop to 50 or so. The GPU usage never seems to go above 60%-70% (even during an FPS drop), and CPU usage is much the same. Going to try that download and see if my GPU utilization goes up.


                                                         
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                                                          hellsteel

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                                                          Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:59 AM (permalink)
                                                          Running perfectly fine on my gtx 470 @ ultra , i have got fps drops but nothing to effect my gameplay.
                                                           
                                                          This is a new game and it needs a patches, it will fix the lag you have, and the glitched/crashes soon i hope aswell.  (and the damn white thingies!)
                                                           
                                                          Edit: I am assuming its because its a dual gpu card. I hope they release a fix soon for you.
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                                                            Re:New Vegas - Terrible Performance Wednesday, October 20, 2010 12:54 PM (permalink)

                                                            PERFORMANCE TWEAK!!!

                                                            First download the dx9.dll from the following link

                                                            http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6LHPT9ZC

                                                            Has been virus scanned!

                                                            Copy the DX9.DLL file into your root Fallout 3 vegas directory , run the launcher it will detect new hardware 7800gs. Go into your options and wack everything back up to what you had it before. Ultra in my case! ( Don't touch the hardware type , leave it as 7800GS )

                                                            Run the game , apparantly this has fixed many peoples frame rate problems and stutter problems. From further research it seems there is a bug between the game and DX10/11 cards and directx.

                                                            If you notice no difference , just delete the file!..

                                                            Frame rates have shot up for me with no difference in quality

                                                             
                                                            I did the steps out lined above and it all stuttering has  disappeared. Maybe it will work for you.
                                                            Specs:
                                                            i7 930 @ 3.6
                                                            Patriot Inferno 60gb SSD
                                                            Spinpoint F3 1tb HDD
                                                            ASUS SaberTooth X58
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                                                            ANTEC 750 WATT PSU
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