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Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:44 PM (permalink)
Actually Id leave the 560 and put it under the TV (folding away)
and use it as a PVR and a game console in a pinch
 
 
   


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    Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:00 PM (permalink)
    Nice looking build you have there. Any chance you could put an all in one liquid cooler in there? It might help with the temps.
     


     
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      Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:04 PM (permalink)
      mobo came in today!


       
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        Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:54 AM (permalink)
        And the gpu...! Just need the CPU now....


         
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          Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:30 AM (permalink)
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          Nice looking build you have there. Any chance you could put an all in one liquid cooler in there? It might help with the temps.


          Oh yes, I thought of that very strongly.  I have a spare Corsair H80, but there isn't enough room where the 120mm fan is.  The HDD tray is up against the very top of the 120mm fan.  I could cut the tray out, but I don't want to damage a new case just yet.  One the problems with Intel's heatsink is its profile.  It is so low, that it hides completely behind the RAM sticks.  So with a taller heatsink, the cooling fins will be put directly into the 120mm fans airflow for high cooling capcity.
           
          I have a QX6700 rig by the TV now that I use to play internet videos on the big screen.  And GTX560 Ti belongs to my i7 930 rig.  I only put it in the Quartz rig to see if it will fit and work out.
              
           
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            Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Saturday, January 21, 2012 6:50 AM (permalink)
            Gave Quartz a little upgrade.  Had the GT420 rma'd do to overheating, got a new one back so it is now in Quartz as a folding GPU.  Should give at least 2,400 PPD boost to the cause.  But it won't be in there forever as I'm saving those EVGA bucks for something a little more powerful.
             
            I gave Quartz a second look as to weather to put a liquid cooling inside.  It is possible by either two methods.  A. Cut the 2.5" HDD down to size for everything to fit inside; B. Remove the 2.5" HDD completely and drill 4 holes or screw it to one of the side case vents; C. Mount the radiator inside and the 120mm fan outside of the case, removing the face plate.  After consideration, I then realized that the VReg MOFSET have no cooling fins.  So I'm going to stick with the Zalman CNPS8900 when it comes out to keep the Vreg chips cooled too.  This heatsink should lower the temps by at least 15*C, giving me room to overclock.
                
             
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              Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, January 30, 2012 4:13 PM (permalink)
              Did a huge upgrade to Quartz today.  Zalman released their CNPS8900 heatsinks, so I was quickly onboard and bought one from Newegg.com.  Got it in today and let me say that it is a very nice upgrade over the Intel stock boxed heatsink.  Using the same clock speed as before (2.8GHz), I'm already seeing an average of a 15*C drop in temperatures.  Peak temps are even lower with a 19*C drop.  With this much room now for overclocking, I should be able to hit 3.6-3.8GHz without going over the 65*C thermal setpoint limit.
              Results on i7 2600k (2.8GHz):
              Stock avg - 65*C
              Zalman avg - 48*C
              Stock peak - 69*C
              Zalman peak - 50*C
               


              Size does matter.
               



              Wasn't really a tight sqeeze.  Very easy to install.  The heatsink thou is a bit more massive than its stock counterpart.  So it over hangs on the memory sticks, but thats no problem.
               

              This is a problem.  The heatsink now hangs over the PCIe x16 slot.  So now I won't be able to use the GPU to fold.  But I do have a backhanded solution to the problem.  The case is design for double slot, but only one is blocked by the heatsink.  If I can find a PCIe x16 flexable ribbon, I will be able to use a single slot GPU card.
                  
               
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                Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, January 30, 2012 5:33 PM (permalink)
                 Now that is a big HS.
                 


                 
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                  Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, January 30, 2012 6:06 PM (permalink)
                  Thank you for the heatsink performance data!  I wanna put my itx-htpc in a case and this hsf should work nicely!
                   
                  I do not use one of these, but have bought other small odds and bits from this company from microcenter, that were alright.
                   
                  http://www.startech.com/Search?search_term=pci+express&autocomplete=&f_cable%20length%20m=0+M&ft_cable%20length%20m=text&fu_cable%20length%20m=&fd_cable%20length%20m=Cable%20Length%20%28M%29
                   
                  Others have said that PCIE x8 should not be a problem for folding on a single slot gpu.  but again I do not have actual experience, to be honest.
                   
                  thanks again for the thread log on your build!
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                    Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, January 30, 2012 6:59 PM (permalink)
                    I do use Startechs for those loose odds and ends.  In fact, I used a Startech slimline SATA/power adapter to get the dvd drive working in Quartz.  I was looking at the Startech's PCIe riser cards, same one in the link.  Only problem that I found with it is that its a 8x, not the 16x that I'm looking for.  Thou that doesn't mean it won't work.  All I have to do is cut a opening at the end of the slot so that I can fit a 16x in a 8x slot.  I know I can fold on a GPU card that is 16x in a 4x slot, done it before.
                     
                    A little bit more performance update.  I put the i7 2600k back to stock speeds (3.4GHz).  Average temps now seems to be around 58*C, with a peak of 61*C.  Still better than the stock heatsink which temps rose to 75*C.
                    Edit:
                    I found the PCIe 16x ribbion that I was looking for.  Found it on Amazon.com for around $5.  Just ordered it and will give it a try.
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                      Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, February 13, 2012 8:34 AM (permalink)
                       
                         


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                        Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, February 13, 2012 2:07 PM (permalink)
                        Xavier Zepherious


                        This might have made a much better folder for a small case

                        X79 mATX socket 2011
                        http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/display/20120117194922_Asustek_Packs_Power_of_Intel_Core_i7_Extreme_Processors_into_mATX_Form_Factor.html


                        Motherboard wouldn't work with the case.  Motherboard would have to be an mini ITX size, no ATX mobo would work.  Besides, Quartz has been doing fairly good so far.  Still waiting on the PCIe riser thou.  1st one was too big, 2nd one would work but its defective.  So I'm trying to get a 3rd one to replace the 2nd one.  And from reports that an Ivy Bridge is coming out for the 1155 socket and will support Z68 chipset leaves me with room to grow.  It would be a nice jump to go from 4 core to 8 core and not change much.
                            
                         
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                          Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, February 13, 2012 2:21 PM (permalink)
                           it is microATX Form-Factor
                          it might fit in yours - just cant use third  PCIE for a GPU 
                           

                           
                          notice you have a little bit of room for larger board
                           
                           
                          fits in this
                          http://www.directron.com/xqpack2bk500.html
                           
                           
                          Just heads up for those people who want small form factor boards
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                            Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, February 13, 2012 3:49 PM (permalink)
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                             Now that is a big HS.

                             
                            that's not a big heatsink.
                             
                            this is a big heatsink

                            mITX board with HR-02 cooler!!
                            Don't think it would fit in that case though.
                             
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                              Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, February 13, 2012 5:11 PM (permalink)
                               Where is the mobo? Nvm, I can just make it out.
                               


                               
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                                Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, February 13, 2012 6:47 PM (permalink)
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                                 it is microATX Form-Factor
                                it might fit in yours - just cant use third  PCIE for a GPU 



                                notice you have a little bit of room for larger board
                                 
                                 
                                fits in this
                                http://www.directron.com/xqpack2bk500.html


                                Just heads up for those people who want small form factor boards


                                Still won't fit.  Case is designed for ITX or DTX boards.  And the case in the link is larger than my rigs case.  Goal was as compact and powerful as possible.
                                    
                                 
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                                  Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, February 13, 2012 6:58 PM (permalink)
                                  there is a slight difference between the two cases - not much
                                   
                                  I agree you have a smaller case  - just by about 1 slot 
                                  some of the Micro-atx cases aren't much bigger than your mini itx case
                                  some have less Height as well 
                                   
                                  Just that if I was going small and efficient then X79 more efficient for work done ...although fixed cost higher
                                   
                                  You did a great job - except for heat sink ... you never checked that out before the purchase. 
                                  Seems a H70 would have done... it definitely could use a good WC system... quiet too
                                   
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                                    Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Monday, February 13, 2012 7:00 PM (permalink)
                                    It's a pretty sweet little rig too!
                                     
                                    Now if you could get a flexible PCIE cable that works and rig up a nice little mount for your GPU to sit on outside the case that would be sweet!
                                    Plus it would keep your CPU cooler, meaning MOAR overclock!
                                        


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                                      Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Sunday, February 19, 2012 4:14 PM (permalink)
                                      Just an update to this rig, been trying to get the PCIe riser cable thing to work.  Haven't had any good luck with it.  I found one that will work, but won't fit inside the case.  One that will fit inside the case, but doesn't work.  So I'm trying a third cable to see if that one will work and fit.
                                       
                                      Also found a BIOS flaw when overclocking.  Took me long enough to found it, but I can't fix it.  The problem is that when exceeding the stock clock speed, the clock speed bounces from the OC speed to the stock speed, and back again.  Like a ping pong affect.  And its not the Intel Step Speed thing or C states.  I've found a solution to it, but it doesn't help make it go any faster.  If I turn off the Hyper Threading, it will hold the OC speed.  With HT on, the clock speed ping pongs.  I still get more PPD with the ping pong effect, but probably 50% less than what I would have if it held its OC speed.  I'm not trying to aim for the moon, just a nice increase from 3.4GHz to 3.8GHz.
                                          
                                       
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                                        Re:Building another folding/crunching rig Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:32 PM (permalink)
                                        Not to hijack, but does anyone have contact with shdbcamping? I'm trying to find out if the w3520 and the h50 were ever sent out or if I should just go about trying to find another CPU and cooler....


                                         
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