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Re:BOINC Pentathlon Sunday, May 06, 2012 4:21 PM (permalink)
Looking at some of the team stats, they're small and seem to be the one who loaded a buffer, were catching them.... Some also seem to send all the tasks at once so they get a big boost and then a bunch of zero hours....


 
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    Re:BOINC Pentathlon Sunday, May 06, 2012 5:09 PM (permalink)
    Let the Collatz begin...now!

    So yoyo and qmc with a complete overlap. Interesting. Do we split ourselves, or throw everyone at just one?

     

     
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      Re:BOINC Pentathlon Sunday, May 06, 2012 5:21 PM (permalink)
      I dont see an issue with either option, but I say we see how things look a day or two into wcg.... I plan to run both.... What happens if we decide to only push one and it just happens to be the same one other teams decide to only push? By running both, I can easily jump from one to the other if needed and we get points on both....


       
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        Re:BOINC Pentathlon Sunday, May 06, 2012 6:28 PM (permalink)
        I dont see an issue with either option, but I say we see how things look a day or two into wcg.... I plan to run both.... What happens if we decide to only push one and it just happens to be the same one other teams decide to only push? By running both, I can easily jump from one to the other if needed and we get points on both....


         
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          Re:BOINC Pentathlon Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:57 PM (permalink)
          What would be the best projects to chosse on Yoyo@home?
          And QMC=Quantum Monte Carlo?

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            Re:BOINC Pentathlon Sunday, May 06, 2012 11:09 PM (permalink)
            I'll have to look into it, some yoyo tasks take longer and are strange with completion and time estimates.... Qmc is quantum Monte Carlo, they take a few hours if I remember right....


             
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              Re:BOINC Pentathlon Sunday, May 06, 2012 11:23 PM (permalink)
              thanks, goes off creating accounts

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                Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 1:35 AM (permalink)
                Just for some info, my 920, I don't remember the oc at the time, either 3.6 or 3.8, at about 7 hours for 250 points per task for QMC to about 27 hours for 700ish points....  That is run time, cpu time is about 6 hours and 21 hours....  I've been throttling somewhat just because I use this system for school and stuff....
                 
                for yoyo, the same system, I can't see any task results, they've been too long ago.  For the harmonious trees tasks, my laptop is on pace to complete one in 5 hours.  ecm tasks are estimated on my 920 at about 90 hours, but that is all I can give.  I never really paid much attention to how long they run or the points.  I do know some seem like they aren't doing anything and will stay at 0% for awhile and jump to 20% and then to 40% and the time to finish increases until the completion updates and then it starts increasing again....  linuxrouter might have more input on yoyo than me....
                 
                Edit: for yoyo, I would avoid running a buffer of more than a day, the ecm tasks I got have a deadline of the 12th.
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                  Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 1:52 AM (permalink)
                  For yoyo, the muon tasks are the same as the standalone Muon1 client as far as I know.  A few of us have experience with them and they finish very quickly.  I would run it for a few hours and have 30 or 40 results using 8 threads on an i7 920 4.2GHz.
                                

                          

                   
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                    Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 9:10 AM (permalink)
                    I'm glad to move-on from Rosetta to Collatz.  Too many errors and what felt like "flakiness" for me with Rosetta across 4 different Rigs.  Even my Rig that is not overclocked could not process the WUs without some "Computational errors" reported.  Must be stuff that I'd have to do (tweaking or something) to get Rosetta happy with my machines, and I just didn't have the time or inclination.  But onward to Collatz GPU and I'm running WCG (CPU WUs) in the background too in advance of the next leg.

                     
                                                  

                           

                     
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                      Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 10:09 AM (permalink)
                      That´s a bummer there tex regarding rosetta. I´ve noticed those tasks are RAM hogs (~1 GB per instance). So I´ve turned down the cpu usage a bit. Leaving 1/2 cores free per rig 2600k with 8 GB and a 970 with 6 GB. Luckily so far I´m only having 2 errors. Also I´m running either stock or with only a very mild OC.
                       
                      And my problematic dying rig is holding up great on its last leg (read: working PCIe slot)

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                        Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 10:13 AM (permalink)
                        I (er my PC rather) like the Collatz tasks so much better also. The 550 takes about 8 minutes to complete the mini's, and ~1hr20mins for the regular ones. 580 does the mini's in about 2-3 minutes and the regulars take a little less than 35 mins. I'll put my CPU's on WCG tomorrow to give the Rosetta queue enough time to finish up before WCG.
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                          Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 11:35 AM (permalink)
                          I also had one rosetta task give me a computational error on my crunching rig that has had extensive stress testing, they were memory hogs as well.  On the other hand, I'm not as big into mathematical projects, but my GPU's plow through Collatz tasks like no other!  Good job so far everyone.  This is really a unique contest experience.
                                        

                                  

                           
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                            Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 11:57 AM (permalink)
                            Glad to hear Rosetta didn't give just me problems.  (not to mean I like when you all have problems!!)  ;)
                             
                            Collatz should be a ball!



                             
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                              Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 12:10 PM (permalink)
                              This feels like "Plundering the DC Vault" phase II
                               

                              and now decisions, decisions
                              I´m having a bigadv finish in ~3 hours. Should I swap it over to the pentathlon for a day or 2? And if, what project rosetta or wcg?


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                                Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 12:55 PM (permalink)
                                Well, I was trying to bring 3 more laptops onboard at work (I asked myself for permission), but Rosetta is only using 1 core? Any ideas? I'm leaving work in an hour, just hate to leave them only 25% utilyzed if they could do 100%  
                                  
                                 
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                                  Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 1:06 PM (permalink)
                                  Not 100% sure, but I sometimes see that if you bring a rig new to a project you often only get one task first, and then others start downloading as you go.
                                  You could also check if all cores are enabled in your boinc manger settings. Its the percentige about using the number of cpus.
                                  Sorry, but my boing manager is in my native language

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                                    Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 1:07 PM (permalink)
                                    Nevermind, guess I just needed to wait. Burnin on all cylinders now
                                    @Barbarossa
                                    Yeah, I guess that's what happened. My desktop at home almost immediately loaded up like 30 tasks, so was wondering why these laptops were only doing the 1 after like 5 minutes, but they're running fine now.
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                                      Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 1:42 PM (permalink)
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                                      My desktop at home almost immediately loaded up like 30 tasks, so was wondering why these laptops were only doing the 1 after like 5 minutes, but they're running fine now.

                                      I noticed the same thing on all of my Desktop Rigs.  It took at least 5mins (sometimes longer) to receive each download upon initial run of Rosetta.  I had to believe that was something unique with Rosetta because I don't see any lag on the WCG projects or some of the other Boinc Projects I've run.

                                       
                                                                    

                                             

                                       
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                                        Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 1:56 PM (permalink)
                                        Barbarossa

                                        I´m having a bigadv finish in ~3 hours. Should I swap it over to the pentathlon for a day or 2? And if, what project rosetta or wcg?


                                        I'm guessing that you're planning to run that Bigadv rig for CC 2012 and that you would need to have it switched over a few days ahead for that first Bigadv timing (assuming a 6903 or greater)?  My favorite Bigadv rig is currently running WCG (as of today) and will be dedicated to the Pentathlon until I get within striking distance of the CC start-date.  I plan to run rigs for both of the Challenges during the overlap and then 100% Folding thereafter.  If it were me, I'd be tempted to switch that Bigadv Rig of yours over to the Pentathlon for a few days...

                                         
                                                                      

                                               

                                         
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                                          Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 2:16 PM (permalink)
                                          Yeah, I´m heavily tempted, just don´t know if rosetta or already bunkering wcg. A second capable rig is already bunkering for wcg, I have to switch that one over early on the 14th.
                                          The rig in question only takes about 1 1/2 days for 8101/6903s, so switch over is sometime on the 14th.
                                           
                                          One more hour to think about it, and then a short night of sleep, its already 11 pm here

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                                            Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 5:52 PM (permalink)
                                            I think I have about 10 more Rosetta tasks waiting, started wcg already.... From my laptop mainly, I have about a page waiting validation.... It seems as I finish tasks on the laptop, the same number validate....

                                            It basically is plundering the vault again.... Yoyo and qmc will see somewhat of a boost from this....


                                             
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                                              Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 6:12 PM (permalink)
                                              I fired up Yoyo again, specifically Harminous trees. I was running that project for quite some time but stopped for a few weeks to concentrate on another project. For Harminous trees, keep in mind that sometimes the progress bar is not accurate. It may stick at a lower percentage but is actually still running okay. Just let the tasks finish.
                                               
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                                                Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 7:18 PM (permalink)
                                                Really? I didn't notice it when it ran on mynlaptop.. I know the ECM tasks do it....


                                                 
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                                                  Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 8:37 PM (permalink)
                                                  RHMash

                                                  Really? I didn't notice it when it ran on mynlaptop.. I know the ECM tasks do it....

                                                   
                                                  It happened randomly for me. Sometimes the progress looked normal and other times progress would hang around 1% for a day and then the task would complete.
                                                   
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                                                    Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 8:43 PM (permalink)
                                                    For anyone who prefers to run Yoyo in Linux, evolution and muon can be run in Linux but require wine since there is not a native Linux app available. Harminous Trees has a native Linux app and wine is not required for this application.
                                                     
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                                                      Re:BOINC Pentathlon Monday, May 07, 2012 9:44 PM (permalink)
                                                      We're slowly gaining in collatz.... With a hard enough hit in wcg, we should get a few ranks....

                                                      As far as yoyo/qmc.... I see more work being done for yoyo, I have a qmc task at 30ish% after 10 hours.... Not sure how long still everything takes to verify but I know the one harmonious tree task I did a few days back verified already....


                                                       
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                                                        Re:BOINC Pentathlon Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:06 AM (permalink)
                                                        This is so exciting in the Collatz race.
                                                        Its a constant back and forth with the russians and the AMD users

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                                                          Re:BOINC Pentathlon Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:07 PM (permalink)
                                                          Yeah Collatz is gonna be a photo finish for 16th place!
                                                           
                                                          Meanwhile Rosetta we're just fighting to hold onto 14th.  If we switch over too soon we may lose out to boinc.Australia.
                                                           
                                                          fwiw:  I finished a 2.5hr yoyo-harmonious trees wu this morning and already have credit for it(within 8hrs total)!  But now I am crunching a 2.5 hr and a 22hr wu!  They are both taking less than 1MB of ram each though.
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                                                            Re:BOINC Pentathlon Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:22 PM (permalink)
                                                            It appears that you can't assign WCG projects per device or profile. That's too bad, what if you have a mix of Win and Lin boxes and want to assign projects per device profile to optimize your output?

                                                             

                                                             
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