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Cisco forces router users into the cloud Thursday, July 05, 2012 3:16 PM (permalink)
Oh really Cisco?  You've just lost a lot of customers I think.....
http://www.neowin.net/news/cisco-locks-users-out-of-their-routers-requires-invasive-cloud-service
 
 
    


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    Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Thursday, July 05, 2012 3:33 PM (permalink)
    Lol screw that and Cisco. Where is a deux ex pic with "I never asked for this" picture when you need it?
     
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      Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:12 PM (permalink)
      I'm in love with the idea of just how bad EULAs will be in a decade. It'll be a perfect storm of butthurt. Companies just get more and more bold with EULAs.
       
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        Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:20 PM (permalink)
        what a ridiculous idea :(
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          Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:52 PM (permalink)
          You can probably imagine what's going to happen to their sister company Netgear's routers too.

           

           
           
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            Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:17 PM (permalink)
            *Sigh*
             
                           
             
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              Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:19 PM (permalink)
              get used to it guys, the way technology is going, we wont have the same kind of privacy that we used to, thats why ive seen this time period going forth being called the post-privacy era. you cant change it, all you can do is hope its regulated properly. we havent even scratched the surface when it comes to a monolithic integrated system that reports on anything, this is going to be a good thing, we just need to manage it right.


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                Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:30 PM (permalink)
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                get used to it guys, the way technology is going, we wont have the same kind of privacy that we used to, thats why ive seen this time period going forth being called the post-privacy era. you cant change it, all you can do is hope its regulated properly. we havent even scratched the surface when it comes to a monolithic integrated system that reports on anything, this is going to be a good thing, we just need to manage it right.

                 
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                Not to hate on you, or say that you are wrong, but we CAN do something about it. Stop using cisco routers then, that can stop them. We are consumers, in order to wake the company up, we need to answer with our wallets. Same thing goes for video game companies, electronics, and markets. However, since we have a huge population of uneducated people, we are bound to stick with the majority ruling. This is Cisco though, if the cisco users can't change at all, then I guess there's no choice.
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                  Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:57 PM (permalink)
                  I just installed a Cisco router yesterday at a neighbors house and updated the firmware, it never asked me to setup any kind of cloud services. I'll make sure to let them know about this though. Not cool.
                   
                   
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                    Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 7:55 AM (permalink)
                    and that is why i don't buy consumer equipment, i buy strictly cisco enterprise hardware.

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                      Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 8:25 AM (permalink)
                      No one gets between me and my pron!

                       
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                        Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 8:44 AM (permalink)
                        With how cheap you can get hardware for anymore you could make your own linux based router that is far more powerful, secure, and customizable. The main issue there is making a nice compact, low power version with enough ethernet ports and with the wifi capabilities you'd want.
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                          Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 8:55 AM (permalink)
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                            Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 8:56 AM (permalink)
                            Yesssssssssssssss!  Fight the power!

                             
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                              Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 9:01 AM (permalink)
                               
                                 


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                                Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 9:31 AM (permalink)
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                                Lol screw that and Cisco. Where is a deux ex pic with "I never asked for this" picture when you need it?

                                 

                                 
                                I guess i am lucky i got a ASUS router... It is going to be hard to get my to by a linksys after this.
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                                  Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 10:03 AM (permalink)
                                  So does this mean that Cisco can see all the pron i watch regardless of my in private browsing?
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                                    Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 11:32 AM (permalink)
                                    quote from
                                     http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/technology/technolog/cisco-routers-updated-anti-porn-anti-piracy-user-agreement-864533
                                     
                                    "...but included a terms of service that forbade porn and suggested Cisco would be recording your browsing habits. "
                                     
                                     
                                    you ask me...this accounts to spying and would be illegal in most countries
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                                      Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 12:00 PM (permalink)
                                      if a router is not ddwrt/tomoto ready i will not buy it for this exact reason
                                       
                                       
                                        

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                                        Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 12:52 PM (permalink)
                                        How does it work..you need to be routed to get to the internet dont you? So you are constantly being double routed into this stupid cloud crap. 
                                         
                                        Router routes you to router cloud that routes you again. 
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                                          Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 1:27 PM (permalink)
                                          awesome!! so glad enough people got to together to stop this. im sure all cisco really cared about was all the people that were putting this on social media and then saying do not buy cisco products and heres why, lmfao.
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                                            Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 2:40 PM (permalink)
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                                            How does it work..you need to be routed to get to the internet dont you? So you are constantly being double routed into this stupid cloud crap. 

                                            Router routes you to router cloud that routes you again. 

                                            Yo dawg, i heard you like routing...
                                             

                                             
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                                              Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 11:02 PM (permalink)
                                              good thing i've had my Motorola Modeom/Router for a couple years now or was it a year ... regardless I love it

                                               
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                                                Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Friday, July 06, 2012 11:45 PM (permalink)
                                                If you have an old PC laying around, just make a PFsense box or something similar....then your only at the mercy of your own ridiculous whims.
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                                                  Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Saturday, July 07, 2012 12:25 AM (permalink)
                                                  sinephase


                                                  With how cheap you can get hardware for anymore you could make your own linux based router that is far more powerful, secure, and customizable. The main issue there is making a nice compact, low power version with enough ethernet ports and with the wifi capabilities you'd want.

                                                  yup
                                                  my old thinkpad is setup for that ,that and a old switch attached to it
                                                  I happen to have 2 networks at home
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                                                    Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Saturday, July 07, 2012 12:31 AM (permalink)
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                                                    good thing i've had my Motorola Modeom/Router for a couple years now or was it a year ... regardless I love it

                                                    so this
                                                    I have a old enterprise switch/Router/Modeom
                                                    heck I just have to take the test then I'm net+ sert. and I see things in the setting I don't even know what to do with
                                                    it has atm support too lol
                                                     
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                                                      Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:11 AM (permalink)
                                                      Cisco/Linksys has had a change of heart. They now offer non cloud based firmware as well. So, the user now has a choice. Many people raised a stink and made Cisco/Linksys come to a quick response.
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                                                        Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:13 AM (permalink)

                                                         
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                                                        How does it work..you need to be routed to get to the internet dont you? So you are constantly being double routed into this stupid cloud crap. 

                                                        Router routes you to router cloud that routes you again. 

                                                        Yo dawg, i heard you like routing...




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                                                          Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Saturday, July 07, 2012 4:18 AM (permalink)
                                                          This is utterly crap.
                                                           
                                                          So what Cisco is trying to tell me is, I'm selling my privacy to you? No thanks. 
                                                           
                                                          Time to buy a ethernet hub. Cheap and off the so call "cloud"
                                                           
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                                                            Re:Cisco forces router users into the cloud Saturday, July 07, 2012 4:37 AM (permalink)
                                                            It is strange for them to have that in EULA,  it didn't take them long to back peddle saying "we don't track or monitor web habits".  Looks like people better keep a close eye on Cisco, they wouldn't of put that in EULA for no reason at all. 
                                                             
                                                             
                                                             
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