what is Quad Channel Memory?

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blkhackr

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what is Quad Channel Memory? Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:35 PM (permalink)
I've been looking to build a newerish system on a i5-2500k sandybridge platform with a z68 board, and I'm looking at 16gb of ram, now my question is when i search on newegg for 4x 4gb for 16gb ram i see quad channel sets, whats the difference between a quad channel and dual channel set, I've looked all over the net and I'm getting conflicting answers, some placed say they are made for the x79 or whatever boards, and some places say that they are just 2 matched pairs of dual channel memory... i need a real answer



 
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    Re:what is Quad Channel Memory? Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:40 PM (permalink)
    Well they are made for the x79. But yeah you can use them perfectly in z68 also! Basically you answered your question, in your last sentence. They're basically two sets of dual-channel, paired up.
     
    Basically quad-channel is four memory sticks paired up. Because they can all achieve the same exact timings, freq, and voltage. If you bought two sets of dual-channel. And their timings are slightly different on the package, then they might not match up perfectly.
     
    Like me for instance. On Black Friday, I bought a set of Quad-Channel G.SKILL Ripjaws. I used three of them for my x58, and I have one for backup, etc. The 3 I am using run perfectly fine at the rated specs, since none of them are mixed, and didn't come from seperate packages (batches).


     
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      Re:what is Quad Channel Memory? Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:29 AM (permalink)

      The answer to this question is a little complicated.  The "channel" status of memory doesn'tper se have anything to do with the memory itself: it has to do with how many dimms of ram can be read/written to by your CPU's (or on some boards, chipset's) memory controller.  
       
      For example socket 1155 cpu's have memory controllers that are "dual channel".  This means the following:
       
              A. The computer can effectively use 2 dimms of ram
                  simultaneously (and as a result)
       
             B.  you should install at least two dimms and you should always install in multiples of 2                 (i.e. 2 dimms, 4 dimms, 6dimms, 16 dimms . . . etc) and
       
              C. If you install less than two dimms (or not-identically spec'd dimms) or if you install                    an odd number, expect performance degradation (relative to what your memory
                  controller would be capable of if you matched its channels properly)
       
      There are also triple (x58) and quad (x79) channel memory controllers out there that get better memory bandwidth than dual channel because they can read three or four dimms simultaneously as opposed to only two.  However with triple channel you need to install at least three dimms and in multiples of three (3, 6, 9, 12, etc) and with quad channel in multiples of four (4, 8, 12, 16, .....)
       
      Q.
      So what does it mean when memory is advertised as being "quad channel"?  
       
      A.  It may mean any or all of the following:  
       
                                  A. It is a kit of four dimms
                                  B. It may have an xmp profile (xmp profiles allow dimms to run at their
                                   rated specs without you having to enter the timings, voltage and                                             clockspeed manually) that is compatible only with or especially with the x79
                                  cpu memory controllers
                                  C. It may have been tested by the manufacturer and been confirmed to run
                                      at its rated speed, timings and voltage in a quad channel configuration. 
       
      Q. So what happens if you put a "quad channel" ram kit into a dual channel platform (like socket 1155 / 1156, etc)?  
       
      A.  You will be running in dual channel, will not receive the benefits of quad channel vs dual channel (i.e. double memory bandwidth) but will not be penalized performancewise because 4 dimms is a multiple of 2 and therefore compatible with dual channel memory controllers without penalty.
       
      Q. So how can I run a quad channel kit in quad channel configuration? 
      A. Buy a motherboard that has or supports a cpu that has a quad channel memory controller?
       
      Q. Are there any other considerations I should be aware of when running a kit marketed as quad channel on a dual channel (sockets 775, 1155, 1156, some others) or triple channel (x58) channel system?
       
      A.
                  1. (applies to dual and triple channel): You may have to enter your voltages, timings and clockspeed manually because the XMP profile in the quad channel kit may not be compatible with your system.  If you know how to do this or think you can figure it out by tinkering or asking on the forums, this should not be a problem.
       
                  2. (applies to dual and triple channel): The ram may not have been tested to run in your configuration so you may have to run it at a slower / higher voltage / tighter timed setting.  It is also possible that you will be able to run it at better settings as well.  The point is: when they came up with its rated specs it was probably based on a test using it in its stated channel configuration.
       
                 3. (applies to triple channel): You will incur a performance penalty if you use four dimms.  You will have to waste one of them (to get it to three) or buy two more (to get it to six) to avoid the penalty.
       
      Q. What if I buy a triple or double channel kit for my quad channel sli system?
       
               A. You will suffer a performance penalty if you do not buy one extra (identical) dimm for the triple channel kit (to make it 4 dimms) or an extra (identical) double channel kit (to make it 4 dimms). It is also quite probable that you may have to lower its stated specs because those specs were based on tests with 2 or 3 dimms, not four.  Also, the xmp profile will probably be incompatible and you will have to enter settings manually.  
       
      SUMMARY: Other than XMP profiles and Spec testing there is no real difference in the actual dimms between double, triple and quad channel ram.  Make sure you insert the appropriate number of dimms into your motherboard based on your memory controller. If you need to rely on xmp profiles or want ram tested for your particular configuration, it is best to buy a kit marketed for your particular channel configuration.

       
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        Re:what is Quad Channel Memory? Thursday, January 05, 2012 11:01 AM (permalink)
        Only the CPU's memory controller decides how many channels to use, it isn't about the number of DIMMs installed in the system or whether you buy them as a kit or single DIMM.  A dual-channel kit just means it is sold in pairs, and thus only gauranteed (tested) as a pair.  Same with triple or quad channel kits, they make it easy to buy RAM for your system. 
         
        That said, there is no gaurnatee that getting a pair of dual-channel kits will work in quad-channel in X79 compared to a kit sold with four DIMMs.  But there shouldn't be trouble as long as the specifications match (since Sandy Bridge covers multiple sockets because it is a whole architecture, thus same RAM specs work).
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          Re:what is Quad Channel Memory? Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:28 PM (permalink)
           
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            Re:what is Quad Channel Memory? Thursday, January 05, 2012 8:42 PM (permalink)
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