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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:06 AM ( #31 )
I Approve!

Could you call a fascination with cat ears a furry?
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:02 AM ( #32 )
i guess you could. but i guess it depend and what kinda fascinatio it is. like do you like to wear them? or do you like to see other people with them?

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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:38 AM ( #33 )
Just for the record, I am neither for or against furries, and this is not to flame. I understand it's a personal preference and people are entitled to their personal preferences regardless of whether others may or may not find them offensive. To those who may assume that my statements are due to a lack of understanding what a furry is, then just know this... For the 5 years I was with my ex, I was and am still friends with her  brother who is a furry. During that time, he informed me in depth to the furry community and I attended no less than 3 Anthrocon conventions from 2003-2006. In addition to that, I often drove him to and attended various local gatherings.

So with that said, there is one thing I do have a problem with that I've notice many furries do (though this is not exclusive to just the furry community), and that is advertise their lifestyle to an extent that it feels as though there is some kind of agenda of forced acceptance. This seems to go on with little no regard for whether or not others may be offended by it. And be honest, those who are offended are generally offended by the sexual fetishism aspect of it, so it's not baseless since a big part of the community is open about this as well. But that's irrelevant because as I have said, I have no problems with that aspect. Sure, that may not be what your community is all about, but it's there and people have the right to be offended by it.

Many of us come to these forums because we all have a common interest, computers. Whatever lifestyle, political, or religious stance each of us may have generally remains to ourselves in part to the ToS. One thing I've always appreciated about these forums is how ambiguity is maintained in order to focus on primarily what each and every one of us presumably comes to these forums for. And I don't feel it's fair to others, that you would get a free pass on it. Because if someone else came on here starting threads promoting their agendas of race, political, spirituality, or sexuality; it would get locked in an instant because it's flame bait and it's against the ToS. It happened the last time you started a thread like this. Now you may have enlightened the previous perpetrator of drama, but what's to say someone else doesn't come along and start spewing anti-fur rhetoric turning this thread into yet another drama filled trainwreck? Now you start yet another thread about it in spite of what happened the last time which to some, it may appear that you are trolling.

You made very clear what you're about on the old forums. Why the need to do it on these, are you afraid we all forgot? Is the EVGA Furries sig not enough of a statement?

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Do not flame this thread! If you have a problem or a bad idea about it keep it to yourself. And try not to insult anybody here. The last thread was locked due to some members having there own bad idea about it and Flaming the thread to the point of deletion.


You might try following that for yourself and there would be no flaming in the first place. If this is the personal lifestyle that you claim it is, then treat it as such by not forcing it upon us. Don't say that's not the case because here you are on a public forum pushing a topic that only has something to do with yourself and a few others. But you're announcing it as though you're inviting the attention of everyone. Believe it or not most people don't hate furries because they are furries, it's because many of them feel the need to take it outside of their community to push for some sort of public acceptance. It's like it not enough to be a PC enthusiast interacting with fellow PC enthusiasts on the forum of a company that makes enthusiast grade hardware, but you feel the incessant need to cram the "furry" angle into as though it enhances it. Why not accept that not everyone is going to appreciate it, that in fact some may show outright hostility towards it? You don't see sigs for EVGA Gays, EVGA Conservatives, EVGA Muslims, or EVGA Necrophiliacs do you? Why? Because someone is going to be offended by it.

Now I know that even now after all I stated in the beginning of this reply, that you might think I'm some anti-fur, but I'm not. In fact I could care less. But I do recognize and accept your point of view in that being a furry is a lifestyle and I will treat this thread the same way I would treat any thread promoting a similar lifestyle/political/religious agenda.


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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 3:57 AM ( #34 )
I see what you say, but even i almost take offence to that.
I commend BK for putting this up
Personally, threads like this give me a sense of community, more so almost a sense of family.
It give me a feeling that people here can be open and talk about whatever they think, rather then be restricted to "computer enthusiast" only.



Oh and one more, If i did see a "EVGA Gays, EVGA Conservatives, EVGA Muslims" i would commend then too.
However "EVGA Necrophiliacs" i don't, not only is it wrong...its illegal. 
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:02 AM ( #35 )
Back to topic, I think i like to see them moreso then wear.
But that may be due to the fact they just dont fit my head right.


Ive been doing research into furries all night.
I do believe i could see myself going to a convention, and maybe even in costume.
Anime conventions are getting lamer and lamer around here anyway lol

Though i must say, I defiantly a Raver first.

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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:37 AM ( #36 )
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Just for the record, I am neither for or against furries, and this is not to flame....

You might try following that for yourself and there would be no flaming in the first place. If this is the personal lifestyle that you claim it is, then treat it as such by not forcing it upon us. Don't say that's not the case because here you are on a public forum pushing a topic that only has something to do with yourself and a few others. But you're announcing it as though you're inviting the attention of everyone. Believe it or not most people don't hate furries because they are furries, it's because many of them feel the need to take it outside of their community to push for some sort of public acceptance. It's like it not enough to be a PC enthusiast interacting with fellow PC enthusiasts on the forum of a company that makes enthusiast grade hardware, but you feel the incessant need to cram the "furry" angle into as though it enhances it. Why not accept that not everyone is going to appreciate it, that in fact some may show outright hostility towards it? You don't see sigs for EVGA Gays, EVGA Conservatives, EVGA Muslims, or EVGA Necrophiliacs do you? Why? Because someone is going to be offended by it.
 
First of all, understand that burning_kittins asked for approval from EVGA prior to reposting this thread.  While EVGA does not advocate for or against the furry community, this thread breaks none of the rules on this forum.  Second, I saw nothing in this thread that "forced" a furry "lifestyle" upon you or anyone, and it can only be read in that manner if one already has his/her opinion made up before reading.  Contrary to what your logic might suggest, this is, in fact, a public forum, and people can create threads so long as they do not violate the TOS.  The fact that someone calls attention to a problem, group, article, or anything has never been a reason for treating a thread any different on this forums.  If we didn't want people to pay attention to our requests for help, information, topics that are interesting or funny, or any other topic, then people wouldn't post threads in the first place.  The EVGA forums is a diverse community because there are a wide variety of interests, hardware, software, culture, and people permeating threads; it is foolish to think that one group deserves special treatment because some members disagree with a member's viewpoints.

Why not accept that not everyone is going to appreciate it, that in fact some may show outright hostility towards it?

If that's the case, then we should eliminate the right for members to post pro-ATI articles in the Hardware/Software News forum, because it clearly evinces "outright hostility."  We do that, however, and this forum becomes less informed, which degrades the quality of our forums and members.  I could point out many other examples that illustrate why that point is unworkable, but you seem to be missing the point.  The issue with the previous thread was that not only did members show outright hostility towards furries, but they violated the TOS several times over in the course of doing so.  That hasn't happened yet, but I will not be in a pleasant mood if it happens again.  If someone can provide an opposing view in this thread without breaking the TOS, then I'm certainly not going to stop them.  To that extent, burning_kittens may be asking a little too much.

But I do recognize and accept your point of view in that being a furry is a lifestyle and I will treat this thread the same way I would treat any thread promoting a similar lifestyle/political/religious agenda.

In that case, remember that the TOS specifically prohibits only political and religious topics, and if you see that here, then kindly report it to the moderators.  However, there is nothing in the TOS that covers lifestyle, save that there is to be no mention of illegal activity, and that members may not post political or religious content.  If you feel offended by something that is not prohibited by the TOS, then please bring it to the attention of a moderator, or choose to read a different thread.
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:40 AM ( #37 )
100% Agreed!!!
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:21 AM ( #38 )
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Just for the record, I am neither for or against furries, and this is not to flame....

You might try following that for yourself and there would be no flaming in the first place. If this is the personal lifestyle that you claim it is, then treat it as such by not forcing it upon us. Don't say that's not the case because here you are on a public forum pushing a topic that only has something to do with yourself and a few others. But you're announcing it as though you're inviting the attention of everyone. Believe it or not most people don't hate furries because they are furries, it's because many of them feel the need to take it outside of their community to push for some sort of public acceptance. It's like it not enough to be a PC enthusiast interacting with fellow PC enthusiasts on the forum of a company that makes enthusiast grade hardware, but you feel the incessant need to cram the "furry" angle into as though it enhances it. Why not accept that not everyone is going to appreciate it, that in fact some may show outright hostility towards it? You don't see sigs for EVGA Gays, EVGA Conservatives, EVGA Muslims, or EVGA Necrophiliacs do you? Why? Because someone is going to be offended by it.
 
First of all, understand that burning_kittins asked for approval from EVGA prior to reposting this thread.  While EVGA does not advocate for or against the furry community, this thread breaks none of the rules on this forum.  Second, I saw nothing in this thread that "forced" a furry "lifestyle" upon you or anyone, and it can only be read in that manner if one already has his/her opinion made up before reading.  Contrary to what your logic might suggest, this is, in fact, a public forum, and people can create threads so long as they do not violate the TOS.  The fact that someone calls attention to a problem, group, article, or anything has never been a reason for treating a thread any different on this forums.  If we didn't want people to pay attention to our requests for help, information, topics that are interesting or funny, or any other topic, then people wouldn't post threads in the first place.  The EVGA forums is a diverse community because there are a wide variety of interests, hardware, software, culture, and people permeating threads; it is foolish to think that one group deserves special treatment because some members disagree with a member's viewpoints.

Why not accept that not everyone is going to appreciate it, that in fact some may show outright hostility towards it?

If that's the case, then we should eliminate the right for members to post pro-ATI articles in the Hardware/Software News forum, because it clearly evinces "outright hostility."  We do that, however, and this forum becomes less informed, which degrades the quality of our forums and members.  I could point out many other examples that illustrate why that point is unworkable, but you seem to be missing the point.  The issue with the previous thread was that not only did members show outright hostility towards furries, but they violated the TOS several times over in the course of doing so.  That hasn't happened yet, but I will not be in a pleasant mood if it happens again.  If someone can provide an opposing view in this thread without breaking the TOS, then I'm certainly not going to stop them.  To that extent, burning_kittens may be asking a little too much.

But I do recognize and accept your point of view in that being a furry is a lifestyle and I will treat this thread the same way I would treat any thread promoting a similar lifestyle/political/religious agenda.

In that case, remember that the TOS specifically prohibits only political and religious topics, and if you see that here, then kindly report it to the moderators.  However, there is nothing in the TOS that covers lifestyle, save that there is to be no mention of illegal activity, and that members may not post political or religious content.  If you feel offended by something that is not prohibited by the TOS, then please bring it to the attention of a moderator, or choose to read a different thread.


Point taken, I just thought history was repeating itself so to speak. But since you guys are on top of it, that's all that matters as far as I'm concerned. After what happened last time this just kind of irked me and it seemed as if the OP was opening up the same bag of unpleasantness from before. But if you guys are okay with it, then so am I.

So in light of that, @BK

Sorry for gettin all preemptive on ya there buddy.


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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:28 AM ( #39 )
Thanks for understanding, Zen.  We all keep close eyes on threads that have the potential for problems, and in light of what happened last time, we're certainly staying on top of this one.  There should be no reason that the mods will need to come into this thread, but we'll be here if we're needed.
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:34 AM ( #40 )
Well I really never understood what this was about to begin w/ other than the colorful banners on the sig..however, I'm not seeing anything that's offensive or bothersome. From the other posts of the OP, he has always seeme like a fun & light hearted person  . So have fun w/ it..
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:35 AM ( #41 )
Remember the time-honored line
"Don't knock it til you try it"
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:43 AM ( #42 )
I hope that's not geared toward me... Cuz I was in no way knocking furries.


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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:47 AM ( #43 )
nope not toward you  heheh
i think i may even attend that event in pittsburgh.
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:10 AM ( #44 )
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haven't we done this already


Yeah..I have a feeling that this will head the same way as the last posts..oh well..


Nope this thread isn't going to end the same way the others did.  EVGA's not going to let that happen this time, and I'm not gonna let it happen either.   I've gotten to know Burning_Kittens and anything he wants to post is fine with me.  I am just one EVGA member and BK is a cool guy and he helps anyone for any reason they might need help when he can. 
 
This thread is P1G approved.  And me being the one who thought the other EVGA furries thread was a troll thread, I blindlessly flamed it to lockage and deletion.  I've already appologized cause I felt bad about the whole thing.
 
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:39 AM ( #45 )
hi, my name is WD and i like to hunt furries in the Summer.

j/k

Glad that Nordic made some good point clear!

BK didnt start the other threads in the old forum and had previous approved from some unknown mighty master....

I like this thread, so i can learn more about furries, never heard about them before but Hello Kitty taught me all i need to now!


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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:45 AM ( #46 )
omr evga furries do want! SIGN ME UP! lols

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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:01 AM ( #47 )
Id love a sig ;)
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:10 AM ( #48 )
if you guys want a sig, PM nova Fox Mutt!

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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:29 AM ( #49 )
i think you need to blame the music video "Bad Touch" by uh whats their names for the bad rep on furries

anyway i dont really like wearing fur i prefer to hug!

*hugs everyone here*

so does that make me a huggy? or huggler?

hmm theres no designation of what someone is if they enjoy hugs =(

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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:07 PM ( #50 )
lol. its ok!
I like hugs!!
Comes with being a raver.

OH, i know, you can be a raver too! there hugs all around!
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:07 PM ( #51 )
Thread is unclean.

Reminds me of the kid in high school who told me I was a furry because I played star fox.  Group of people with agenda attempt to re-classify an entire genre of art and history then pigionhole it into a term with near universal negative connotations.
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:12 PM ( #52 )
I uhh.....ummmm
If you dont like it dont post here?

Really now, have you ever been a part of it?
Have you any idea about it? 
Or do you just jugde it?
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:25 PM ( #53 )
i think he goes by the Normally known furries andnot the 90% other furries
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:15 PM ( #54 )
i think furries are adorable
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 5:29 PM ( #55 )
Well Thank you......i think....lol
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 7:29 PM ( #56 )


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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:30 PM ( #57 )
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:59 PM ( #58 )
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Just for the record, I am neither for or against furries, and this is not to flame. I understand it's a personal preference and people are entitled to their personal preferences regardless of whether others may or may not find them offensive. To those who may assume that my statements are due to a lack of understanding what a furry is, then just know this... For the 5 years I was with my ex, I was and am still friends with her  brother who is a furry. During that time, he informed me in depth to the furry community and I attended no less than 3 Anthrocon conventions from 2003-2006. In addition to that, I often drove him to and attended various local gatherings.

So with that said, there is one thing I do have a problem with that I've notice many furries do (though this is not exclusive to just the furry community), and that is advertise their lifestyle to an extent that it feels as though there is some kind of agenda of forced acceptance. This seems to go on with little no regard for whether or not others may be offended by it. And be honest, those who are offended are generally offended by the sexual fetishism aspect of it, so it's not baseless since a big part of the community is open about this as well. But that's irrelevant because as I have said, I have no problems with that aspect. Sure, that may not be what your community is all about, but it's there and people have the right to be offended by it.

Many of us come to these forums because we all have a common interest, computers. Whatever lifestyle, political, or religious stance each of us may have generally remains to ourselves in part to the ToS. One thing I've always appreciated about these forums is how ambiguity is maintained in order to focus on primarily what each and every one of us presumably comes to these forums for. And I don't feel it's fair to others, that you would get a free pass on it. Because if someone else came on here starting threads promoting their agendas of race, political, spirituality, or sexuality; it would get locked in an instant because it's flame bait and it's against the ToS. It happened the last time you started a thread like this. Now you may have enlightened the previous perpetrator of drama, but what's to say someone else doesn't come along and start spewing anti-fur rhetoric turning this thread into yet another drama filled trainwreck? Now you start yet another thread about it in spite of what happened the last time which to some, it may appear that you are trolling.

You made very clear what you're about on the old forums. Why the need to do it on these, are you afraid we all forgot? Is the EVGA Furries sig not enough of a statement?

burning_kittins


Do not flame this thread! If you have a problem or a bad idea about it keep it to yourself. And try not to insult anybody here. The last thread was locked due to some members having there own bad idea about it and Flaming the thread to the point of deletion.


You might try following that for yourself and there would be no flaming in the first place. If this is the personal lifestyle that you claim it is, then treat it as such by not forcing it upon us. Don't say that's not the case because here you are on a public forum pushing a topic that only has something to do with yourself and a few others. But you're announcing it as though you're inviting the attention of everyone. Believe it or not most people don't hate furries because they are furries, it's because many of them feel the need to take it outside of their community to push for some sort of public acceptance. It's like it not enough to be a PC enthusiast interacting with fellow PC enthusiasts on the forum of a company that makes enthusiast grade hardware, but you feel the incessant need to cram the "furry" angle into as though it enhances it. Why not accept that not everyone is going to appreciate it, that in fact some may show outright hostility towards it? You don't see sigs for EVGA Gays, EVGA Conservatives, EVGA Muslims, or EVGA Necrophiliacs do you? Why? Because someone is going to be offended by it.

Now I know that even now after all I stated in the beginning of this reply, that you might think I'm some anti-fur, but I'm not. In fact I could care less. But I do recognize and accept your point of view in that being a furry is a lifestyle and I will treat this thread the same way I would treat any thread promoting a similar lifestyle/political/religious agenda.


closet fur.....sad

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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:02 PM ( #59 )
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ZenDigital

  I saw nothing in this thread that "forced" a furry "lifestyle" upon you or anyone


It was posted so he has to read it then do what it says :)
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Re:EVGA Furries. - Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:28 PM ( #60 )
ZenDigital


I hope that's not geared toward me... Cuz I was in no way knocking furries.


hey dude its cool! you didn't say anything bad about them. you jest brought up what happened with the old thread and your own oppinion on it.
so your still cool in my book.

eppopipe


Id love a sig ;)


NovaKitFox is the dude you want to talk to if you want a Sig.


hateyermorals666


i think furries are adorable


why thank you!
that seems to be what alot of people think.


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what are you doing to my ears

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