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Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:25 PM (permalink)
Building a new rig...  Is there any real reason to spend $40.00 extra on the professional?
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    Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:38 PM (permalink)
    For the general consumer, Premium is good enough.
     
    However, for more information on further differences, see here (see the two tabs at the top; the third isn't a comparison between 7's flavors).
     
    Professional has a few more advanced features (networking, encryption, Windows XP VM, Backup, etc.) but chances you won't use them.  For $40 more, it's really up to you since it's not incredibly more than Premium.
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      Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:38 PM (permalink)
      there all the same more or less, they just hide or lock stuff down
      from what I seen/done  you can enable a lot of the stuff with some work
      just don't get starter, there's a lot of work involved in getting things to work like in other versions
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        Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:42 PM (permalink)
        The biggest difference IMO is the amount of RAM you can use, Win7 Premium limits you to 16GB where Pro can use up to 192GB.
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          Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:44 PM (permalink)
          I agree.

           

           
           
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            Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:49 PM (permalink)
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            The biggest difference IMO is the amount of RAM you can use, Win7 Premium limits you to 16GB where Pro can use up to192GB.

            I completely forgot about that one
            but not many of us need more the 16gb's and I'm not sure if you can work around that one
            I'm betting that's in the kernel
             
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              Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:53 PM (permalink)
              wow - im getting 16 gb right now... doesn't leave me much wiggle room for upgrade :/
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                Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:59 PM (permalink)
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                wow - im getting 16 gb right now... doesn't leave me much wiggle room for upgrade :/

                what do you need all that ram for ?
                if you need that much ram why use windows ?
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                  Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:01 PM (permalink)
                  I thought you had 24GB of RAM. If you're already RAM capped, get the other OS, or maybe grab a free alternative OS.  I have 12GB of RAM and I get low RAM warnings on a daily basis.  24GB seems nice right now. 


                   
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                    Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:03 PM (permalink)
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                      I have 12GB of RAM and I get low RAM warnings on a daily basis. 


                     
                    what do you guys do ????????????????????????
                    I do have 7 on my system and it idles at 750~800mb and loads at about  4.8gb
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                      Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:07 PM (permalink)
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                      I thought you had 24GB of RAM. If you're already RAM capped, get the other OS, or maybe grab a free alternative OS.  I have 12GB of RAM and I get low RAM warnings on a daily basis.  24GB seems nice right now. 


                      didn't you check your PM earlier? 

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                        Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:08 PM (permalink)
                        So many systems, I can't keep track :P
                         
                        as for what do I do: one word - Firefox.


                         
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                          Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:16 PM (permalink)
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                          wow - im getting 16 gb right now... doesn't leave me much wiggle room for upgrade :/

                          I just got done dealing with the same issue, I bought 3 of these kits and threw 6 sticks into each of our two X58 based systems so they both have 24GB now, but I had to upgrade them to Pro to be able to use it all.
                            
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                          The biggest difference IMO is the amount of RAM you can use, Win7 Premium limits you to 16GB where Pro can use up to192GB.

                          I completely forgot about that one
                          but not many of us need more the 16gb's and I'm not sure if you can work around that one
                          I'm betting that's in the kernel

                          Yeah, I don't think you can do anything about it, Windows Premium will see all of the memory that is installed but only report 16GB as usable.
                           
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                          I have 12GB of RAM and I get low RAM warnings on a daily basis. 


                          what do you guys do ????????????????????????
                          I do have 7 on my system and it idles at 750~800mb and loads at about  4.8gb

                          +1, what are you doing?, are you sure your system is configured properly?
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                            Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:17 PM (permalink)
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                            So many systems, I can't keep track :P

                            as for what do I do: one word - Firefox.


                            I never see it go over 600mb's
                            and that's with 10's of pages open and many vids and flash games running
                            right now I'm on my win7 lappy I have 3 pages open and FF 15.0a1 is only using 250mb's

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                              Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:22 PM (permalink)
                              firefox 12 here, 7 tabs open and about 30 other in inactive groups (not currently loaded), memory usage 330MB
                               
                              ... however with firefox 8-9 I used to see memory usage of around 1.3GB (!!!!) with similar number of tabs


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                                Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:23 PM (permalink)
                                I might have a bad stick or two of RAM,  I get applications crashing at around 9GB even though my system has 12GB.  Unless that is normal behavior.  I'm utilizing over 8GB of RAM right now and all I have running is IE FF and MS word.  Sometimes I leave MS flight idling 24/7, but that's only like 1.5GB of RAM.


                                 
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                                  Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:26 PM (permalink)
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                                  I might have a bad stick or two of RAM,  I get applications crashing at around 9GB even though my system has 12GB.  Unless that is normal behavior.  I'm utilizing over 8GB of RAM right now and all I have running is IE FF and MS word.  Sometimes I leave MS flight idling 24/7, but that's only like 1.5GB of RAM.

                                  something is not right, run memtest86 and clean your os out
                                  I ran game, FF, multiple Vbox, compiz and a lot of junk on a system with 4gb of ram
                                  I know it was on linux, but still
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                                    Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:29 PM (permalink)
                                    I barely see over 3GB RAM used no matter what I do ... however I usually do not leave games idling in background though ...
                                     
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                                      Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:32 PM (permalink)
                                      I also tend to have 200+ tabs open.  Perhaps I should have mentioned that earlier.  IE uses 100-500MB per tab as well...


                                       
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                                        Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:33 PM (permalink)
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                                        I might have a bad stick or two of RAM,  I get applications crashing at around 9GB even though my system has 12GB.  Unless that is normal behavior.  I'm utilizing over 8GB of RAM right now and all I have running is IE FF and MS word.  Sometimes I leave MS flight idling 24/7, but that's only like 1.5GB of RAM.

                                        My laptop has 6GB of RAM but I never get low memory warnings no matter what I am doing.
                                         
                                        What does your system properties show for the RAM installed?, Do you have your Windows virtual memory file turned off or set to a small size?
                                         
                                        Have you checked Windows Task Manager for extraneous running programs or to see what your memory usage looks like?
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                                          Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:38 PM (permalink)
                                          right now I have
                                           
                                          IE 3.5GB
                                          FF 1  GB
                                          and 4GB of OS and other services. 
                                           
                                          did you know that calc uses 12MB per instance?


                                           
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                                            Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:41 PM (permalink)
                                            Unless you plan on doing some serious video editing, 16GB should hold you over for like 5 years. I didn't see a need, saved my money and went with Home Premium.
                                             
                                             
                                             
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                                              Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:44 PM (permalink)
                                              That's what they said when I bought 12GB 3 years ago and I eat through it like Chinese buffet.  Buy a ton of ram, make a ram disk, slowly decrease its size as your RAM demands creep higher and higher.


                                               
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                                                Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:51 PM (permalink)
                                                You're using a RAM disk?
                                                 
                                                 
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                                                  Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:19 PM (permalink)
                                                  I rarely ever use more than 4Gb of RAM. Right now using 2.25Gb with 3 browsers open, playing videos on youtube, and a TON of processes. Only time I ever see mass RAM usage is when i'm editing photos.
                                                   
                                                   
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                                                    Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:30 PM (permalink)
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                                                    I rarely ever use more than 4Gb of RAM. Right now using 2.25Gb with 3 browsers open, playing videos on youtube, and a TON of processes. Only time I ever see mass RAM usage is when i'm editing photos.


                                                    Same here, only time I am using lots of RAM is when I'm editing/converting video.
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                                                      Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:50 PM (permalink)
                                                      I have 24 GB of ram on Windows 7 pro, But unless i am rendering or running a VM i rarely go above 6gb, I mainly got that much because it is pretty cheep right now.

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                                                        Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:36 PM (permalink)
                                                        heres something you guys are missing about this question
                                                         
                                                        they have found out that proffessional and especially ultimate actually slows down your machine with more goodies then premium does making premium more efficient and a better simple choice unless you need the added stuff
                                                             
                                                                           
                                                         
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                                                          Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:16 AM (permalink)
                                                          Fight slow down with more cycles, SSDs, and of course more RAM.


                                                           
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                                                            Re:Windows 7 Home premium (64) vs Professional (64) Wednesday, May 09, 2012 5:14 AM (permalink)
                                                            Whatever you go with make sure you unlock the master admin account..... Theres nothing like being a basic user on your own pc...
                                                             

                                                             
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