Totally agree with you, I love CD Projekt and their awesome attitude, but I wasn't too impressed with Witcher 2 unlike most people, anyways the industry is slowly transitioning to a F2P model, I swear BLR and Tribes Ascend are better than some of the AAA titles I have played in the past couple of years (but I have still yet to convince myself to spend money to unlock things in a F2P game)

Vilestrife


Lets not EA "winning" the worst company golden poo award.
Google it

Which Activision should have won by leaps and bounds compared to them....

ShurikenAngel

Demonik5150


just purchased it will be upgraded to Hunters Edition as well as other goodies 

I smell EA going to go CoD with Crysis....  Crysis 2 just came out....

 
Crysis 2 came out over a year ago, and this won't come out for another year. 2 years is a more than acceptable development time-frame. It's also worth noting that Crysis 1.5 (Warhead) came out 2 years after Crysis 1, re-used a lot of assets, and was generally a much better game. C3 looks to be the Warhead of Crysis 2, and will probably be pretty good.... though I still refuse to buy anything that uses Origin.

Bkatt


Lol have fun playing for a game you will not see for almost a year.

Also knowing EA and what crisis tried to pull with crisis 2, It will be a console port.

I don't think they can afford to do that this time. Crytek is going head-to-head with Unreal right now, and they need to put all the weight they can into marketing the abilities of their engine. I fully expect Crytek to release DX11 features (the latest updates to the engine make it soooooo easy to do) and max the hell out of the PC, especially with "Unreal 4" looming ahead.

I'd rather continue to play Far Cry 1 then bother with this crap again from EA and Crytek. FC2 blew such horrid and decaying donkey balls.

1ceTr0n


I'd rather continue to play Far Cry 1 then bother with this crap again from EA and Crytek. FC2 blew such horrid and decaying donkey balls.

FC2 wasn't from EA nor Crytek.... it was Ubisoft.

zurginator
 

Crysis 2 came out over a year ago, and this won't come out for another year. 2 years is a more than acceptable development time-frame. It's also worth noting that Crysis 1.5 (Warhead) came out 2 years after Crysis 1, re-used a lot of assets, and was generally a much better game. C3 looks to be the Warhead of Crysis 2, and will probably be pretty good.... though I still refuse to buy anything that uses Origin.

 
Warhead was already headed down the CoD path.  It was almost completely linear, unlike Crysis 1.  The campaign was also 3-4 hours shorter.  It's a real shame when people call that better.  MP improved for sure, but that didn't matter much since hardly anyone played it.  Too complicated compared to BF and CoD I guess.
 

zurginator

1ceTr0n


I'd rather continue to play Far Cry 1 then bother with this crap again from EA and Crytek. FC2 blew such horrid and decaying donkey balls.

FC2 wasn't from EA nor Crytek.... it was Ubisoft.

 
Yeah, Crytek probably would have ruined FC2 more.... turn it into a linear sci-fi FPS maybe?

Over all experience of Warhead was much better. Shorter, yes. More linear..... debatable, it really wasn't cut back too much when you go back and look at the levels side-by side again. Some were definitely more linear though.... and that's also what caused the performance increase from C1 (more occluders).

Crysis 2 really wasn't THAT linear, when you consider how hard it is to make something open in a city. You also forget how much of C1 is linear: The entire first level, until sunrise... and then it only branches out because 90% of it is water. It soon thereafter becomes linear again. The second level is extremely linear. The alien ship, and the level after that are linear. The battle ship is linear. The flying level is linear. I don't really remember much other than that though. Maybe I'll go re-install the editor to show you. :P

FC2 made by Crytek would have probably been like FC1... a semi-linear sci-fi fps. :P 

Edit: It's all about the illusion of freedom, and Crysis is great at it. I'll edit back later and try and add some C2 examples, but C2 has a lot more vertical play, so it'll be harder to show.

Red is "linear", Blue is "open" 
Island (first level):

I don't count the ocean because it's procedural generation, and there isn't jack to do there. 
Village (second level):

50% of that blue is also procedural, but meh. 
And of course, the performance killing "Ice":

 

You're not limited to just the roads in Crysis.  You can cut through the jungles and there are lots of places do go.  It isn't an open world game, just a sandbox game and many of us miss that.  

boredgunner


You're not limited to just the roads in Crysis.  You can cut through the jungles and there are lots of places do go.  It isn't an open world game, just a sandbox game and many of us miss that.  

The red is including the jungles in the highlighting. Go play it again, you'll be surprised by how restricted you really are. Also, for the record, I hated C2 compared to C1.... but maps and detail were not where it fell short.... it was the neutered NanoSuit.

Edit: Jesus the maps in C2 are a lot bigger than I thought.... I'll have to dig one out that's small enough to realistically use.

Edit Edit:
A lot less vertical, and a whole lot more horizontal play than I remember. Got 3 that actually pretty closely resemble the 3 C1 levels I pulled (and yes, there are some HUGE C2 maps.... and they're a PITA to get a screen of)

Battery Park (First level)

Some really wide open areas, and some wide linear areas. Despite the linear areas being very wide, there really isn't much to do, so I made them linear anyways.
Maddison Square

Absolutely HUGE map, I was not expecting that at all. Lots of open areas.
Times Square

Very small map, comparable to Ice when it comes to size and play.  

I don't need to play Crysis again, I know exactly how it is.  Like I said, it isn't the most open game although the island assault and tank maps are more open than those.  Vertical freedom was the big emphasis with Crysis 2, but that didn't do anything for me.  

You've gotta remember that you're *supposed* to stay in the tank for 90% of that one, which allowed them to use a lot less detail when it comes to the environment. The grass/small plants are all procedural, and there isn't any real use of entities. C2 had a driving level as well.... and it's almost as big and bland. 

It's also worth noting that Tank (actual level name) was cut from the console version.... and doing that in a modern game would have hell to pay. 

Edit:
Wouldn't exactly call this Crysis 2.5. Looks awesome. 
Definitely has POM, which is more than could be said about C2. Not really a good look at if there is any tessellation, but it looks to me like the vines do indeed have some Phong Tess.
At the very least I'm excited to mess with it in the editor.
 
 

new news about crysis 3 that they'll make the console version to look like DX11 graphics of the PC version.
I don't know why they would spend so much time and hardwork on the console versions all the time.
But if they could do that on outdated consoles, then why don't they upgrade the PC version graphics to the max even way what the PC is capable of?
Call it ultra settings maybe. Similar to Max Payne 3 system req GTX 680, 3930k, and 16 GB RAM LOL.
 
http://www.techpowerup.co...-Xbox-360-and-PS3.html

Zurg makes great points on that, even though Crysis 1 was fun to play and kinda open it was still linear as **** its the same case with Witcher 2
 
Also Warhead is an expansions and was released like only a year after Crysis? How time did Crysis have?
 
Anyways Crysis 3 is another major disappointment from crytek but hopefully that's only due to EA's horrible thinking

Man I just want Nomad and Psycho back.  Oh and I want a predator mode!

realmad37


Zurg makes great points on that, even though Crysis 1 was fun to play and kinda open it was still linear as **** its the same case with Witcher 2

Also Warhead is an expansions and was released like only a year after Crysis? How time did Crysis have?

Anyways Crysis 3 is another major disappointment from crytek but hopefully that's only due to EA's horrible thinking

 

Warhead came out 2 years after Crysis, and Crysis 2 came out 2 years after that. This is the normal Crytek development cycle. Warhead also wasn't an expansion.... it was a stand-alone $50 game (did come with Wars though). IMO it was better than the original, but the problem is you can't mod it. :(

zurginator

realmad37


Zurg makes great points on that, even though Crysis 1 was fun to play and kinda open it was still linear as **** its the same case with Witcher 2

Also Warhead is an expansions and was released like only a year after Crysis? How time did Crysis have?

Anyways Crysis 3 is another major disappointment from crytek but hopefully that's only due to EA's horrible thinking

 

Warhead came out 2 years after Crysis, and Crysis 2 came out 2 years after that. This is the normal Crytek development cycle. Warhead also wasn't an expansion.... it was a stand-alone $50 game (did come with Wars though). IMO it was better than the original, but the problem is you can't mod it. :(

 
You can mod Warhead just as much as the original. 

boredgunner

zurginator

realmad37


Zurg makes great points on that, even though Crysis 1 was fun to play and kinda open it was still linear as **** its the same case with Witcher 2

Also Warhead is an expansions and was released like only a year after Crysis? How time did Crysis have?

Anyways Crysis 3 is another major disappointment from crytek but hopefully that's only due to EA's horrible thinking

 

Warhead came out 2 years after Crysis, and Crysis 2 came out 2 years after that. This is the normal Crytek development cycle. Warhead also wasn't an expansion.... it was a stand-alone $50 game (did come with Wars though). IMO it was better than the original, but the problem is you can't mod it. :(

You can mod Warhead just as much as the original. 

Negative, they didn't ship it with the .cry files, because otherwise we would have just ported the maps to Crysis 1. You can do basic TOD/texture/model replacements, but you can't actually work on the maps, unfortunately.

I just got about half way through crysis 2 and i like it. I have the blackfire mod for graphics enhancemant and 3d on(i have asus 27inch moitor).

zurginator

boredgunner

zurginator

realmad37


Zurg makes great points on that, even though Crysis 1 was fun to play and kinda open it was still linear as **** its the same case with Witcher 2

Also Warhead is an expansions and was released like only a year after Crysis? How time did Crysis have?

Anyways Crysis 3 is another major disappointment from crytek but hopefully that's only due to EA's horrible thinking

 

Warhead came out 2 years after Crysis, and Crysis 2 came out 2 years after that. This is the normal Crytek development cycle. Warhead also wasn't an expansion.... it was a stand-alone $50 game (did come with Wars though). IMO it was better than the original, but the problem is you can't mod it. :(

You can mod Warhead just as much as the original. 

Negative, they didn't ship it with the .cry files, because otherwise we would have just ported the maps to Crysis 1. You can do basic TOD/texture/model replacements, but you can't actually work on the maps, unfortunately.

 
Yeah that's right, I remember actually running into issues regarding this.  But Crysis 1 maps work with Warhead, and aside from the default maps you can mod Warhead just as much.  Editing default maps usually leads to AI bugs anyway, and is not recommended.  Thankfully you can edit Crysis Wars maps, though.

Battlefield 3 is the new Crysis Wars :P

OV3RCLK4


Battlefield 3 is the new Crysis Wars :P

 
They're completely different in just about every way.  Crysis Wars is a PC multiplayer game - mod support is beyond extensive, and doesn't have dumbed down gameplay or game modes.

boredgunner

OV3RCLK4


Battlefield 3 is the new Crysis Wars :P

They're completely different in just about every way.  Crysis Wars is a PC multiplayer game - mod support is beyond extensive, and doesn't have dumbed down gameplay or game modes.

Does anyone still play Wars? Because I'm totally thinking about re-installing it if they do.

I loved Crysis 2 and will get this for sure, just not going to pre-order it...yet.

kram36


I loved Crysis 2 and will get this for sure, just not going to pre-order it...yet.

+1. I don't think i'll preorder though this time like I did with C2.  I had played it through several times by the time the DX11 patch was put out. I'd prefer to have the complete game the 1st time I play it!!
 

bdary

kram36


I loved Crysis 2 and will get this for sure, just not going to pre-order it...yet.

+1. I don't think i'll preorder though this time like I did with C2.  I had played it through several times by the time the DX11 patch was put out. I'd prefer to have the complete game the 1st time I play it!!

+2

pre-purchased mine the other day.
Then again I have the Alcatraz statue=D

zurginator

boredgunner

OV3RCLK4


Battlefield 3 is the new Crysis Wars :P

They're completely different in just about every way.  Crysis Wars is a PC multiplayer game - mod support is beyond extensive, and doesn't have dumbed down gameplay or game modes.

Does anyone still play Wars? Because I'm totally thinking about re-installing it if they do.

 
Peaks at maybe 200 and change during the day.  It's really sad... that's my favorite PvP MP game by far.  I hate how most servers only run Mesa or Tarmac, and I got banned from a few for either killing too many admins or being creative.  

E3 Official trailer

 
gameplay at e3
[tube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XuNpaEfP0ss[/tube]

Im tied hearing about console ports......am i the only one THAT DOSENT care if its ported from a console or not??? If a game looks amazing, is fun to play, and works...it could be ported from a toaster for all i care. I have not had any problems with EA bf3 works fine for me and i had fun playing it. I even talked to their support the other day, they were extremely helpful and solved my issue in less then 10 minutes. I also had alot of fun playing the second crysis. Also people complaining that you dont understand why developers focus on consoles more? ALOT MORE PEOPLE USE CONSOLES, OF COURSE THEY WILL FOCUS ON THEIR BIGGEST AUDIENCE. They made a high definition pack for crysis 2 for pc...and they released it when it was completely finished....I remember people complaining that bf3 switch from PC to console mid development....by the time they switched....most of the game was already made for PC......so the entire backbone was pretty much there. So if a game is fun just shut up and play it! LOL

I never played Crysis, but I did play Warhead and while it was an OK game, it was nothing to write home to mom about. I'm looking forward to picking up Crysis 2 when it goes on sale at Steam and I'll probably get around to playing Crysis 3 sometime in 2014. I really loved FarCry and I'm almost through with FC2, which I'm enjoying a lot. I spent two years in Southern Africa, and driving around in FC2 does bring back memories. I wish FC2 had predatory animals that one would have to be on the lookout for, and elephants and such, but I suppose you can only spend so much time and money creating a game. I'm really looking forward to FC3.