nForce 790i Ultra SLI randomly freezes / possible memory issue?

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deklax

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nForce 790i Ultra SLI randomly freezes / possible memory issue? Monday, June 18, 2012 10:01 PM (permalink)
Hi All,
 
In 2010 JeffreyHam helped me diagnose and fix a memory timing issue with my computer that was causing random hard resets.  He was able to help me get a machine that frustrated me greatly running smoothly.
 
Recently I had the smart idea to upgrade that same machine (from 32bit Vista) to the new Windows 8 RC x64, as well as install new memory and a fresh hard drive. I swapped out my old 2x2GB Patriot PDC34G1333LLK  DDR3 RAM with a pair of 2x4GB G.Skill Sniper F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR. The new memory was stable in Vista 32bit but only half was recognized (4gb). Windows 8 RC x64 recognizes all 8GB of course but unfortunately the machine freezes up every now and then and is generally unstable again.
 
I have been browsing this forum and others looking for a solution but have come up blank. I tried playing around with my timings and increasing the voltage to the memory but haven't been able to get the computer stable again. Any chance anyone has any ideas of what I could try next? Thanks in advance.
 
BIOS Version: P06
**System ** 
CPU Freq, MHz: 2.67 GHZ 
FSB Reference Clock, MHz: 1333.3
CPU Multiplier: [8X]
 PCle x16-1 & 16-2, MHz:  [100] 
PCle x16-3, MHz:  [100]
 SPPc->MCP Ref Clock, MHz:  [200] 
nForce SPP --> nForce MCP:   [5X] 
nForce SPP c-- nForce MCP:   [5X]
**Spread Spectrum** 
CPU Spread Spectrum: [Disabled] 
HT Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
PCle Spread Spectrurn(SPP): [Disabled]
PCle Spread Spectrurn(MCP): [Disabled] 
SATA Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
**FSB & Memory Config**
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: [unlinked] 
FSB - Memory Ratio:
FSB (QDR), MHz: [1333.3] 
Actual FSB (QDR), MHz: 1333.3 
x MEM (DDR),  MHz: 1333.3 
Actual MEM (DDR), MHz: 1333.3 
P1: [AUTO] 
P2: [AUTO] 
**Memory Timing Setting** 
Memory Timing Setting: [manual] 
tCL (CAS Latency): 9
tRCD: 9
tRP: 9
tRAS: 24
Command Per Clock: [2T] 
** Advanced Memory Settings ** 
tRRD: [Auto]
tRC: [Auto] 
tWR: [Auto] 
tWTR: [Auto] 
tFAW: [Auto] 
tREF: [Auto] 
tRFC: 
**System Voltages** 
CPU Core: [1.25] 
CPU FSB: [1] 
Memory: [1.55] 
nForce SPP: [1.45] 
nForce MCP: [1.55] 
GTLVREF Lane 0: [Auto]  
GTLVREF Lane 1: [Auto] 
GTLVREF Lane 2: [Auto]  
GTLVREF Lane 3: [Auto]  
**CPU Configuration** 
Limit CPUlD Maxval: Disabled 
Intel Speedstep: Disabled 
xPPM Mode: [Native] 
CPU Thermal Control: [Disabled] 
C1E Enhanced Halt State: [Disabled] 
Execute Disable Bit: [Enabled] 
Virtualization Technology: [Disabled] 
CPU Core 0: [Enabled] 
CPU Core 1: [Enabled] 
CPU Core 2: [Enabled] 
CPU Core 3: [Enabled] 
 
 
NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI MCP
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad  CPU   Q9450  @ 2.66GHz
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR
2x EVGA 512-P3-N873-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
WD Caviar Black 2 TB SATA Hard Drive ( WD2002FAEX)
<message edited by deklax on Monday, June 18, 2012 10:09 PM>
 
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    rscott521

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    Re:nForce 790i Ultra SLI randomly freezes / possible memory issue? Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:49 AM (permalink)
    Have you tried the memory voltage at 1.65 or higher?
    This is my 790i FTW. I'm not running SLI though:
    My Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104277
    http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8445/infoqp.jpg
    BIOS Version: sz16
    **System **
    CPU Freq, MHz: 3.825 GHZ
    FSB Reference Clock, MHz: 1700
    CPU Multiplier: [9X]
    PCle x16-1 & 16-2, MHz: [100]
    PCle x16-3, MHz: [100]
    SPPc->MCP Ref Clock, MHz: [200]
    nForce SPP --> nForce MCP: [5X]
    nForce SPP c-- nForce MCP: [5X]
    **Spread Spectrum**
    CPU Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
    HT Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
    PCle Spread Spectrurn(SPP): [Disabled]
    PCle Spread Spectrurn(MCP): [Disabled]
    SATA Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
    **FSB & Memorv Config**
    FSB - Memory Clock Mode: [linked]
    FSB - Memory Ratio: Synced
    FSB (QDR), MHz: [1700]
    Actual FSB (QDR), MHz: 1700
    x MEM (DDR), MHz: 1700
    Actual MEM (DDR), MHz: 1700
    P1: [AUTO]
    P2: [AUTO]
    **Memory Timing Setting**
    Memory Timing Setting: [Expert]
    tCL (CAS Latency): * 9
    tRCD: * 9
    tRP: * 9
    tRAS: * 24
    Command Per Clock: [2T]
    ** Advanced Memory Settings **
    tRRD: [Auto]
    tRC: [Auto]
    tWR: [Auto]
    tWTR: [Auto]
    tFAW: [Auto]
    tREF: [Auto]
    tRFC:
    **System Voltages**
    CPU Core: [1.41250]
    CPU FSB: [auto=1.5]
    Memory: [1.7]
    nForce SPP: [auto]
    nForce MCP: [auto]
    GTLVREF Lane 0: [Auto]
    GTLVREF Lane 1: [Auto]
    GTLVREF Lane 2: [Auto]
    GTLVREF Lane 3: [Auto]
    **CPU Configuration**
    Limit CPUlD Maxval: Disabled
    Intel Speedstep: Disabled
    xPPM Mode: [Native]
    CPU Thermal Control: [Disabled]
    C1E Enhanced Halt State: [Disabled]
    Execute Disable Bit: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology: [Disabled]
    CPU Core 0: [Enabled]
    CPU Core 1: [Enabled]
    CPU Core 2: [Enabled]
    CPU Core 3: [Enabled]
     
    Other Thoughts: Just upgraded to W7~64 from WXP~32.
    CPU=Intel QX6850
    MOBO=Evga 790i for the win
    PSU=Enermax Galaxy 1250w
    GPU=Evga GTX275
     
    <message edited by rscott521 on Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:17 AM>
     
     
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      Ryykk

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      Re:nForce 790i Ultra SLI randomly freezes / possible memory issue? Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:50 AM (permalink)
      Not sure, but  you are running a really old version of Bios.  You said you are on P06, well, I believe the current version is P10.  It includes P07, P08, P09, and P10.  I think this will make a difference.  To me it looks like you are trying to get it running smoothe on Stock settings.  If not, try to get it smoothe on stock before overclocking.  You can get the P10 Bios in the EVGA Download center.
      Mobo/Laptop: EVGA 790i Ultra (132-CK-NF79)       CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 Ghz 12M 1777FSB-OC'd @3.87 Ghz 
      RAM: 8GB-OCZ3X16004GK (4x2) LINKED AND SYNCED @ 9.9.9.32          Vid: 2-EVGA 460GTX SC P/N 01G-P3-1373-AR (SLI)     PSU: ANTEC HCG 900  SSD: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB   Chipset: NB 790i Ultra(SLI)    BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 10.00 PG        
      OS: Windows 7 x64 Pro             

       
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        VistaHead

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        Re:nForce 790i Ultra SLI randomly freezes / possible memory issue? Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:54 AM (permalink)
        You are running BIOS version P06....which is pretty old.  You may want to flash your BIOS.  Additionally, there is no guarantee that 4GB RAM modules will run on the 790i series boards.  Some run it well....some don't.  As I am sure that you are aware, the board "officially" supports 2GB RAM modules per slot.  I would install the 8GB modules in the black slots, and manually set the timings and voltage to the manufacturer's recommended settings.  If adjusting the timings and voltage up and down within a few settings of what the manufacture suggests does not work, it may be that your memory controller will not run 4GB modules of what you have purchased.
         
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          rscott521

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          Re:nForce 790i Ultra SLI randomly freezes / possible memory issue? Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:14 AM (permalink)
          VistaHead


          You are running BIOS version P06....which is pretty old.  You may want to flash your BIOS.  Additionally, there is no guarantee that 4GB RAM modules will run on the 790i series boards.  Some run it well....some don't.  As I am sure that you are aware, the board "officially" supports 2GB RAM modules per slot.  I would install the 8GB modules in the black slots, and manually set the timings and voltage to the manufacturer's recommended settings.  If adjusting the timings and voltage up and down within a few settings of what the manufacture suggests does not work, it may be that your memory controller will not run 4GB modules of what you have purchased.

           
          Yep, mine are in the black slots. This link was a bit of a help for me: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=127243&high=wanna+run+8gb

           
           
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            deklax

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            Re:nForce 790i Ultra SLI randomly freezes / possible memory issue? Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:49 PM (permalink)
            Thanks for the responses. I have read that thread about running 8GB on the 790i Ultra and it is helpful. I moved my sticks to the black slots after reading those posts.
             
            I had not tried going above 1.6V prior to my post since the manufacturers rated voltage was 1.5V for these sticks however I did try 1.65V just a minute ago and it still froze up after a few minutes.
             
            I am going to flash my BIOS and see if that has any effect on the issue. I am not sure what effect it could have but it is worth a shot.
             
            If it doesn't fix the problem, I will probably just buy the two memory sticks you linked rscott and see if I have better luck with them.
             
            I will let you guys know how it turns out!
             
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              danno428cj

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              Re:nForce 790i Ultra SLI randomly freezes / possible memory issue? Saturday, June 23, 2012 7:25 AM (permalink)
              You will have to run the memory voltage over the rated spec to get it to work on your board.
               
              don't worry, it won't hurt the ram
              <message edited by danno428cj on Saturday, June 23, 2012 7:31 AM>
              XFX 790i Ultra
              Q9650 C2Q @ 4.275 (475*9)
              XSPC 750 RS360 kit 
              4GB Corsair XMS3 PC-16000 (9-10-9-27) 1900mhz 1.75v 
              EVGA GTX 480 1600/2000 1.012v                      
              Gigabyte GTX 480 1600/2000 1.012v
              Silverstone Strider Gold 1000w
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                Sprinx

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                Re:nForce 790i Ultra SLI randomly freezes / possible memory issue? Monday, July 02, 2012 2:14 PM (permalink)
                I don't think that the 790i will play well with the RAM you bought. Very few people have been able to get low-voltage RAM to run dependably on the 790 series motherboards. I had trouble with 1.6 V ram, and you are trying to run 1.5 V RAM. That RAM is made for the newest chipsets (Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge/AMD AM3).
                 
                Check out this thread that I posted in (JeffreyHam was involved at the beginning of the thread, as well)
                http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&m=837038&mpage=4
                 
                I personally used Patriot PSD34G16002H, which are rated at 1.7 V. Currently, they are deactivated on Newegg.
                There was also a Kingston model KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX which was reported to work very well. They are rated at 1.65 V, which means that they should be able to be used with the newest chipsets if you ever upgraded. You should return the ones you bought and purchase these instead.
                KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX
                Currently $34.99 for 8 GB after mail-in rebate (49.99 regularly).
                http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104173
                There were some who were able to run 2 of those kits, for a total of 16 GB, but while incredibly awesome, this is not necessary and difficult to accomplish, from what they said. You had to flash the MB with an XFX brand BIOS instead of the EVGA BIOS.
                 
                Return the RAM you bought, if possible, and buy the Kingston KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX.

                Intel i5 750 2.67 GHz (@ 3.66) | EVGA P55 SLI | GSKILL 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3 2066
                EVGA GTX 680 SC | CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W 80+ PSU
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