3930k and Bigadv?

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Xavier Zepherious

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3930k and Bigadv? Saturday, June 23, 2012 6:25 PM (permalink)
Which is better?
using v7 and windows..... or going linux 
 
is it even possible to get them using v7 in windows?
is it necessary to set bigbeta for it (
 
 
   


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    texinga

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    Re:3930k and Bigadv? Saturday, June 23, 2012 7:30 PM (permalink)
    Linux for sure, you won't get them with Windows (or at least I never could after the change last Nov/Dec).  Run your 3930K on up to 4Ghz or better and use the -Bigbeta argument instead of -Bigadv (works better for most people for some reason).  I'm processing 6901s, 6903s and occasionally a 6904 on my hexa (980X at 4Ghz) and finishing all well ahead of the deadlines for bonus points.  I'm running Ubuntu 11.04, but you can use Mint12, and others too.
     
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      Xavier Zepherious

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      Re:3930k and Bigadv? Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:14 PM (permalink)
      Yes... on a side note the 2nd rig is back up and folding
       
      I don't know how accurate v7 is but estimated PPD is like 71k
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        Re:3930k and Bigadv? Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:48 PM (permalink)
        Use this link to a guide on setting up -bigadv folding with Ubuntu.
        http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1601608
        Just rember when you set your flags to use -bigbeta instead of -bigadv. Otherwise you will get the substandard 8108 WU's instead of the 69XX series which give better PPD and can be copleteted on time by intel systems. Just a note on using Ubuntu, if you try to install it as a dual boot with windows you will not be able to set it to file ext3 like the guide shows. If you do a fresh install then you will be able to.
        Edit: all you need is the OS and thekraken installed. You really do not need the rest of the add ons.
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          Xavier Zepherious

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          Re:3930k and Bigadv? Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:36 PM (permalink)
          for me...yes I do...
          Im a past linux user, so having bells and whistles is nice
           
          I like tinkering and developing software - since I used to do it for x11
           
          I'll look into setup for linux, after I run a batch under v7 and win7
           
             


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            Re:3930k and Bigadv? Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:44 PM (permalink)
            Sorry to intrude, but I'm just curious. How many PPD can you expect on a 3930K? I'm a bit enticed on an offer my friend is making me on one.

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              Re:3930k and Bigadv? Saturday, June 23, 2012 10:22 PM (permalink)
              well, I was doing 50K on the gpu tracker without bigadv
              I snagged a couple of bigadv with it with over 100k each
               
              it does as well as a 2600k and 2 fermi gpu's on straight SMP
              (with less power used)
               
              Im going to snag another 3930k this month for 3rd rig
              maybe retire the Q6600
               
                 


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                Re:3930k and Bigadv? Sunday, June 24, 2012 4:57 AM (permalink)
                From what I've read, you can skip using "The Kraken" on a single socket system since it was created to solve issues on "multi-socket" systems.  I use it on my SR-2, but not on my 980X.  If you want to read all about it from the guy that wrote it (Tear), it is in this thread which he keeps up to date:
                http://www.amdzone.com/ph...php?f=521&t=138463
                 
                One word for those using hexacore systems for Bigadvs, you don't need to be concerned about receiving the 810X Bigadvs on a hexacore because that WU requires seeing 16 threads.  The servers will not issue you one when they see that you have just 12 threads via your hexacore.
                 
                On my 980X, dedicated Folding, under Ubuntu, at 4.0Ghz, here's my PPD from the (3) Bigadv WUs that I consistently get:
                6901 - 63,650
                6903 - 88,347
                6904 - 82,196
                 
                As you can see, the 6903 is the "sweet spot" of the 3 WUs for PPD. 
                 
                 

                 
                                              

                       

                 
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                  Re:3930k and Bigadv? Sunday, June 24, 2012 11:28 AM (permalink)
                  Just so you know as texinga said you do not need the bigbeta flag or the kraken on a 6 core 12 thread single socket setup. You can use the bigadv flag, but if you choose to not run the kraken then you will need to run the generic-ck version of Linux which uses the BFS scheduler. Also you should use ext3 file system If you follow the instructions and advice in the link that Hovart provided you should maximize your PPD and have no problems.
                   
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                    Re:3930k and Bigadv? Sunday, June 24, 2012 11:51 AM (permalink)
                    problem is it has ext4 already installed
                     
                    the manual install did not go well - so I used the simple window/linux dual boot install
                    that installs ext4 rather than ext3
                     
                     
                     
                     
                       


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                      Re:3930k and Bigadv? Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:44 PM (permalink)
                      No worries Xavier, the ext4 file system used with the Windows/Linux dual boot install (Ubuntu WUBI installer) does not cause an issue for Folding.  That installation method (while using the ext4 file system) does not have the problem that people avoid by using the ext3 file system and discrete installs of Linux.  That is one of the beauties IMO of using the Ubuntu WUBI installer and it is easier for the non-techie Linux types.  I know that is not you, but I just wanted to pop-in and let you know that your particular install method will not have the problem with lengthy file processing times. 

                       
                                                    

                             

                       
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                        Xavier Zepherious

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                        Re:3930k and Bigadv? Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:07 PM (permalink)
                        Okay...
                        does anyone have a CPU monitoring tool to suggest under linux mint?
                         
                        I tried psensor - needs updated lm-sensor drivers
                         
                        as for the ext issue I was aware of upload issues with ext4 
                         
                        and.....BAM picked up a 6901 right away under bigadv for...116K PPD from rig 2
                        add another 25K from rig 1
                         
                        yahoo!!! ....come on top 20
                         
                        don't forget rig 3 is coming next month
                         
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