johnalan


I have been running my revodrive for 2 years now with no problems.  My buddy Twisted111 has been running his for 1 month less than me with no problems.  He is running the revodrive x2 which gets 750mbs read/write speeds.  We both have our OS's installed on these drives.  The computer recognizes them as SSD drives in raid 0.  The new Revodrive 3's get over a gb per second.  Your choice.  Its your computer.  Do the research and see what is best for you and your buget.  Just wanted to make a suggestion.
Specs on the Revodrive 3
http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-revodrive-3-x2-pci-express-ssd.html

Thanks man! going to look some extra into them thats for sure =)

Cant wait to see your build man, it's looking like it is going to be a beast!!

whitnasty1


Cant wait to see your build man, it's looking like it is going to be a beast!!

Many thanks! 
And thanks alot for the help! you definitely get a mention in the build log! =)

May I ask why you are choosing i7-3960X over i7-3930K (I'm assuming they are both available at times of purchase)?  Performance wise, the only difference is that the $1,000 6-core has more L3 cache memory than the $600 6-core, but whether the difference shows itself depends on application.  They both have unlocked multipliers up to 57x and adjustable strap ratios beyond stock 100MHx bus clock, though practically on an H100 you're not going to overclock much farther than 5GHz (FPO Batch dependent, since not all processors are alike). 
 
Faster and more expensive models exist mainly for the majority that don't overclock, so if they want the best i7 available, 3960X is it.  But if you're not going to overclock, you don't need H100 unless you just want lower than average temperatures.
 
Also, unless you're planning another two 680's someday or upgrade to a future pair of dual-GPU cards, you don't need a 1500W power supply, unless a high quality 1200W unit isn't available.  CPU and GPU draw the most power in your system and only from 12v.  Your 6-core runs about 11A (While 980X and 3960X are different architectures, both are 32nm 6-cores at close to the same frequency, so they'll have about the same power draw) and each GTX680 is just over 16A (scroll to bottom), so that's 43A total not including fans and drives-- still, that is between 650-850W unit depending on your overclock.  You don't need much to start.
 
I realize this is your dream and I'm not being critical, it is just that my bias of determining diminishing returns is bleeding through.  There is a fine line between future-proof (getting more than you need for a future use) and overkill (never needing the extra).  My X58/i7-920 was an attempt at future-proof but I ended up overkilling, but that doesn't mean I won't upgrade to another expensive setup someday because I can.  What you get is up to you.
 

JuleKo

Delirious

Actually, I've seen the larger drives with better speeds.

So logic fails me.. 
the SSD must acces itself with the same speed, no matter where the files a placed on the disk.

Many times larger capacity SSD's have higher performance for marketing appeal, i.e. companies adjust the speeds.  It has nothing to do with what the technology can do.  Why should they allow full-bore on a low-premium product?  Even Intel varies the ability between their processors and platforms; architecturally, there is no difference between LGA1155 and LGA2011 except for specs. 

Many times larger capacity SSD's have higher performance for marketing appeal, i.e. companies adjust the speeds.  It has nothing to do with what the technology can do.
 
^^ I am sure  this is true and the do adjust the speeds for marketing and sales, however I have read various articles that detail as to why the smaller drives tend to be a bit slower than the larger ones. There's an entire article on it in PC Format Magazine Issue 285.
I have to agree with the 3960x vs. 3930k theory though, for half the price you can pretty much get the exact same processor, the build is up to you however, and if you want the absolute best and money isnt an option, get the 3960x. But since you probably will overclock the processor, the 3930k will be a beast as well. Especially for gaming purposes.

Unless you have a need for a 3960X, i'd move down to a 3930K and maybe spend the saved money on watercooling that rig properly, ie not with a puny H100 :p
 
The reason I say watercooling is because you can make a system look amazing whilst keeping it 100% silent . Some fancy lighting will just add to the end effect even more. I PROMISE you that you will be much happier with custom liquid cooling than you will be with ANY all in one liquid solution
 
RE your mobo, you will NOT regret it! It has so many great features, very spacious and build quality is superb!
 
 

Yeah I really like that ASUS RIVE, and I do not particularly like ASUS after I blew my P67 Sabertooth, and could never get an RMA set up. Their customer service blows.

lehpron


May I ask why you are choosing i7-3960X over i7-3930K (I'm assuming they are both available at times of purchase)?  Performance wise, the only difference is that the $1,000 6-core has more L3 cache memory than the $600 6-core, but whether the difference shows itself depends on application.  They both have unlocked multipliers up to 57x and adjustable strap ratios beyond stock 100MHx bus clock, though practically on an H100 you're not going to overclock much farther than 5GHz (FPO Batch dependent, since not all processors are alike). 

 
Well mainly it's because i can, there is'nt really any good reason for going all in or not =) In some way im just going on the beat, and if it's possible why not take the best there is? :)
 

lehpron

Faster and more expensive models exist mainly for the majority that don't overclock, so if they want the best i7 available, 3960X is it.  But if you're not going to overclock, you don't need H100 unless you just want lower than average temperatures.

 
The H100 is my first step in to noob watercooling, cant really convince myself about going all in on water. Mostly because the idea of having water near my hardware, scares the crap out of me :)
 

lehpron

Also, unless you're planning another two 680's someday or upgrade to a future pair of dual-GPU cards, you don't need a 1500W power supply, unless a high quality 1200W unit isn't available.  CPU and GPU draw the most power in your system and only from 12v.  Your 6-core runs about 11A (While 980X and 3960X are different architectures, both are 32nm 6-cores at close to the same frequency, so they'll have about the same power draw) and each GTX680 is just over 16A (scroll to bottom), so that's 43A total not including fans and drives-- still, that is between 650-850W unit depending on your overclock.  You don't need much to start.

 
Well i have the thermaltake toughpower from my former build together with the corsair 800d, that why im just reusing them :)
 

lehpron

I realize this is your dream and I'm not being critical, it is just that my bias of determining diminishing returns is bleeding through.  There is a fine line between future-proof (getting more than you need for a future use) and overkill (never needing the extra).  My X58/i7-920 was an attempt at future-proof but I ended up overkilling, but that doesn't mean I won't upgrade to another expensive setup someday because I can.  What you get is up to you.

 
Thank you sir, it's always good to get a different view on things. But in reality im just doing the build because it's possible for me right now =)
 

"The H100 is my first step in to noob watercooling, cant really convince myself about going all in on water. Mostly because the idea of having water near my hardware, scares the crap out of me :) "
 
Honestly, there's no need at all to worry!
 
If you do your reading and take care, nothing will happen :)
 
I've had my fair share of leaks and if you give your gadgets the chance to dry out, they'll most likely work without a hitch.
 
Leaks can very easily be avoided too with compression fittings. A H100 isn't really watercooling IMO - you can't see anythign and you won't get anywhere near as much satisfaction as doing it prpoerly. 
 
With a proper loop you can watercool you motherboards and your RAM. It'll look fantastic!
 
Also, you have an 800D - the case was built for watercooling!!!

padhim


Unless you have a need for a 3960X, i'd move down to a 3930K and maybe spend the saved money on watercooling that rig properly, ie not with a puny H100 :p

The reason I say watercooling is because you can make a system look amazing whilst keeping it 100% silent . Some fancy lighting will just add to the end effect even more. I PROMISE you that you will be much happier with custom liquid cooling than you will be with ANY all in one liquid solution

RE your mobo, you will NOT regret it! It has so many great features, very spacious and build quality is superb!

Okay, well - again im a TOTAL watercooling noob! have never done it! so what would be needed and whats the best way of cooling my new beast? :)

JuleKo

padhim


Unless you have a need for a 3960X, i'd move down to a 3930K and maybe spend the saved money on watercooling that rig properly, ie not with a puny H100 :p

The reason I say watercooling is because you can make a system look amazing whilst keeping it 100% silent . Some fancy lighting will just add to the end effect even more. I PROMISE you that you will be much happier with custom liquid cooling than you will be with ANY all in one liquid solution

RE your mobo, you will NOT regret it! It has so many great features, very spacious and build quality is superb!

Okay, well - again im a TOTAL watercooling noob! have never done it! so what would be needed and whats the best way of cooling my new beast? :)

 
Have a look here :)
 
http://www.evga.com/forums/fb.ashx?m=1603711

So right now the hardware looks like:
 
1x Asus rampage IV
1x Corsair Dominator GT 16gb
2x evga 680 signature
1x intel 3930k
2x samsung 830 256gb
 
in a corsair 800d case with the thermal 1.5kw psu
 
so where and what should get some water?
 

Id say the H100 is a decent intro to a closed loop system just to see if that is the type of thing you would like, or if you would rather just stay with air. Up to you though, either way you will have a sick set up! For the fans, I would highly recommend the Scythe Gently Typhoon AP-15's, they have a lot of static pressure that is good for pushing air through your radiators and helps facilitate cooling, I used the H70 and those Corsair fans that came with the H70 were really loud, so you will probably want to swap those out.

JuleKo


So right now the hardwear looks like:

1x Asus rampage IV
1x Corsair Dominator GT 16gb
2x evga 680 signature
1x intel 3930k
2x samsung 830 256gb

in a corsair 800d case with the thermal 1.5kw psu

so where and what should get some water?

If you take the HDD cage out, you can fit a 360 and a 240 radiator, is that something you'd be willing to do? (take the HDD cage out)

padhim

JuleKo


So right now the hardwear looks like:

1x Asus rampage IV
1x Corsair Dominator GT 16gb
2x evga 680 signature
1x intel 3930k
2x samsung 830 256gb

in a corsair 800d case with the thermal 1.5kw psu

so where and what should get some water?

If you take the HDD cage out, you can fit a 360 and a 240 radiator, is that something you'd be willing to do? (take the HDD cage out)

 
Yeah, looks neat - but my moding skills is non-exsistent and really dont have acces to any kind of big tools here. =)

Here's just a quick basket I knocked up on a UK site:
Ooh, that failed. here's a link instead :)
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=21963681&postcount=16  

You can change the reservoir, fluid colour, fitting colour and the block materials to your personal tastes as I have chosen them according to mine :)

@juleko, we were all new to water cooling at one time. It's your business what you start with but there's always going to be apprehension until u do it the first time. Maybe it's not now but consider that a custom loop will be more efficient, cooler, quieter, and the experience of trying one now allows you better upgrades and less apprehension later. My first one made me nervous. I worked with a guy at sidewinder pcs and now, 4 years later, it's still working like a charm. It was a simple pump, 3 rad, reservoir, motherboard and CPU block. If your not in a hurry and all that you have invested, consider the possibility. There are many on this forum that will help you and if anyone tries to belittle you because of lack of knowledge, let a moderator know. I'd like to think that's what makes these forums a little better.

As afar as overkill, well, it's your money and quite honestly, overkill isn't a bad thing when price isn't a problem. Should I be putting three radiators on my new build? Maybe not but there's space for them and I'm going to use it. Should I own a 1500 watt power supply? Maybe not but if I can afford one, why not. Should I get the best processor out there? I did, I got the qx9770 back a few years ago and now 4 years later, It still does want its supposed to do. I didn't upgrade every year. There is some reason in why go with one CPU over another and that reason is application. You also don't want to feed intel money if you don't have to. It's your money though. But also being an enthusiast is often taking a lower priced CPU and pushing it up to those speeds. I get a little joy in that. It's up to you. I see leprons ideology, but I also see that a dream build is just that, it's your vision and what you want it too look like. I know that I am going to get critiqued as to why I did what I did on my new build but in the end, I have to live with it and be happy with it. and I learn how do it better the next time. hobbies are just that way, anyone can buy a Dell but the experience you gain of reaching out to others and making your own rig is invaluable.

I've Seen some cars all tricked out with spinners and lift kits and make me scratch my head and say WTH? But it makes them happy and that's all that matters.

Good points all the way thats for sure! 
 
And maybe thats why i should make the small job of watercooling, just keeping it off the graphics. So im in for a cpu, motherboard, maybe ram if thats smart to watercool? 
 
Its strange, been playing with computers for a long time, but there is always something new to learn :)

JuleKo


Good points all the way thats for sure! 

And maybe thats why i should make the small job of watercooling, just keeping it off the graphics. So im in for a cpu, motherboard, maybe ram if thats smart to watercool? 

Its strange, been playing with computers for a long time, but there is always something new to learn :)

The RAM does not by any means need watercooling, IMO it just looks beautiful to do so.
 
Motherboard is subjective, I personally found it to be too lopud so am eagerly awaiting my block so I may finally finish my build which is still slowly in progress :)
 
I'd suggest watercooling the graphics as they will be the noisiest and you also get to keep your warranty with EVGA

Youn don't have to cool the ram. It just cuts one more little loud fan out of the mix. Some say it causes a reduction in flow. I say if it's what you want, then do it and get a pump strong enough like a 655 and have at it. Maybe a mistake, maybe not. I'm trying one this year just because my little corsair ram cooler had one fan whine when I started my computer for a little bit and I thought, this year, I'm done with that. There are a few corsair ram block out thee and bitspower makes one that replaces the ram sink on other models.

Delirious


Youn don't have to cool the ram. It just cuts one more little loud fan out of the mix. Some say it causes a reduction in flow. I say if it's what you want, then do it and get a pump strong enough like a 655 and have at it. Maybe a mistake, maybe not. I'm trying one this year just because my little corsair ram cooler had one fan whine when I started my computer for a little bit and I thought, this year, I'm done with that. There are a few corsair ram block out thee and bitspower makes one that replaces the ram sink on other models.

Thankfull seeing as he already has corsair dominators, he can watercool his RAM easily :D
 
The blocks are high flow so a single D5 should be able to handle it easily :D

Right, that means cpu and both graphicards, maybe ram.
 
Can you a magic trick to point me in the right direction of what a basket needs for cooling that or is it already in the overclocker basket? :)

Everything you need is in that basket :)
 
Anyone else please do feel free to butt in if i've missed anything off :)

padhim


Everything you need is in that basket :)

Anyone else please do feel free to butt in if i've missed anything off :)

 
Awesome thanks! Then i just ahve to try and find it all in denmark, maybe i can save som money on that. Hardware is more expensive in UK apparently

Maybe 1850 on the fans and maybe 1/2 in ID 3/4 in OD tubing with fitting to match. Seems larger ID tubing holds more fluid. Personal preference

I ordered a few pieces from this guy. I was FLORED as to how fast I got them. From Germany to USA in three business days via UPS for 8 bucks. I ordered a reservoir and some fittings I knew I wouldn't return. Had to order over 75 USD to get that rate

http://www.aquatuning.us/

Delirious


Maybe 1850 on the fans and maybe 1/2 in ID 3/4 in OD tubing with fitting to match. Seems larger ID tubing holds more fluid. Personal preference

 
Not really that much difference between tubing. I've founf 7/16 offers the perfect combo between felxibility and largeness :D
 
I advise 1450 as they are purportedly the fans which undervolt the most making them ideal for silence :)

JuleKo

padhim


Everything you need is in that basket :)

Anyone else please do feel free to butt in if i've missed anything off :)

Awesome thanks! Then i just ahve to try and find it all in denmark, maybe i can save som money on that. Hardware is more expensive in UK apparently

 
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[<font]It was in Dutch so I had lots of difficulty I'm afraid. I may have missed some things out

Really nice!
 
Gonna give that a go then!
 
Thanks for the help yet again. Gotta go to work, the time flies when you having fun lol ;)

OP just a friendly word, if by chance you cant get something youd like in your home country. Im sure we could work something out where I middle man you some parts. VIA paypal or something to keep things legit.
 
"$20 birthday gifts" look real nice sometimes... Just trying to help out. I would hate to live in a country where i can get the parts i want. So ill try to help if i can.

Wauw! Now thats really wonderful to know! Gonna remember that :-) 
 
Now the next question is wether or not I should go with the GTX 690 instead of sli 680 :)