okay so I don't have a pc anymore only a laptop:/ can someone please tell me why I'm seeing all this hate on the game and why the patches ruined the game and the weapons changed??

Really just depends on who you ask.

The whiners are always the outspoken crowd.  There are plenty of things they did that I don't agree were necessary but the game is still fun to me as it stands.

No modding support.

No dedicated server files for the users.

The Battlefield series was great because of the mods available for it, now the Battlefield series as it was is dead. It has been replaced with a dumbed down arcade game for teens.

I play Arma II now, a relistic combat simulator.

IRNV, USAS, Dart, 3D spotting, sniper reticle glare... BF3 is now MW3-noob friendly - and for that, I sold my copy.
 
/Thread.

^ What OMG_A_FURRY and Zach said.  The game itself is just too generic and run-and-gun, and poor weapon balance doesn't help.  Coop and SP are also last minute add-ons with no effort at all.
     

Newguy1212
 

why the patches ruined the game and the weapons changed?? 

 
 
Because they listened to the community.  It would appear that the community doesn't want any gun to have an advantage over another.  

OMG_A_FURRY


No modding support.

 The Battlefield series was great because of the mods available for it, now the Battlefield series as it was is dead. It has been replaced with a dumbed down arcade game for teens.

Mods have been a rather small/niche element in the BF series.  And they really don't catch on in BF until the game is about done in its play-cycle.
 
I don't think too many people(relative to the number of people playing BF) really care about mods?

Game to me is still fun in most aspects, I just wish they would undo two things, the recoil changes, and the armor to the MBT. Still waiting for the Suppression fix.....

boredgunner


^ What OMG_A_FURRY and Zach said.  The game itself is just too generic and run-and-gun, and poor weapon balance doesn't help.  Coop and SP are also last minute add-ons with no effort at all.
   

Newguy1212
 

why the patches ruined the game and the weapons changed?? 

 

Because they listened to the community.  It would appear that the community doesn't want any gun to have an advantage over another.  

 
Wait they changed the weapon system because people complained??

boredgunner

     

Newguy1212
 

why the patches ruined the game and the weapons changed?? 

 

Because they listened to the community.  It would appear that the community doesn't want any gun to have an advantage over another.  

^This is probably true, mainly as mentioned above by Camel, that the whiners are likely the most outspoken and all the rest of us have to cater to their desires unfortunately.

forrestang

OMG_A_FURRY


No modding support.

The Battlefield series was great because of the mods available for it, now the Battlefield series as it was is dead. It has been replaced with a dumbed down arcade game for teens.

Mods have been a rather small/niche element in the BF series.  And they really don't catch on in BF until the game is about done in its play-cycle.

I don't think too many people(relative to the number of people playing BF) really care about mods?

 
I have to disagree vehemently. Bf1942 MADE THE BF SERIES with mods like DC, DC Final/X, Forgotten Hope, Reality Mod... BF2 was MADE by RealityMod... BFBC2 and BF3 essentially killed the series for me.

Newguy1212

boredgunner


^ What OMG_A_FURRY and Zach said.  The game itself is just too generic and run-and-gun, and poor weapon balance doesn't help.  Coop and SP are also last minute add-ons with no effort at all.
 

Newguy1212
 

why the patches ruined the game and the weapons changed?? 

 

Because they listened to the community.  It would appear that the community doesn't want any gun to have an advantage over another.  

Wait they changed the weapon system because people complained??

 
The sky is also blue.  

Well If I ever get a pc again like a gaming one I will have to try and play it I use to love the game on multiplayer

EVGATech_ZachN

I have to disagree vehemently. Bf1942 MADE THE BF SERIES with mods like DC, DC Final/X, Forgotten Hope, Reality Mod... BF2 was MADE by RealityMod... BFBC2 and BF3 essentially killed the series for me.

 
+1

Newguy1212

boredgunner


^ What OMG_A_FURRY and Zach said.  The game itself is just too generic and run-and-gun, and poor weapon balance doesn't help.  Coop and SP are also last minute add-ons with no effort at all.
 

Newguy1212
 

why the patches ruined the game and the weapons changed?? 

 

Because they listened to the community.  It would appear that the community doesn't want any gun to have an advantage over another.  

Wait they changed the weapon system because people complained??

Yep! The game is worse than it was before. I tell the complainers, do you want some cheese with that whine?

XrayMan

 Yep! The game is worse than it was before. I tell the complainers, do you want some cheese with that whine?

 
And I usually reply, "No. I want EA to go back to making quality games that are at LEAST worth the raw materials used to forge the packaging materials the game is shipped in."

EVGATech_ZachN

XrayMan

Yep! The game is worse than it was before. I tell the complainers, do you want some cheese with that whine?

And I usually reply, "No. I want EA to go back to making quality games that are at LEAST worth the raw materials used to forge the packaging materials the game is shipped in."

...and I'm going to agree with you on that statement! That is true! I know!     

EVGATech_ZachN

XrayMan

Yep! The game is worse than it was before. I tell the complainers, do you want some cheese with that whine?

And I usually reply, "No. I want EA to go back to making quality games that are at LEAST worth the raw materials used to forge the packaging materials the game is shipped in."

 
Too bad I don't believe in miracles.  

I like it

boredgunner

Too bad I don't believe in miracles.  

 
You may want to try Arma II. It is an excellent combat simulator from an excellent game developer.
 
I play it with about 10.5 GB of mods on top of it. I have some shortcuts set up so I can launch it with or without mods as needed. It is the only reason I still keep a Windows partition around. Hopefully within the next few months I will be able to get it to run on Linux with a few updates to WINE. (It runs on Linux/WINE now, but does not detect mouse/keyboard input)

EVGATech_IanJ

boredgunner

Too bad I don't believe in miracles.  

You may want to try Arma II. It is an excellent combat simulator from an excellent game developer.

Did you really just say that to BG?!?!

I might have to try out arma 2.
 
Battlefield isn't about mods.....  what are you, 12?
 
1942 had modability built into the game.  Desert Combat had a HUGE following with server after server filled.  The modded maps were amazing and made El Alamein feel like Berlin.  Coral Sea was also awesome fun.  Huge maps for PROP PLANES.  Now in BF3 we get maps the size of a shoe box and are expected to fly jets inside without issue. 
 
BF3 isn't a bad game, but it sure is a joke compared to BF1942. 
 
I do not see why it is so hard for them to live up to the original when all we are asking for is Battlefield 1942 with DX11 gfx and PhysX.   We don't want some amazing new combat system, or some plot twist in the story, just a revised Battlefield 1942 for modern video cards.  They could actually leave the setting in WWII and modders would have no problem coming in and releasing battlefield 1992. 

Kanti


I might have to try out arma 2.

Battlefield isn't about mods.....  what are you, 12?

1942 had modability built into the game.  Desert Combat had a HUGE following with server after server filled.  The modded maps were amazing and made El Alamein feel like Berlin.  Coral Sea was also awesome fun.  Huge maps for PROP PLANES.  Now in BF3 we get maps the size of a shoe box and are expected to fly jets inside without issue. 

BF3 isn't a bad game, but it sure is a joke compared to BF1942. 

I do not see why it is so hard for them to live up to the original when all we are asking for is Battlefield 1942 with DX11 gfx and PhysX.   We don't want some amazing new combat system, or some plot twist in the story, just a revised Battlefield 1942 for modern video cards.  They could actually leave the setting in WWII and modders would have no problem coming in and releasing battlefield 1992. 

 
I absolutely could not agree more with you there. I just about dropped dead when I heard about the CQB mode coming out for BF3. 
 
Also... remember CTF DC_Lostvillage? Now THOSE were the days!

OMG lost village!  I think that map taught me everything I needed to know when it came to flying a helo in a BF game.  Whenever I get asked, "OMG how'd you do that, joystick!?"  I replay, "naw brah, WASD." 

Kanti


Battlefield isn't about mods.....  what are you, 12?

Here's all the proof you need that there isn't a significant portion of people that play BF that care about the mods ...... THREE of you guys in this thread talked about how much you liked the mods, DICE said multiple times BEFORE the game was released that they were not going to offer modding ability when they where bragging about and touting the Frostbite system.... yet all THREE of you purchased the game.  And when I say 'care about mods' above, I mean it is important enough to them to effect their purchasing of the game.
 
The statement made was:

No modding support. 

The Battlefield series was great because of the mods available for it, now the Battlefield series as it was is dead. It has been replaced with a dumbed down arcade game for teens. 
 

I was responding to the idea, that the lack of mod support isn't what I think most people consider 'what ruins a BF Game.'  Particularly, I don't think too many people will have that on their checklist, as a MUST before they purchased BF3.  I'm sure the ability for mods adds a lot of value, for a small % of people that play the game, but I doubt it is a big enough influence to effect their purchasing patterns.

Tank need major buffing again, other than that the patch is fine.

The patch was good. The game is still amazing.
 
Lol at saying Arma 2 is a replacement for BF3.

EVGATech_ZachN

Kanti


I might have to try out arma 2.

Battlefield isn't about mods.....  what are you, 12?

1942 had modability built into the game.  Desert Combat had a HUGE following with server after server filled.  The modded maps were amazing and made El Alamein feel like Berlin.  Coral Sea was also awesome fun.  Huge maps for PROP PLANES.  Now in BF3 we get maps the size of a shoe box and are expected to fly jets inside without issue. 

BF3 isn't a bad game, but it sure is a joke compared to BF1942. 

I do not see why it is so hard for them to live up to the original when all we are asking for is Battlefield 1942 with DX11 gfx and PhysX.   We don't want some amazing new combat system, or some plot twist in the story, just a revised Battlefield 1942 for modern video cards.  They could actually leave the setting in WWII and modders would have no problem coming in and releasing battlefield 1992. 

I absolutely could not agree more with you there. I just about dropped dead when I heard about the CQB mode coming out for BF3. 

Also... remember CTF DC_Lostvillage? Now THOSE were the days!

I am in the mood for some CTF Lostvillage... Thanks for bringing back those memories.

Tanks need some help. I fly a jet when im bored with infantry and its a lot easier to destroy any land vehicle now. Used to just focus on killing infantry with my main gun but now i just spend my time hunting down tanks. A round and a half with rocket pods destroy any vehicle no matter how much armor it has. Used to take almost 2 rounds with everyone of them hitting to get a kill. Now there dead before they even get knew what hit them. Ive also noticed ive been doing alot worse with my G36C they did something to it, because my accuracy and damage has gone to crap. But i cant figure out what it exactly is, all i know is i all of a sudden suck with it. lol. The dart glitch sucks now too, everyone is taking advantage of it.  The only thing i wanted them to change was the stingers, because there absolutely pointless. The whole reason i unlocked everything for the jet was to get revenge on the helicopters. The game is still fun but they did change alot of things that seemed unnecessary. But it seems like everytime they adjust something, it pisses someone off and then they nerf something else. People just need to release different vehicles/weapons do more damage and have better accuracy. Not every one is the same. 

EVGATech_IanJ
 

boredgunner
 
Too bad I don't believe in miracles.   

 

You may want to try Arma II. It is an excellent combat simulator from an excellent game developer. 

I play it with about 10.5 GB of mods on top of it. I have some shortcuts set up so I can launch it with or without mods as needed. It is the only reason I still keep a Windows partition around. Hopefully within the next few months I will be able to get it to run on Linux with a few updates to WINE. (It runs on Linux/WINE now, but does not detect mouse/keyboard input) 

 

I've already jumped the bandwagon like forrestang suggested.  Ever since I have, I really don't see myself buying any other modern warfare FPS outside of the series.    
 

tet5uo


Lol at saying Arma 2 is a replacement for BF3.

 
Indeed.  For those looking to try ArmA 2, keep in mind that the two games are completely different.  If you want a BF3 replacement, aka another arcade style modern warfare MP FPS, then you just have Call of Duty and MoH as far as I know.  As for BF and mods, EA doesn't care about disappointing the PC community because this is the smaller community.  Plus I'm sure they really wanted to get the game out before 2012.