I would definitely like to see some engine bay pics, of Donta's twin turbo setup. 
 
IMO, the 4.0L is an old and tired setup to bother with it.  But the new 3.7 is different story. :)

whitnasty1


Yeah it is hard to beat the sound of a Ferrari's V8 screaming at close to 9000 RPM's....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hwn9Srz1Yc

Dude Ferrari's don't have that deep aggressive tone that I am talking about. Ferrari's have that formula 1 exhaust tone sound. Also Holo some European V8s cant be Fords 800bhp Super Snake Mustang. You know the one I am talking about. Also my 03 Cobra has traction control but it sucks. That is why I bought me some big boy tires that are wider than usual. Also the car down below is my dream car. 67 mustang Eleanor. Hands down the best car ever!!!!
 
MY BABY!!
  
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Link to 800bhp Mustang: http://money.cnn.com/2011..._super_snake/index.htm

Does everything on your car have to be named out of a child's toy store? Loud mouth exhaust, big boy tires?
 
And you've obviously never seen or heard a Ferrari screaming near 9000 RPMs or you wouldn't be talking. Also your car's exhaust sounds full of rasp and drone. And on a last note, that has got to the be ugliest car in the world. Remember there's a reason we have evolution, and the new mustang>any other looks and performance...
 

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT

whitnasty1


Yeah it is hard to beat the sound of a Ferrari's V8 screaming at close to 9000 RPM's....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hwn9Srz1Yc

Dude Ferrari's don't have that deep aggressive tone that I am talking about. Ferrari's have that formula 1 exhaust tone sound. Also Holo some European V8s cant be Fords 800bhp Super Snake Mustang. You know the one I am talking about. Also my 03 Cobra has traction control but it sucks. That is why I bought me some big boy tires that are wider than usual. Also the car down below is my dream car. 67 mustang Eleanor. Hands down the best car ever!!!!

MY BABY!!
  










Link to 800bhp Mustang: http://money.cnn.com/2011..._super_snake/index.htm

WOW Holo you are the biggest hatter ever LOL. And what do you mean everything is named out of a child's toy store? Like seriously dude, really lol? That what my freakin pipes are literately called and that is what you call my tires as well. What else do you expect. You are right I have never heard a Ferrari screaming at 9000RPM in person but it still sounds like a formula 1 car with out the deep aggressive tone. Also my exhaust sounds better than your rice bucket. Yours sounds like a weed eater lol.  Also I can guarantee you ALOT, no A TONE of people think the 67 Mustang Eleanor is a sexy car. O and dont forget the 67 Eleanor can beat your car too. There are two versions one with 425BHP and one with 600Bhp at stock.

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT


WOW Holo you are the biggest hatter ever LOL. And what do you mean everything is named out of a child's toy store? Like seriously dude, really lol? That what my freakin pipes are literately called and that is what you call my tires as well. What else do you expect. You are right I have never heard a Ferrari screaming at 9000RPM in person but it still sounds like a formula 1 car with out the deep aggressive tone. Also my exhaust sounds better than your rice bucket. Yours sounds like a weed eater lol.  Also I can guarantee you ALOT, no A TONE of people think the 67 Mustang Eleanor is a sexy car. O and dont forget the 67 Eleanor can beat your car too. There are two versions one with 425BHP and one with 600Bhp at stock.

You realize my car is handling, not speed right? and you further realize your car crashes when it sees a corner right? And you further realize that my car is an entry level luxury car not sports car right? I will take you on track, you can have your quarter mile but I will destroy you on the twisties, plain and simple.
 
Also, the 67 mustang looks like a pos, I have to say it. Old things should stay in the past.
 
And yes big boy tires, and loud mouth exhaust sound like two things out of a child's toy store. There's no hating on american muscle just hating on stuck up people who think Ford is the god of everything when just about every manufacturer can make a car that'll spank it on the track, the Ford GT is owned by many cars, and your mustang is spanked by just about every other sports car with equal horse power.
 
Seriously, its 2012, get rid of the live axle.

kaninja


BMW?  Traction Control?  Women like BMW's over Mustang's?  What is going on here?

BMW, nice car...horrible resale value, boring.  I didn't say it's not fast....but it's boring.  I drove a 2010 M3 for 400 kms's.....nice car, but boring.

Traction control?  Yeah, no thanks...it's called your right foot and learning how to drive your car.  You want to see a car that was insane to drive?  Try driving my old Mustang in the rain.  480rwhp, about the same in torque, 3.73 rear end, and ET Street Radials.  Could make the back end of that car step out pretty much at will in any gear except 5th.  Everything else I've driven feels like it's glued, nailed, and then strapped to the pavement.

Any girl that would choose a dude driving a BMW over a Mustang simply based on the car he drove......the guy in the Mustang is dodging a bullet.  Can't tell you how many times I was flagged down by chicks just to go for a ride in my Mustang.....and boy did the ride make them very happy.....and appreciative.

Man I miss my car.

 
The new V8 M3's are very tame compared to the older balls to the wall straight six e46 M3's. I track my car at VIR, trust me I can drive just fine, but when some idiot pulls out 20 feet in front of you going 80 mph, that has nothing to do with your driving, you need every bit of help you can get in a situation like that, if that would have been a Mustang I guarantee it would have been in a ditch, or ate up in the grill of one of those stopped cars.  I like my cars being stuck to the pavement, I take it you have never tracked your Mustang and you will know what I'm talking about. BMW's all around are much nicer cars that BMW, and if you honestly think a Ford Mustang is better than an M3, you have some serious problems. They go fast in a straight line. Awesome, who cares, unless the only place you drive your car is on a 1/4 mile drag strip. You need to get serious, Mustangs are a sorry excuse of engineering and are nothing but motor. I have driven many mustangs, including an svt cobra, and hell yes, it is fast hell and sticks you to the back of the seat, they just do not handle well at all. You must live out in the country and be one of those American car gung ho guys?

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT

whitnasty1


Yeah it is hard to beat the sound of a Ferrari's V8 screaming at close to 9000 RPM's....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hwn9Srz1Yc

Dude Ferrari's don't have that deep aggressive tone that I am talking about. Ferrari's have that formula 1 exhaust tone sound. Also Holo some European V8s cant be Fords 800bhp Super Snake Mustang. You know the one I am talking about. Also my 03 Cobra has traction control but it sucks. That is why I bought me some big boy tires that are wider than usual. Also the car down below is my dream car. 67 mustang Eleanor. Hands down the best car ever!!!!

MY BABY!!
  










Link to 800bhp Mustang: http://money.cnn.com/2011..._super_snake/index.htm

 
That is also my dream car. So sexy!

Holo

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT


WOW Holo you are the biggest hatter ever LOL. And what do you mean everything is named out of a child's toy store? Like seriously dude, really lol? That what my freakin pipes are literately called and that is what you call my tires as well. What else do you expect. You are right I have never heard a Ferrari screaming at 9000RPM in person but it still sounds like a formula 1 car with out the deep aggressive tone. Also my exhaust sounds better than your rice bucket. Yours sounds like a weed eater lol.  Also I can guarantee you ALOT, no A TONE of people think the 67 Mustang Eleanor is a sexy car. O and dont forget the 67 Eleanor can beat your car too. There are two versions one with 425BHP and one with 600Bhp at stock.

You realize my car is handling, not speed right? and you further realize your car crashes when it sees a corner right? And you further realize that my car is an entry level luxury car not sports car right? I will take you on track, you can have your quarter mile but I will destroy you on the twisties, plain and simple.

Also, the 67 mustang looks like a pos, I have to say it. Old things should stay in the past.

And yes big boy tires, and loud mouth exhaust sound like two things out of a child's toy store. There's no hating on american muscle just hating on stuck up people who think Ford is the god of everything when just about every manufacturer can make a car that'll spank it on the track, the Ford GT is owned by many cars, and your mustang is spanked by just about every other sports car with equal horse power.

Seriously, its 2012, get rid of the live axle.

 
x 1000000
 
I have always liked how the G35 exhaust sounds, it is one of the deeper sounding V6's. You're right about it being of the most powerful V6's as well, it is a 3.5L isnt it? Nice car, I'd like to see some pics of it.
I was referring to bkh's post about European V8's, personally I love how high revving v8 and v10's sound, it will make the hair on your neck stand up hearing one of those things. Getting a motor with such a large displacement to rev close to 10,000 RPM is an amazing feat of engineering. You simply can not beat European interiors either.
Here is the most recent picture of my M3...

Holo

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT


WOW Holo you are the biggest hatter ever LOL. And what do you mean everything is named out of a child's toy store? Like seriously dude, really lol? That what my freakin pipes are literately called and that is what you call my tires as well. What else do you expect. You are right I have never heard a Ferrari screaming at 9000RPM in person but it still sounds like a formula 1 car with out the deep aggressive tone. Also my exhaust sounds better than your rice bucket. Yours sounds like a weed eater lol.  Also I can guarantee you ALOT, no A TONE of people think the 67 Mustang Eleanor is a sexy car. O and dont forget the 67 Eleanor can beat your car too. There are two versions one with 425BHP and one with 600Bhp at stock.

You realize my car is handling, not speed right? and you further realize your car crashes when it sees a corner right? And you further realize that my car is an entry level luxury car not sports car right? I will take you on track, you can have your quarter mile but I will destroy you on the twisties, plain and simple.

Also, the 67 mustang looks like a pos, I have to say it. Old things should stay in the past.

And yes big boy tires, and loud mouth exhaust sound like two things out of a child's toy store. There's no hating on american muscle just hating on stuck up people who think Ford is the god of everything when just about every manufacturer can make a car that'll spank it on the track, the Ford GT is owned by many cars, and your mustang is spanked by just about every other sports car with equal horse power.

Seriously, its 2012, get rid of the live axle.

Ya I know your car is meant for twists and turns. But hell I will take my car on a circuit track and see whats good. Remember it also all depends on the driver too so there will be no crashing in the corner unless the driver sucks. Since you are talking about how your car's class, it is considered a luxury/performance car which in terms is a sports car. The infinity is based off of the Nissan Skyline but a down graded version. Just because your car is a entry level does not mean you cant up grade it. Upgrade your car like I did with mine to have performance. I am not stuck up and I don't think Ford is God of everything. I just have A LOT of pride. Its like your taking this to serious all from the beginning from your very first post on this thread. Relax man, its like your getting all defensive once again trying to prove a point or something. Yes there are cars that can beat Ford cars most definitely. You win some and you lose some.

I unno the new mustang gt handles just as well as an m3. Mustang has come a long way in handling.... And seriously if we talking about handling where does the g35 and g37 come into the talks... If anything we should talk about the 370 with weight reduction and suspension setup. V6 and handling... And great sound then let's talk about an actual car built for this.



Hks mid pipe and exhaust with a Cobb tune. Can we say 0-60 2.8 and 10s on street tires? Soon to get intake and injectors hoping to put down around 530 to the wheels.

In the end everyone is a car enthusiast with their own tastes an their own likes and dislikes. No reason to bash someone due to what they like...

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT

Holo

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT


WOW Holo you are the biggest hatter ever LOL. And what do you mean everything is named out of a child's toy store? Like seriously dude, really lol? That what my freakin pipes are literately called and that is what you call my tires as well. What else do you expect. You are right I have never heard a Ferrari screaming at 9000RPM in person but it still sounds like a formula 1 car with out the deep aggressive tone. Also my exhaust sounds better than your rice bucket. Yours sounds like a weed eater lol.  Also I can guarantee you ALOT, no A TONE of people think the 67 Mustang Eleanor is a sexy car. O and dont forget the 67 Eleanor can beat your car too. There are two versions one with 425BHP and one with 600Bhp at stock.

You realize my car is handling, not speed right? and you further realize your car crashes when it sees a corner right? And you further realize that my car is an entry level luxury car not sports car right? I will take you on track, you can have your quarter mile but I will destroy you on the twisties, plain and simple.

Also, the 67 mustang looks like a pos, I have to say it. Old things should stay in the past.

And yes big boy tires, and loud mouth exhaust sound like two things out of a child's toy store. There's no hating on american muscle just hating on stuck up people who think Ford is the god of everything when just about every manufacturer can make a car that'll spank it on the track, the Ford GT is owned by many cars, and your mustang is spanked by just about every other sports car with equal horse power.

Seriously, its 2012, get rid of the live axle.

Ya I know your car is meant for twists and turns. But hell I will take my car on a circuit track and see whats good. Remember it also all depends on the driver too so there will be no crashing in the corner unless the driver sucks. Since you are talking about how your car's class, it is considered a luxury/performance car which in terms is a sports car. The infinity is based off of the Nissan Skyline but a down graded version. Just because your car is a entry level does not mean you cant up grade it. Upgrade your car like I did with mine to have performance. I am not stuck up and I don't think Ford is God of everything. I just have A LOT of pride. Its like your taking this to serious all from the beginning from your very first post on this thread. Relax man, its like your getting all defensive once again trying to prove a point or something. Yes there are cars that can beat Ford cars most definitely. You win some and you lose some.

My car is upgraded over stock in the areas that matter to me, breaking, handling and awesome grip. Upgraded rims from 8/8.5s to 9/10 wide f/r with bigger summer tires(also lost 20 pounds in the upgrade due to lighter and wider rims). Upgraded pads and rotors for stopping power(plan to add a BBK later on this year). Shed 100 pounds of weight off my car to make it lighter. Upgraded springs and shocks on my car for a stiffer more planted ride with a lower center of gravity.
 
My car has all the acceleration I need for my purposes. Due to the TOS I can't point out some of the roads I've driven and the speeds I've done on them but I'll leave it at this(and my car is faster than my buddy's rx8) we were coming back from the mountains on some twisties and we ran into an SS Camaro, probably 2009 or so he was loud, and he was fast easily smoked us on the straight aways, the moment corners hit he had to break while my buddy further had his pedal fully down accelerating. He would lose 20-30mph in those corners while we just kept cruising thru doing 40-45 miles an hour more than him thru the corner, no tire squeel, no lose end, just mechanical grip. The only thing that owned us ever in those mountains both in his rx8, and in my G is a GTR, it managed to carry 10-20 mph more than us and get back on the acceleration right after smoking us. But that's it.

whitnasty1

Holo

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT


WOW Holo you are the biggest hatter ever LOL. And what do you mean everything is named out of a child's toy store? Like seriously dude, really lol? That what my freakin pipes are literately called and that is what you call my tires as well. What else do you expect. You are right I have never heard a Ferrari screaming at 9000RPM in person but it still sounds like a formula 1 car with out the deep aggressive tone. Also my exhaust sounds better than your rice bucket. Yours sounds like a weed eater lol.  Also I can guarantee you ALOT, no A TONE of people think the 67 Mustang Eleanor is a sexy car. O and dont forget the 67 Eleanor can beat your car too. There are two versions one with 425BHP and one with 600Bhp at stock.

You realize my car is handling, not speed right? and you further realize your car crashes when it sees a corner right? And you further realize that my car is an entry level luxury car not sports car right? I will take you on track, you can have your quarter mile but I will destroy you on the twisties, plain and simple.

Also, the 67 mustang looks like a pos, I have to say it. Old things should stay in the past.

And yes big boy tires, and loud mouth exhaust sound like two things out of a child's toy store. There's no hating on american muscle just hating on stuck up people who think Ford is the god of everything when just about every manufacturer can make a car that'll spank it on the track, the Ford GT is owned by many cars, and your mustang is spanked by just about every other sports car with equal horse power.

Seriously, its 2012, get rid of the live axle.

x 1000000

I have always liked how the G35 exhaust sounds, it is one of the deeper sounding V6's. You're right about it being of the most powerful V6's as well, it is a 3.5L isnt it? Nice car, I'd like to see some pics of it.
I was referring to bkh's post about European V8's, personally I love how high revving v8 and v10's sound, it will make the hair on your neck stand up hearing one of those things. Getting a motor with such a large displacement to rev close to 10,000 RPM is an amazing feat of engineering. You simply can not beat European interiors either.
Here is the most recent picture of my M3...

I'll post some after I wash my car today, the haboobs in arizona have made it near impossible to keep a car clean in the last 2 weeks. Also love the wheels and front diffuser. Lastly, got a shot from the rear?
 
And yes it does have a 3.5L V6, 280hp, about 3300 pounds, not too shabby but not great either(as far as weight goes) wish it was around 2900-3000.
 

bhk1004


I unno the new mustang gt handles just as well as an m3. Mustang has come a long way in handling.... And seriously if we talking about handling where does the g35 and g37 come into the talks... If anything we should talk about the 370 with weight reduction and suspension setup. V6 and handling... And great sound then let's talk about an actual car built for this.



Hks mid pipe and exhaust with a Cobb tune. Can we say 0-60 2.8 and 10s on street tires? Soon to get intake and injectors hoping to put down around 530 to the wheels.

In the end everyone is a car enthusiast with their own tastes an their own likes and dislikes. No reason to bash someone due to what they like...

There was only one G35 built for time attack that was able to take a GTR on, 600hp/600tq, shed all its weight, gutted interior, full functional aero(silly wing, and a rear diffuser). It was a time attack car. Also the G35/g37 is in the same price range as a mustang, and packs roughly the same performance just depends which route you wanna take, hp or handling. Ofc Im not referring to the new 5.0 or GT500, those are in a class of their own reaching close to 200MPH(the gt500). But for a 50k car, I would not want a live rear axle regardless of how well it handles..
 
Also love the GTR, all time favorite car but at the price it packs now, I rather trade a bit of performance for a bit of luxury.

I see some great cars here. personally i love mustangs, the only negative thing about them is their price in the netherlands. while the price in america starts at 18000 dollar the cheapest new Mustangs here start around 60 thousand EURO!!!
 
My Fav cars:
 
Tuner: 1996 Eclipse / Mazda RX8
Muscle: Ford mustang, the new cars and the lovely 1967 Mustang Shelby Cobra GT500
Exotic: Aston Martin Virage 
Hyper: Lamborghini Avantador.... it's just a beast!

40-45 mph more through a corner? Obviously the guy stopped trying because your not going to be going around a corner that much faster than any modern performance vehicle. That's just ridiculous. People over exaggerate too much.

kaninja


40-45 mph more through a corner? Obviously the guy stopped trying because your not going to be going around a corner that much faster than any modern performance vehicle. That's just ridiculous. People over exaggerate too much.

Like I said, Im not gonna divulge the actual speeds were going at, just the difference between them. He didnt stop trying because the was still revving high trying to catch up long after we stopped trying to go fast and were just cruising.

As promised here's also a picture of my car.

I do see mustangs all the time at Sebring international race way. No handling issues.

I read this thread and then I think of this:

I love my truck.

donta1979


I do see mustangs all the time at Sebring international race way. No handling issues.

Imo, the stock v6 and gt stangs, were never made for great handling or for that matter a ton of power.  But the thing is with their popularity, they make custom parts for pretty much every single component of the car (especially the fox bodies).  You can pick up a fox body for $1-3k.  Put $1000 into the suspension, $1500 into the drivetrain, and have a 2700-3200lb, 350hp car.  So for about $4500-5000, you can have a quick car that can also take the twisties.  I know a live rear axle isn't for everybody, but it is a great bang for the buck, and is completely tunable to your liking.  You get what you pay for, if you want to start out with a performance car that is $10-30k, obviously the end result will be greater (in most cases, lol)
 
Also 95% of the modded stangs that you see on the street, are either cars with a cat-back and racing stripes (poser that thinks their all that), or not tuned properly.  Same thing with most so called modded  cars (tuners, european, domestic).  Just because I can beat most of the Honda's that have a pumpkin launcher on the back, reving his engine at the light with the wifes Hyundai, doesn't mean they are all a bunch of slow turds.
 
There are plenty of mustang's autocrossing around hear, along with myself occasionally.

Hey Holo those are some nice upgrades for your car. Also I respect you on what you desire for your car. Ya that Camaro had no chance to go around those corners at top speed. The new Camaros now days are ridiculously heavy and that extra weight would of cause that driver to crash on those turns as well as the poor traction control they have.  Also the GTR is such a sexy car. I would love to have one of those. My X friend had 04 RX8(until it got repossessed). Dude he messed that thing up. The first day he bought that car he told me he was going to drift it around this one corner at our street, and I told him let me out of the car first and then he power slides it (not drift) and pops a curb and bends his rim like a idiot lol. Another stupid thing he did was cut a hole in his bumper by his intake thinking it will give him more horse power. He also took his enigine a part and couldn't even put it back together. RX-8 engines are so small. Its a 80 pound triangle rotary engine. Rotary engines are also used in helicopters. Hey you should try to race a Subaru STI with your car. It would be a fair race.

Nuff said!! 
 

 
 

Very nice stang @ the OP.  I'm more in to off road vehicles than street rides but if I was to ever own a stree car it would have to be a stang of some sort.

bhk1004


I unno the new mustang gt handles just as well as an m3. Mustang has come a long way in handling.... And seriously if we talking about handling where does the g35 and g37 come into the talks... If anything we should talk about the 370 with weight reduction and suspension setup. V6 and handling... And great sound then let's talk about an actual car built for this.



Hks mid pipe and exhaust with a Cobb tune. Can we say 0-60 2.8 and 10s on street tires? Soon to get intake and injectors hoping to put down around 530 to the wheels.

In the end everyone is a car enthusiast with their own tastes an their own likes and dislikes. No reason to bash someone due to what they like...

 
No Mustang handles anywhere near as well as an M3, yeah the M3 isnt as fast in a striaght line as a  Mustang, but I dont care what anyone says, I've driven a 2011 Mustang and my '04 M3 handles 100's of times better than any American car. Period. Go drive an M3 and then a Mustang and report back. And I'm not talking about a Mustang with 10 grand in the suspension, go drive a stock M3 and a stock Mustang and tell me which handles better.
 
Holo, I like your G35, those are sick rims, what kind are what are the dimension? Mine are 18x9 in the back and 18x8.5 up front. If there is enough light this afternoon I will get a few pics of the rear of my car.

whitnasty1

No Mustang handles anywhere near as well as an M3, yeah the M3 isnt as fast in a striaght line as a  Mustang, but I dont care what anyone says, I've driven a 2011 Mustang and my '04 M3 handles 100's of times better than any American car. Period. Go drive an M3 and then a Mustang and report back.

 
False man, very false.  If you were a pro driver and drove a new Mustang and your M3 around a track like the Streets of Big Willow, your lap times would be less than 1/2 second around the track between the two cars....with the Boss version besting a regular M3 by about a second.
 
I love how people underestimate the handling of the new Mustangs.  Even a lot of the video reviews the tester is like the first time he goes a round a corner......they still have a live rear axle right.  Not just power either, as the newer M3's and the new Mustang have similar hp....only about 5hp difference, they are within 100 lbs of each other so weight is moot too.
 
The main problem is that for an M3 the price is around $60,000 brand new.....whereas the Mustang is around $30,000.  That's a lot of bank.....and makes that extra second around a track that an M3 might be a non-issue for most anyone.  On top of that Ford's build quality and reliability have become one of the best....no longer the POS of old....and I will admit my old Mustang was very POS in some areas....thank goodness for the aftermarket back then.
 
Also, the standard Boss 302 will lap Laguna Seca a second faster than the M3....with the LS version of the Boss 302 lapping even a second faster than that.  Both are a new Honda Civic, and a weekend in Vegas with the boys cheaper than the M3.

Good looking car

kaninja

whitnasty1

No Mustang handles anywhere near as well as an M3, yeah the M3 isnt as fast in a striaght line as a  Mustang, but I dont care what anyone says, I've driven a 2011 Mustang and my '04 M3 handles 100's of times better than any American car. Period. Go drive an M3 and then a Mustang and report back.

False man, very false.  If you were a pro driver and drove a new Mustang and your M3 around a track like the Streets of Big Willow, your lap times would be less than 1/2 second around the track between the two cars....with the Boss version besting a regular M3 by about a second.

I love how people underestimate the handling of the new Mustangs.  Even a lot of the video reviews the tester is like the first time he goes a round a corner......they still have a live rear axle right.  Not just power either, as the newer M3's and the new Mustang have similar hp....only about 5hp difference, they are within 100 lbs of each other so weight is moot too.

The main problem is that for an M3 the price is around $60,000 brand new.....whereas the Mustang is around $30,000.  That's a lot of bank.....and makes that extra second around a track that an M3 might be a non-issue for most anyone.  On top of that Ford's build quality and reliability have become one of the best....no longer the POS of old....and I will admit my old Mustang was very POS in some areas....thank goodness for the aftermarket back then.

Also, the standard Boss 302 will lap Laguna Seca a second faster than the M3....with the LS version of the Boss 302 lapping even a second faster than that.  Both are a new Honda Civic, and a weekend in Vegas with the boys cheaper than the M3.

 I'm talking about a 2003 - 2006 E46 M3, I highly recommend that you go drive one and come back and then tell me how you feel about it. The LS Boss 302 is such a highly tuned Mustang that it's an apples and oranges comparison. I haven't driven a brand new Mustang on a track, but I have driven a '09 Mustang on a track and the body roll for me is what kills it, the M3 just stick. We raced, the m3 against the '09 Mustang, the two cars being equal weight and the Mustang coming it around 50 rwhp than the M3, and the M3 won by atleast 2 seconds at Virginia International Raceway, we switched off cars each twice, for a total of four laps, and the Mustang was behind everytime. This is with both cars completely stock, and I'm not saying that I am a pro driver whatsoever, but I can drive.
My best advice to you is go out and drive an e46 m3 against a Mustang and let us know how you feel then. The added luxury of the BMW is enough to win someone over, and beating the Mustang at VIR every single time with 50 less hp, is a true testament to the handling of the M3. I have taken big wide turns at 160 MPH on the BMW, the I wouldn't take the Mustang over 140 around that turn, there is just way too much body roll and its way too loose. If you want to compare the M3 to a LS Boss 302, then add about $10k of engine and suspension upgrades to the M3, and then run them. The BMW also feels MUCH more stable at high speeds, especially 150+ mph, I've done right at 163-165 in 5th, (there is 6 gears), and it feels incredibly stable, the '09 Mustang I was driving was getting very dicey starting at around 140. You really have to drive the M3, the e46, not the e92 which I think is tame in comparison the e46 to fully understand what I'm talking about. Just test drive one, see if you can take it by yourself, and report back. I guarantee it will change your mind.

Maybe if you guys quit buying video cards every other month, you can get a real cobra. 
http://www.cobra-ranch.co...ll-block-cobra-at.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

whitnasty1

bhk1004


I unno the new mustang gt handles just as well as an m3. Mustang has come a long way in handling.... And seriously if we talking about handling where does the g35 and g37 come into the talks... If anything we should talk about the 370 with weight reduction and suspension setup. V6 and handling... And great sound then let's talk about an actual car built for this.



Hks mid pipe and exhaust with a Cobb tune. Can we say 0-60 2.8 and 10s on street tires? Soon to get intake and injectors hoping to put down around 530 to the wheels.

In the end everyone is a car enthusiast with their own tastes an their own likes and dislikes. No reason to bash someone due to what they like...

No Mustang handles anywhere near as well as an M3, yeah the M3 isnt as fast in a striaght line as a  Mustang, but I dont care what anyone says, I've driven a 2011 Mustang and my '04 M3 handles 100's of times better than any American car. Period. Go drive an M3 and then a Mustang and report back. And I'm not talking about a Mustang with 10 grand in the suspension, go drive a stock M3 and a stock Mustang and tell me which handles better.

Holo, I like your G35, those are sick rims, what kind are what are the dimension? Mine are 18x9 in the back and 18x8.5 up front. If there is enough light this afternoon I will get a few pics of the rear of my car.

Weddsports SA-55M, +18/+15 18x9 up front, 18x10 out back wrapped in hankook evo 12s 245/40/18 265/40/18
 
They are about 18 and 19 pounds each.

ive driven many e46 M3s... many friends of mine had it since 3 series bmw's are the civics of northern jersey. to be honest... nothing special...
 
also when you are at a track you have to realize that 99.9% of the time, it will come down to what tires you have, what brakes you have, and who has more experience under their belt. you cannot compare times between different drivers. it makes absolutely no sense.
 
Please go read the reviews where they have taken the new mustang GT vs the new M3 to the race course and they basically run almost identical times with the same driver. What are you going to tell me next? that the e46 m3 is faster? lol.
 
lastly what is so great about these interiors your speak of on the M3... BMW interiors havent changed in the past 20 years. They are boring and look old fashion. only difference between my father in laws 2000 3 series and my brother in law's 2010 135, is a couple of a knobs. was ugly back then, still ugly now. Fit and finish? yes fit and finish is great on the bmw interior. are they attractive? hellz no. #1 reason why ive never owned one... along with the fact that every single one of my friends that have owned one has had to trade their car in the moment it goes out of warranty.... everything breaks and out of pocket expense is just too much to deal with. cheaper to buy a new car.
a nice little read below.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustang_gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/viewall.html

I think the last review I read comparing multiple cars put the corvette Z as the best bang for the buck.  It beat out quarter million dollar cars on multiple test tracks. 
 
I'd never spend that kind of money on a new car.  I'd much rather drive a $5k car with $50k worth of upgrades, than pay $60k for a new stock car that anyone can buy.
 
A stock car shouldn't even be brought into the equation, they should only be compared to each other when picking out a base model to start a build on.  At the end of the day, it is just a husk housing whatever it truly is that you wanted inside. 
 
What really matters is the character, personality, and skill of the driver.  I'd never say I drive an M3, but if someone asked me or commented that I drove an m3, or mustang, I'd correct them and say, "well that's what it started as."
 
I got my first comment on my current ride yesterday.  It felt kinda cool, since I thought I was the only one who felt that way about it.  It's been customized, but not to the point to draw attention.  In fact, it has been customized to do the exact opposite.  All chrome or accents have been blacked out. 

Read my entire post, we switched cars twice, two laps with each driver in each car. You have some serious issues if you honestly believe that a Mustang looks better than an M3. I said the M3 is more of a luxury car than the Mustang is, you need to get your head out of the "American cars are God's gift to Earth mindset", that must be why the almost went out of business in '08. I'm done arguing with you about Mustangs, they suck. You must not know German cars very well at all, I also did not say the e46 is faster, I said the e92 m3 is much, much more tame in comparison to the e46, drive both and you will understand.  If the #1 reason you have never owned one is because for some ungodly reason you think they dont look good, you need your head checked. My M3 has almost 110,000 miles on it and I have never had a single mechanical problem whatsoever. And yeah the article, you posted is a good read. The Mustang has almost 100 lbs of torque than the M3 does, and the M3 beats it in pretty much every thing except for the quarter mile. Also look at the weight distribution on the M3, it is pretty much perfectly balanced. That article pretty much says what I have been saying the entire thread. Thanks for helping out my argument. You guys who think Mustangs are the most amazing things on the road, need to try something new. I can't talk though, I thought Mustangs were the coolest thing on the road when I was 12 also. I won't count it against you though, you're from New Jersey.