I said murder suicide. I can't think of an instance where it didn't involve a weapon and in most instances in the US it invovled a gun. In those instances a minimum of 2 people died, the amount of others injured varies upon factors like where it occurs. I personally know someone who survived such an incident when they were a child losing a sibling and their mother and father in the process. Gun laws (or lack there of) are irrellevant in many situations.
All of you folks are assuming that you will be automatically landing shots through very poor conditions causing something other than attention being drawn towards yourself. Cowering or not, using others as a shield or not, you are still counting on them being your distracting element allowing you to take a shot and hoping it will be the one that drops him down.
You would have better odds with a propelled explosive device...
In short, you are discounting the situation in favor of simply pushing your position, which is sad really.
Considering hiring armed guards are not a option and having military/cops everywhere is not a option than our only option is to defend yourself.
Also do you really just say most murders involve a weapons? I hope that was a joke, of course they involve a weapon, IT is kind of hard to kill someone with your bare hands and even harder if there are other people because someone is going to step in and stop it... People tend to step in to stop a killing if they believe they can stop it or save a life.
What could someone have done to prevent this or stop it as it was happening? Who is to blame for him going postal? You can ask yourself these questions all day and everybody will have a different anwser and a different opinion on it. The problem here is not guns, The problem here is that a guy went postal and no one tired or was able to stop him.
In the end it all falls on the people and how they are able to react and defend themselves.
Also you really should take a look at the factors of most murders, almost half of the killers or friends or family of the one killed if you want to bring those statistics into this. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...entional_homicide_rate
We rank 4.8 murder of 100000 people? And our murder rate has gone down over the years, So that just shows we are killing each other less.
The most used weapon in the UK is knives, They tend to stab each other.
The whole point of my argument is that we need to be able to defend our self, or stuff like this is just going to happen more. And a "gun free zone" means nothing to the bad guy, in fact it just shows that they will have less chance of someone fighting back.