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Cliffs over dover Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:05 AM (permalink)
is this game worth getting yet? i read another patch had come out july 2012. i'm still doing il2 up3.
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    Re:Cliffs over dover Friday, August 03, 2012 2:08 PM (permalink)
    still looking for Il2 pilots, up3 modded.
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      Re:Cliffs over dover Friday, August 03, 2012 2:10 PM (permalink)
      I have the game and a Thrustmaster Warthog and Saitek pedals. I've not put anytime into the game yet though.
       
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        Re:Cliffs over dover Friday, August 03, 2012 2:46 PM (permalink)
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        I have the game and a Thrustmaster Warthog and Saitek pedals. I've not put anytime into the game yet though.

        He didn't ask did you have the game, or accessories. I believe he asked is it worth getting.


         
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          Re:Cliffs over dover Friday, August 03, 2012 3:02 PM (permalink)
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          Brad_Hawthorne


          I have the game and a Thrustmaster Warthog and Saitek pedals. I've not put anytime into the game yet though.

          He didn't ask did you have the game, or accessories. I believe he asked is it worth getting.

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          still looking for Il2 pilots, up3 modded. 
           

           
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            Re:Cliffs over dover Friday, August 03, 2012 4:13 PM (permalink)
            well its a cover all question. although IL2 is older,  its still a better game, but the community is small and shrinking.  CoD was suppose to be the next big thing but hasnt evolved yet.  BoM (battle over moscow) is on the horizon.  i just wanna see if  players wanna try flying in a social arena where IMO, its more fun and challenging.
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              Re:Cliffs over dover Friday, August 03, 2012 11:56 PM (permalink)
              You happen to know if I can use Saitek pedals with Thrustmaster Warthog with the game? Some games don't like to mix different stick with pedals. Might be interesting to play IL2 if I knew others would fly.
               
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                Re:Cliffs over dover Saturday, August 04, 2012 10:53 AM (permalink)
                should work no problem, u have track ir?  let me   know when u wanna fly.
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                  Re:Cliffs over dover Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:02 PM (permalink)
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                  should work no problem, u have track ir?  let me   know when u wanna fly.

                  I'm actually using this instead of TrackIR with my regular webcam.  Doesn't work as well, of course, but it's pretty close - and any head tracking is MASSIVE orders of magnitude better than trying to be competitive using just the joystick hat for looking around.
                   
                  As to the games...well, I've certainly put a lot of time in IL-2.  I actually played the series from the very first game, through all the expansions, and still managed to put several hundreds hours into IL-2:1946, alone (only have definite numbers on that one, because that's the first one that - between XFire and Steam - I have tracking of my play time on).
                   
                  But I'm not playing it that much, anymore.  The mod scene just got too confusing - needing to run different patches, different versions of UltraPak, different other mods, etc...for each and every server.  End result is that you could get your install at best set up to run on maybe one or two MP servers, and that was it.  And just TRY complaining about that on any of the 'official' forums...they'll tear you apart complaining about "only kiddies play MP" or "who wants to play Air Quake?  I have no idea why they even included MP in the game" or "It's only single-player that matters" and such.  So basically,  between the mess of mods, lame community, and general weariness at the tremendously dated graphics...I just kind of lost interest.  What flying I do in IL-2 at the moment is pretty much just with my office mates.
                   
                  Now, 'Cliffs of Dover' definitely has more promise.  Somewhat more locked down engine, so if you can find an MP game...you can join it, there isn't any quagmire of mods to worry about.  And the game doesn't even need an external client to manage MP like '46 does - CloD has an in-game server browser, and is rather nicely integrated with Steam.  I'm pretty sure this will be where it's at...some day.  At the moment, though, performance is still pretty "poor" (even with the latest beta patch, although it does make HUGE differences), and the lack of any form of anti-aliasing really grates on my nerves.  It might possibly be a good looking game some day, but the amount of very fine detail, wires and struts and stuff, means that without any anti-aliasing, it's sawtooth-jaggy-hell.
                   
                  Of the games making use of the core of IL-2, I actually think 'Wings of Prey' might be closest to the best.  Graphics that look better than 'Cliffs of Dover' at the moment, it actually runs just as good as IL-2:1946 (so very, VERY fast), amazing production values (voice acting and the soundtrack by Jeremy Soule...of Icewind Dale/Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim fame), decent story in the campaign, etc.  Unfortunately, they then proceed to crap all over themselves by insisting on the YuPlay client for match-making in MP.  When it works, it's okay...almost as good as the original 1946...but it usually doesn't work.  I've had MP matches with office mates that worked fine, we try again the next day with nobody changing anything, and suddenly only 2 of the 3 of us can connect.  Next week, everyone is fine again, then next match someone drops off and nobody can see them online anymore.  The game's netcode is fine, it's just that the YuPlay client is ****E.

                   
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                    Re:Cliffs over dover Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:30 PM (permalink)
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                    should work no problem, u have track ir?  let me   know when u wanna fly.

                    I don't use trackir. I use the 180 degree projection setup in my modsrig. Pondered getting a trackir awhile back but haven't yet.
                     
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                      Re:Cliffs over dover Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:39 PM (permalink)
                      wow i guess so. just checked you mod rig, pretty cool man. id love to see a screen shot with a flight sim loaded.
                      xander:
                       
                      yeah i agree the diff mods and patches fragmented the community.  but its pretty easy to get the UP pack installed. still, i like flying with anyone and everyone.
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                        Re:Cliffs over dover Saturday, August 04, 2012 1:52 PM (permalink)
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                        should work no problem, u have track ir?  let me   know when u wanna fly.

                        I don't use trackir. I use the 180 degree projection setup in my modsrig. Pondered getting a trackir awhile back but haven't yet.

                        Holy crap, that is MAD awesome!
                         
                        Flight sims have got to be hella cool on that.  Track IR would still help a bit, though, in looking 'up' through the top of the cockpit.

                         
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                          Re:Cliffs over dover Monday, August 06, 2012 9:10 AM (permalink)
                          http://www.ghostskies.com/
                           
                          this community flies 3 times a week, competitive yet friendly. IL2 1946, UP3.  check it out. we are finshing a france 44 campaign and will start italy soon.
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                            Re:Cliffs over dover Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:04 AM (permalink)
                            broke down and bought cliff/dover on steam. very nice graphics, havening a heck of a time setting the controls though. steam is still at 1.05 but the latest beta patch is 1.08 i think.
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                              Re:Cliffs over dover Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:26 AM (permalink)
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                              http://www.ghostskies.com/

                              this community flies 3 times a week, competitive yet friendly. IL2 1946, UP3.  check it out. we are finshing a france 44 campaign and will start italy soon.

                              Cool, will check it out later this weekend. Any of them fly the Thrustmaster Warthog? I'm looking for a driver profile. Half the battle with flight games is finding a good stick profile.
                               
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                                Re:Cliffs over dover Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:11 AM (permalink)
                                need help setting the comntrols, 109 i cant get the gear down or control the throttle.
                                 
                                110 i cant adjust the oil rads. grrrrr a frustrating game.
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                                  Re:Cliffs over dover Saturday, August 11, 2012 8:49 PM (permalink)
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                                  need help setting the comntrols, 109 i cant get the gear down or control the throttle.

                                  110 i cant adjust the oil rads. grrrrr a frustrating game.

                                  Maybe check out this thread?

                                   
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                                    Re:Cliffs over dover Sunday, August 12, 2012 1:49 PM (permalink)
                                    well the problem is i cant move the fuel cock.
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                                      Re:Cliffs over dover Sunday, August 12, 2012 2:13 PM (permalink)
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                                      well the problem is i cant move the fuel cock.

                                      Playing on max realism?  I think the scaling of difficulty missed a few interactions, where at lower levels of realism, certain controls are disabled to simplify flying...but the game engine doesn't do a great job of changing the game so you don't still need them...they are just disabled.
                                       
                                      Pure maxed-out realism seems to work for me, and the pure-arcade mode does, too.  Tweaking settings between those points...no idea.

                                       
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                                        Re:Cliffs over dover Monday, August 13, 2012 8:27 AM (permalink)
                                        i have it set with adavanced engine management. sometimes i can click with my mouse to start stuff ( oil rads, magnetos, etc) but then sometimes my mouse wont acticvate them. very frustrated.
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                                          Re:Cliffs over dover Monday, August 13, 2012 10:00 AM (permalink)
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                                          i have it set with adavanced engine management. sometimes i can click with my mouse to start stuff ( oil rads, magnetos, etc) but then sometimes my mouse wont acticvate them. very frustrated.

                                           
                                          That may be not quite sufficient.
                                           
                                          For example:
                                           
                                          bclmax
                                          well the problem is i cant move the fuel cock.

                                           
                                          If you have 'unlimited fuel' enabled in realism, for example, this control doesn't work.
                                           
                                          Anyway, with all realism options checked (literally, every one of them), these Youtube videos (scroll down the list to the 'Cliffs of Dover startup videos') will help:
                                           
                                          http://www.youtube.com/user/jimbosmith123#p/u

                                           
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                                            Re:Cliffs over dover Sunday, August 19, 2012 10:01 AM (permalink)
                                            well with the new bata pacth of 1.08 my controls seem to work. next question is the bombs on a bf110. cant seem to get them to blow up.  i turn on the master arm but still no luck.  any advice?
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                                              Re:Cliffs over dover Sunday, August 19, 2012 8:22 PM (permalink)
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                                              well with the new bata pacth of 1.08 my controls seem to work. next question is the bombs on a bf110. cant seem to get them to blow up.  i turn on the master arm but still no luck.  any advice?

                                              Check out this thread - probably, the issue you are running into is fusing settings.

                                               
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                                                Re:Cliffs over dover Monday, August 20, 2012 11:36 AM (permalink)
                                                yeah, another thing i have to play with in a 110 is the single or slavo option on the arming box.
                                                 
                                                does the order matter? arming, slecting fuse, single slavo.
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                                                  Re:Cliffs over dover Monday, August 20, 2012 12:28 PM (permalink)
                                                  Idk
                                                   
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                                                    Re:Cliffs over dover Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:43 PM (permalink)
                                                    ok, got the bombs figured out.  set salvo then master arm. you should have 2 lights on the box.
                                                     
                                                    next problem, the auto pilot for a 110. why does the mag comp. lag so much in readings?
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                                                      Re:Cliffs over dover Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:04 AM (permalink)
                                                      new beta patch out, xxx.201111. alot of fixes, great game.  check it out.
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                                                        Re:Cliffs over dover Monday, October 08, 2012 7:55 PM (permalink)
                                                        new hotfix out, fixes sli/crossfire and hurricanes startup
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                                                          Re:Cliffs over dover Friday, October 12, 2012 8:10 PM (permalink)
                                                          yet another patch is out:
                                                           
                                                          http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=34902
                                                           
                                                           
                                                          keeps getting better, cant wait to try the lorenz blind landing beacon.
                                                           
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                                                            Re:Cliffs over dover Friday, October 19, 2012 1:04 PM (permalink)
                                                            steam has the final patch now, updates your game when u open it, a few more fixes.
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