windows 8 what odumbo wants for you

News Alert....Microsoft is giving Windows 8 away free to all W7 and Vista owners!  That would make me change but since that surely isn't going to happen....W7 ****.
 
Seriously though I use the Start Menu all the time.  I just prefer a neat desktop thus I don't like stuff pinned to it.  At any rate, if I can score W8 for about $50 or even free than why not.     

If I want to access a regularly used program, I use a pinned icon. I hate having icons on my desktop. If I need to access the control panel, network settings, etc I automatically hit the start button. Way to go Microsoft. Think I'll stick to the 7 ship until it sinks. Now I understand the hold-out XP users.

Ultimately, people are creatures of habit. Human engineering changes on this level with Windows 8 are irrational. I think this is another brain fart "change is good" idea. Change for change sake is not a good thing. You need to have some pretty sound reasoning to trip up people's habits with unintuitive interface concepts.
 
It definitely doesn't help when the average person is dumb as a rock with computers. They have problems finding the power button as is. Throw a totally new interface at them and their brain will explode. Just think of all those friends and relatives you guys will have to reteach how to use Windows. Makes me glad Microsoft's offices in Greece were firebombed.

I am not looking forward to this at all. Change for the sake of change is indeed just dumb... whatever. Windows 7 is and will be for a long time from now on a great gaming OS.

Been useing it for weeks, on laptop. hate it, win 7 for 5 year's for me.
Rolled back to win 7. boo M$

I won't be upgrading to W8.. I can't stand it. its worse than ME ever was and I kinda liked ME.
 

feniks


metro sucks for desktops, however so far I heard that it can be disabled (just like aero) and the whole windows return to the classic 2000/xp/2003 era ... so what happened to it if they cut out the start menu from the whole OS now?

ridiculous.

 
Metro can be disabled with a registry hack, but doing so causes a lot of stuff to not work properly or at all since they are so heavily dependent on metro. 

Porpoise Hork


I won't be upgrading to W8.. I can't stand it. its worse than ME ever was and I kinda liked ME.

feniks


metro sucks for desktops, however so far I heard that it can be disabled (just like aero) and the whole windows return to the classic 2000/xp/2003 era ... so what happened to it if they cut out the start menu from the whole OS now?

ridiculous.

Metro can be disabled with a registry hack, but doing so causes a lot of stuff to not work properly or at all since they are so heavily dependent on metro. 

 
Sounds like purposeful design on Microsoft's part. Wouldn't surprise me one bit. It would be their way of saying "Deal with Metro suckers!". Then again seems companies are doing dirty tricks like this more than ever.

Microsoft: You are the reason why we killed the start menu Windows 8 adoption rate.

 
There, I fixed it.

I loaded it on my P55 rig and have had fun playing around with it.  However upgrading to it?  Um, most likely not until I have NO choice.  I'll stick with 7 until the cows come home.

Anyone have actual benchmark test results to show real difference other than the "don't like"? I found 8 DP already to have more reliable support for devices, USB3, plug/unplug devices and printers, support for two monitors and having it work right when one monitor was missing.
Recovery time or no need to and less of the "not responding" so taking less time for the rarer web page issue or Explorer "green bar."
More stable and resume from sleep or even turn off power and still boot/resume from where it left off.
Alerting and tracking disk errors and if a scan or repair is needed.
Yes it is a shock to the nervous system. That goes away. And don't even think or try to use those Metro style apps. Some things though even in the IE10 Metro version seem to work better.
Metro is great for those whose eyeglasses don't help as much as they use to, it is easier to read web pages and other text than Windows 7 or Desktop apps no matter how well you adjusted dpi, text and resolution. So for those who have trouble and getting on in years you may welcome Metro.
 

Mac_vista64

Metro is great for those whose eyeglasses don't help as much as they use to, it is easier to read web pages and other text than Windows 7 or Desktop apps no matter how well you adjusted dpi, text and resolution. So for those who have trouble and getting on in years you may welcome Metro.

Translation :
if you're a retarded end-user with no freaking clue what this whole "interweb" thing is about, then W8 is for you. lol.

I used Win8 on my girls laptop for a little bit, there was no way in hell I was installing it on my rig, and I did not like it one bit, seems to be a lot more like Vista than anything, with all this new GUI crap. Seems to use a ton more resources than Win7 as well, I will be staying with Win7 as long as I possibly can. They will probably pull some crap like having DX12 only available on systems running Windows 8, pretty much like they did with 10 on Vista.

I actually never pin anything, I like to keep my desktop looking clean. Not gonna hurt to take a second and find what I need via the start menu. I mean the fact that they took it out and then made sure you couldnt install your own is just a slap in the face to people who do like it.

Sapphire, im with you there, clean desktop and only like 2 or 3 things on my  bar at the bottom.  I organize my start menu (much prefered how it worked in older OS's, takes longer in 7 IMHO) and everything is good that way.  Hate the cluttered desktops I see with so many people, and so far, BIG NO to Windows 8.

It would be a bummer if all those services were inefficient and used background resources. But. I cannot. Find. Any sign that they are.
Can't teach an olde dog new tricks huh?

Let's stop to think, removing a feature that has been in use for 20 years, was an iconic symbol of M$, and not allowing it to be a selectable option,, is not really the best of business descisions.

Simba123


I think Win7 is going to turn into the new Win XP.  People will stick with it long past its used by date because the newer OS is just crap.

Honestly, the desktop PC uses a mouse, not a touch pad.  I know you can buy touch pads for PCs, but who wants to have both a mouse and a touch pad??

They should have a mobile/tablet version and a desktop version (with a start menu). 

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and they came to this conclusion while talking to user in Amsterdam*spicole voice* Dude what a great ideal, ya have a pizza?

Stupid Microsoft. I love the start menu as it is in 7. The searchable part is the best to.

blacksapphire08


I actually never pin anything, I like to keep my desktop looking clean. Not gonna hurt to take a second and find what I need via the start menu. I mean the fact that they took it out and then made sure you couldnt install your own is just a slap in the face to people who do like it.

EVGATech_DaveB


Sapphire, im with you there, clean desktop and only like 2 or 3 things on my  bar at the bottom.  I organize my start menu (much prefered how it worked in older OS's, takes longer in 7 IMHO) and everything is good that way.  Hate the cluttered desktops I see with so many people, and so far, BIG NO to Windows 8.

 
 
This. I have NO DESKTOP ICONS and 3 icons pinned to my taskbar. Chrome, Itunes, Explorer. I always go through the start menu to look for it.
 
I can't say it like i've used Windows 8. But Honestly. It's innovative and people don't like change. Everyone will slowly grow into it. Like some people said in this thread. 
 
If you look around the "OMG its all gone. All that is left is a stupid tablet GUI." It actually useful. People could and most likely will make it so you can have things show up on it. Such CPU/GPU temp etc. You are one button away. 
 
I WILL buy windows 8, And will relearn it. it takes maybe a week max. And then i'll love it. I've used a lot of different OS's. OSX, Linux, windows. Honestly. Windows doesn't feel special in any way. It's only being used as it's super popular. Linux you feel more connected to the OS. OSX, It's simple everything is there out in the open.
 
You don't succeed if you don't take risk. That's what Microsoft is going. it always takes more than one revision for them to take it. Like vista to 7. Me to xp. 
 
The way I see it is Microsoft won't go back to the traditional start menu. So better get used to it now. Or you be like the XP users now. Because they don't like change.

babyballa

blacksapphire08


I actually never pin anything, I like to keep my desktop looking clean. Not gonna hurt to take a second and find what I need via the start menu. I mean the fact that they took it out and then made sure you couldnt install your own is just a slap in the face to people who do like it.

EVGATech_DaveB


Sapphire, im with you there, clean desktop and only like 2 or 3 things on my  bar at the bottom.  I organize my start menu (much prefered how it worked in older OS's, takes longer in 7 IMHO) and everything is good that way.  Hate the cluttered desktops I see with so many people, and so far, BIG NO to Windows 8.

This. I have NO DESKTOP ICONS and 3 icons pinned to my taskbar. Chrome, Itunes, Explorer. I always go through the start menu to look for it.

I can't say it like i've used Windows 8. But Honestly. It's innovative and people don't like change. Everyone will slowly grow into it. Like some people said in this thread. 

If you look around the "OMG its all gone. All that is left is a stupid tablet GUI." It actually useful. People could and most likely will make it so you can have things show up on it. Such CPU/GPU temp etc. You are one button away. 

I WILL buy windows 8, And will relearn it. it takes maybe a week max. And then i'll love it. I've used a lot of different OS's. OSX, Linux, windows. Honestly. Windows doesn't feel special in any way. It's only being used as it's super popular. Linux you feel more connected to the OS. OSX, It's simple everything is there out in the open.

You don't succeed if you don't take risk. That's what Microsoft is going. it always takes more than one revision for them to take it. Like vista to 7. Me to xp. 

The way I see it is Microsoft won't go back to the traditional start menu. So better get used to it now. Or you be like the XP users now. Because they don't like change.

 
Conversely, it's only super popular because it's being used;)

Johnny_Utah


Conversely, it's only super popular because it's being used;)

 
Lol well, its because of the app, driver, etc support. If somehow one day that gets taken for microsoft. How many people would just ditch windows?

I can not stand a cluttered desktop either, the only two icons that are on my desktop are the Recycle Bin and Afterburner. Everything else is on my task bar or start menu. Why would you do this Microsoft? Way too force your new ideas to people who want nothing to do with it, I am sure DX12 will only be available on Win8, whenever it does come out.

I don't need no stinking Start Menu!  Just give me a taskbar and I am set!
 
Then we have this: http://www.howtogeek.com/...-taskbar-in-windows-8/

I think the Start Menu is iconic only to Microsoft in a way.  Removing it is like removing a chunk of Microsoft's soul.  I find this to be problematic and unbeneficial to Microsoft's cause to re-earn revenue returns for an updated version of Win OS...
 
Personally, I use the Start Menu out of bad habit to look at my storage drives or check Microsoft free-online games like Sudoku, or look up files if I didn't make shortcuts for them.  I mostly have shortcuts for PC Games, files, notes, MS Visual, vid, and editing tools.
 
Doubt I'll update to Win8 unless their's a really good reason to do it.

MSim
 

Microsoft should make different versions, that way people who want a start-button or want it to be like normal windows would still buy it.

I don't see Win8 offering anything for me.

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