It would appear that my SRX just got delivered at home :D Can't wait to get back!

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CyberstormXIII
...  you would probably be much better of creating 2 or more computers with dual xeon e5's instead - if you needed that much processing power - at least hardware wise, you would get much more processing power that way (if you properly factor in the cost of the windows server operating systems).

Unfortunately, for 3d rendering I'm coming to the same conclusion regarding my locked down dual 2687W Sandy Bridge Xeons running on the ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS - Dual Socket 2011 vis a vis the same two chips running singularly (or even two clock tweaked 3930Ks running) on two x79 motherboards.

 
I've been debating it for a while now, and it still bugs me that in the overall scheme of things, the upgrade to the SR-X right now wouldn't be much(if anything), over the SR-2 with a pair of X5680's or X5690's humming along at 4.5 Ghz, since the latter still overclocks while the SR-X does not to any meaningfull degree, so the extra cores in the 2687W's mearly offset the higher clocks of the X5680's.
 
The SR-X would be prefect by the time Intel releases the ivy bridge xeon's with 10 cores on each processor, then no matter how high the X5680's are clocked on the SR-2, the SR-X would be faster overall no matter what......Even better if overclocking is sorted out by then with the ivy bridge xeon's....

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CyberstormXIII
...  you would probably be much better of creating 2 or more computers with dual xeon e5's instead - if you needed that much processing power - at least hardware wise, you would get much more processing power that way (if you properly factor in the cost of the windows server operating systems).

Unfortunately, for 3d rendering I'm coming to the same conclusion regarding my locked down dual 2687W Sandy Bridge Xeons running on the ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS - Dual Socket 2011 vis a vis the same two chips running singularly (or even two clock tweaked 3930Ks running) on two x79 motherboards.

I've been debating it for a while now, and it still bugs me that in the overall scheme of things, the upgrade to the SR-X right now wouldn't be much(if anything), over the SR-2 with a pair of X5680's or X5690's humming along at 4.5 Ghz, since the latter still overclocks while the SR-X does not to any meaningfull degree, so the extra cores in the 2687W's mearly offset the higher clocks of the X5680's.

The SR-X would be prefect by the time Intel releases the ivy bridge xeon's with 15 cores on each processor, then no matter how high the X5680's are clocked on the SR-2, the SR-X would be faster overall no matter what......Even better if overclocking is sorted out by then with the ivy bridge xeon's....

Fixed..

hi
my question is
can evga sr-x handle 2 gtx 680 sli with 2  intel xeon 6C E52630 2.3 
or evga sr2 with intel xeon E5645 2.4 and overclock them to 3.8
or intel xeon E5650 2.66  this rig only for gaming
 
 
kindest Regards
 
 

hamoosh


hi
my question is
can evga sr-x handle 2 gtx 680 sli with 2  intel xeon 6C E52630 2.3 
or evga sr2 with intel xeon E5645 2.4 and overclock them to 3.8
or intel xeon E5650 2.66  this rig only for gaming


kindest Regards

 
It will just fine on any of the 3 options, just that games will only use 4 cores for the time being, so the remaining cores are essentially doing nothing until games are written to use more of them, and that might be one hell of a long wait to ultimately leverage 12 cores.....It's beyond overkill as of right now basically.

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shadow001

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CyberstormXIII
...  you would probably be much better of creating 2 or more computers with dual xeon e5's instead - if you needed that much processing power - at least hardware wise, you would get much more processing power that way (if you properly factor in the cost of the windows server operating systems).

Unfortunately, for 3d rendering I'm coming to the same conclusion regarding my locked down dual 2687W Sandy Bridge Xeons running on the ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS - Dual Socket 2011 vis a vis the same two chips running singularly (or even two clock tweaked 3930Ks running) on two x79 motherboards.

I've been debating it for a while now, and it still bugs me that in the overall scheme of things, the upgrade to the SR-X right now wouldn't be much(if anything), over the SR-2 with a pair of X5680's or X5690's humming along at 4.5 Ghz, since the latter still overclocks while the SR-X does not to any meaningfull degree, so the extra cores in the 2687W's mearly offset the higher clocks of the X5680's.

The SR-X would be prefect by the time Intel releases the ivy bridge xeon's with 15 cores on each processor, then no matter how high the X5680's are clocked on the SR-2, the SR-X would be faster overall no matter what......Even better if overclocking is sorted out by then with the ivy bridge xeon's....

Fixed..

 
Even better still.....
 
What i'm looking for is a setup that will flat out humiliate an SR-2 in CPU power, and while the SR-X is a great board, the other major ingredient is still missing, in this case they would be Xeon based ivy bridges with as many cores as possible, especially if they can't be overclocked much to begin with.
 
Needless to say, getting a 700$ motherboard and a pair of near 2000$ CPU's comes to a fair chunk of change, and only being marginally faster than an overclocked SR-2 setup, simply isn't enough for an expense of over 4000$ for the SR-X/ E5 2687W's. 

thanks  for the replay
 
To be honest with you
the Important thing to me Will there be a bottleneck with the processors  like intel xwon E5645 2.4 if i overclocked them on evga sr-2 with 2-or-3 gtx 680 sli
 i realy like the sr-x but the problem is the spu cant overclocked so there will be no benefit of that am realy new with this setup but i need your advice in this regard do you think there will be a spu on evga sr-x in the future support overclocking or go with evga sr2 with E5645 or wait  Your response would be appreciated
And sorry if there are mistake  in the writing
 
 best regards

hamoosh


thanks  for the replay

To be honest with you
the Important thing to me Will there be a bottleneck with the processors  like intel xwon E5645 2.4 if i overclocked them on evga sr-2 with 2-or-3 gtx 680 sli
i realy like the sr-x but the problem is the spu cant overclocked so there will be no benefit of that am realy new with this setup but i need your advice in this regard do you think there will be a spu on evga sr-x in the future support overclocking or go with evga sr2 with E5645 or wait  Your response would be appreciated
And sorry if there are mistake  in the writing

best regards

 
I'm currently running an SR-2 with a pair of X5650's at 4 Ghz even(4.3 with turbo), and have been for the last 15 months now, and while the benchmarks in games aren't as high as using a single socket motherboard where the CPU's overclock even more, and have better instruction per clock performance( westmere chips used on SR-2's are getting a bit old on the tooth afterall...), it holds it's own very nicely in any game.
 
And i'm even in a worse position since there's 4 HD7970's to feed here( everything is water cooled).
 

 
 
In short, it wouldn't be strickly gaming that is encouraging me to get an SR-X, as games as horribly behind using my current setup to it's full potential as it is.

Thanks
Nice rig
In any way i will compare between these two monster motherboards but
I think i will go with evga sr2  with 2 Intel Xeon E5645 or  E5650   and oc them
evga sr-x is a good mobo but if  spu were not  supports oc i think  its a waste of money  unless there will be a news about new xeon like ivy bridge  supports  overclocking  In the near future
 
Best Regards

hi at all
my first SRX come friday  , today bank holliday
yes SR2 ( I have 5 systems running at home ) is better for overclocking dual cpu  the xeons 5xxx is easy for this
the SRX have all tools , the xeons LGA2011 not implement the possibility , only  blck 105 108 and turbo 38 on 2C in 8C 6c disabled , I have tested my  xeons 8C on RE4 and Classified
106blck turbo 34 all 8C enabled
 
 

Hello Cyberstorm XIII.
Ive been trying to send you PMs but for some reason they never go out with my account. Maybe EVGA blocked me for saying I was disappointing on the way they handled the SR-X story.
Id lilke to ask you a question, but I dont know how to contact you
 
Thanks!!
 
Manny

Sent a PM back to you (had gotten them - just had a busy day yesterday) ;-)
 
Best regards: CyberstormXIII

are the new E5-4600's unlocked? tried to google this but without success.
 
also any chance that EVGA will release a 4 socket mobo in the future? since these new chips can handle 4 CPUs in link.

Look up the price of windows 2008 server if they did release a 4 socket motherboard.....You'd quickly change your mind on that idea...

and price for 8C 3500$ minimum one cpu
SRX 4cpu  big size with all cpu 8dim slot

If your going to spend $10K on CPUs I doubt the cost of server 2008 is going to be a factor, if you even decided to go with windows.

Quick question about CPU's. I just tonite bought a SR-2 board directly from EVGA, as it was under $500 with the MIR, couldn't find a better deal than that anywhere else, though Amazon had it for $529 w/free ship, but I missed the $50 MIR by about a week, so this is a decent price. Anywho, I noticed in this thread mentioned that X5690's O/C'ed are one way to go, but checking the supported CPU list, it looks like the board also supports the W5590. I believe the W stands for workstation, so does this mean that it isn't overclockable? I would think it would be rock solid, but if no O/C, then it probably wouldn't perform up to the specs of the X series CPU's. Thoughts? I am doing crunching for SETI, so stability is as important as speed to me. I need to keep those GPU's well fed...

Hi
code 19 not in list post code ?
my rig
2x xeons 8C ES 3ghz same at E5-2687 150w
this cpu running fine in my X79 classi and RE4
bios locked ES cpu ? same of SuperMicro

Hi,

Anyone having problems with ES processors?
I have the following error on the display: "AF". The motherboard is a few seconds on, then off immediately. I tried calling him alone as CPU0 and pair, with a retail version of the E5 2687w as CPU1. In both cases got the same errors.

It would have some idea of ​​what can be?

As I had problems with my second processor, following my result in Cinebench with onlyone processor (2687w):
img837.imageshack.us/img837/8370/001bhh.jpg

01) BCLK 103
02) Stock (after BIOS upgrade)
03) Stock (orginal BIOS)
04) My old E5620 and SR2

The borked PCI-E lane configuration of this board is extremely disappointing. I am looking at replacing my current SR-2 setup (running 6 GPUs and 4 SSDs in RAID-0), but the combination of 4 missing RAM slots, PCI-E switch hell again when the CPUs have more than enough lanes for direct, and Mavel junk again for the SATA3 instead of proper RAID5-able quad SATA3 is putting me off. The Asus Z9PE-D8 WS has vastly better PCI-E lane config and vastly better SATA3 config; the only obvious problem with it is the measly 8 DIMM slots means I'd have to use 16 GB DIMMs.

CodePhoenix


The borked PCI-E lane configuration of this board is extremely disappointing. I am looking at replacing my current SR-2 setup (running 6 GPUs and 4 SSDs in RAID-0), but the combination of 4 missing RAM slots, PCI-E switch hell again when the CPUs have more than enough lanes for direct, and Mavel junk again for the SATA3 instead of proper RAID5-able quad SATA3 is putting me off. The Asus Z9PE-D8 WS has vastly better PCI-E lane config and vastly better SATA3 config; the only obvious problem with it is the measly 8 DIMM slots means I'd have to use 16 GB DIMMs.

 
I have to agree, that no matter which high end board - it is extremely sad to see, that the 8 port SAS Controller chip is those insignificanto's ... that can only do raid 0, 1 and 10 ... this goes for all of the following : EVGA SR-X, the Asus Z9PE-D8 WS, the Asus Z9PE-D16, the SuperMicro Dual 2011.
 
Even now, the ASRock Extreme 11 last shown on the Computex 2012 - the absolute no-compromise board with so many power phases even that fails in this respect ... the LSI is used, (which is normally better than the Marvell, but also costlier), in this case LSI SAS 2308 - does not have raid 5 or 6
 
It is VERY strange, that companies, that create the absolute top-of-the-line but go back and save maybe 20-50 dollars on a controller chip. That nearly every only have raid 0,1,10 and JBOD ... only intel's ICH10R and the followup on the X79 chipset have a Raid5 (though mostly CPU processing power, and not a dedicated chip to XOR)
 
Best regards : CyberstormXIII

I am not so bothered about the lack of RAID-5 on the Marvel chip since the Intel controller can do it, but WHY does the SR-X only have 2 internal SATA3 ports when the Z9PE-D8 WS has four? Sure the Asus board uses Marvel as well, but at least you can do 4-way RAID SATA3 on that motherboard. On the SR-X it is impossible to do 4-way SATA3 even if you used the eSATA ports with loopback cables, because you can't span arrays across the two different controllers.
 
I've got most of the parts for my new build; twin 3.1 GHz Xeons, 128 GB DDR1600, quad Kingston HyperZ 3KIOPS 240GB SSDs (to go in RAID-0), triple Samsung 4TB HDDs for the secondary RAID-5 array, seven watercooled Radeon 7970s using the AquaComputer TwinConnect MAX7 manifold, CaseLabs Magnum STH10...   4 x triple 120mm rads, fans, CPU blocks, pumps etc should arrive soon;
 

 
Motherboard is a ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS though. Sorry EVGA, would have been happy to use an SR-3 if the PCI-E and SATA setups hadn't been broken.

CodePhoenix


I am not so bothered about the lack of RAID-5 on the Marvel chip since the Intel controller can do it, but WHY does the SR-X only have 2 internal SATA3 ports when the Z9PE-D8 WS has four? Sure the Asus board uses Marvel as well, but at least you can do 4-way RAID SATA3 on that motherboard. On the SR-X it is impossible to do 4-way SATA3 even if you used the eSATA ports with loopback cables, because you can't span arrays across the two different controllers.

I've got most of the parts for my new build; twin 3.1 GHz Xeons, 128 GB DDR1600, quad Kingston HyperZ 3KIOPS 240GB SSDs (to go in RAID-0), triple Samsung 4TB HDDs for the secondary RAID-5 array, seven watercooled Radeon 7970s using the AquaComputer TwinConnect MAX7 manifold, CaseLabs Magnum STH10...   4 x triple 120mm rads, fans, CPU blocks, pumps etc should arrive soon;



Motherboard is a ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS though. Sorry EVGA, would have been happy to use an SR-3 if the PCI-E and SATA setups hadn't been broken.

 
Ill just repeat again : seven watercooled Radeon 7970s 
 
DAMN boy ... Holy BIIIIIP ... now we need to see someone with 7x Devil 13 7970x2 (or 7990) or likewise 7x 690 - to beat your upcoming system - (all of them watercooled of course) although for folding capacity, it looks like the openCL compute on the 7970 is best (until GK110)
 
Still, this is most impressive - looking forward to seeing your build ;-)

Btw, CodePhoenix, how are you changing the 7970's to actually only take up 1 slot, as the waterblock itself will do most of that work in and of itself, but the Connectors usually take up two slots - how do you intend to modify them, or is there some special / standard way to do that ?
 
Best regards : CyberstormXIII

CyberstormXIII
DAMN boy ... Holy BIIIIIP ... now we need to see someone with 7x Devil 13 7970x2 (or 7990) or likewise 7x 690 - to beat your upcoming system - (all of them watercooled of course) although for folding capacity, it looks like the openCL compute on the 7970 is best (until GK110)

 
Some of the bitcoin miner guys do that using external racks and PCI-E extenders. Unfortunately however more than eight GPUs in a single system image basically does not work in Windows, and even in Linux it's a configuration nightmare and performance drops off sharply due to driver limitations. The second GPU on the Radeon 5970 and 6990 are in fact paperweights for GPGPU apps due to being locked into crossfire mode (disabling OpenCL) and I'm not convinced AMD will fix that for the 7990 (they consistently lied about fixing it in the 5970/6990 in 'the next release' for the last two years).
 
The objective of this system is to achieve the absolute maximum possible single-system performance in certain OpenCL apps which use double precision (ruling out 680 GTX instantly with the utterly worthless 1/24th of the SP rate) and moderate amounts of inter GPU communicccation. I originally specced four 7970s + two 7990s, getting up to the 8 GPU Windows driver limit and leaving one slot free for a twin 10-Gig Ethernet NIC, which would have worked very well with the 8x 8x 16x 8x 8x 16x 8x PCI-E setup on the Asus board. However the 7990 was repeatedly delayed, and I need this system right now; I don't have time to wait around for guys to test the 7990 for OpenCL capability and for a 7990 single slot waterblock to come out. So 7 x Radeon 7970 at 1300 MHz ish it is.
 

Btw, CodePhoenix, how are you changing the 7970's to actually only take up 1 slot, as the waterblock itself will do most of that work in and of itself, but the Connectors usually take up two slots - how do you intend to modify them, or is there some special / standard way to do that ?

 
I am using AquaComputer blocks which fit into one slot (just barely) as long as you don't use backplates - I considered using 6 GB cards (e.g. Sapphire Toxic) actually, but I wasn't sure if they'd be clearance for the memory chips on the reverse side. For the brackets I ordered seven of these from EK, since AquaComputer don't seem to have them for the 7970 yet. I also put some extra support rails into the case to hold up all the solid copper.
 
The most exotic component I'm using in this build is not electronic at all; it's the AquaComputer TwinConnect MAX-7; I am not aware of any other off-the-shelf solution for cooling 7 GPUs at single slot spacing. Standard usage is to screw blockers down into the channels to configure it for series operation and blank off the unused slots, but for this build I am going to use seven slots and all four ports to feed it from the top and the bottom simultaneously (running 7 GPU blocks in parallel). Essentially I am going to run dual loops each with a resevoir Liang D5, CPU block and twin parallel triple 120mm rads, with one connected to the top in/out ports of the MAX-7 and the other connected to the bottom in/out ports (connecting the loops in the middle of the manifold).
 
I am not 100% certain this will work, but I'll let you know. :)

Hello again.
 
Sounds good;-)
 
What I was trying to ask is - when you remove the stock cooler and replace it with a waterblock, and thus making it single slot - all that is good, BUT - the connectors usually stick up into the "2nd slot"-area, keeping the card taking two slots (at least, that's what it looks like on a 680/690 - and guessing from the pictures, I thought the 7970 was similar in this respect).
 
Anyways - I was wondering, if the above I described, how you're going to circumvent that, so that it TRUELY only takes one slot - are you going to desolder the connectors being raised to the 2nd slot from each card, or is it not a problem on the 7970's to begin with - or if it is - how do you manage it ?
 
Checked the first link you gave just now -- and seems that the 7970 isnt prone to the same problem that the 680's/690's are going to have if one should want to have them single slot. 
 
 
Thank you in advance.
 
Best regards : CyberstormXIII

can i use this board with the i7 3960x  ? thanks

larrydaddy


can i use this board with the i7 3960x  ? thanks

 
The i7 3960x is not listed as working with it, but theoretically it should, as the 3960x and E5-2600 series should be identical, except the E5-2600's have 2 QPI's and up to 8 cores, where the 3960x have 1 QPI and 6 cores. But remember, only 1 CPU can be used then. For dual CPU, you would need the E5-2600 series, and besides, running a SR-X with a 3960x wouldn't be the best option, if you bought that rather expensive processor (of course cheaper than the E5-2670-E5-2690 range). If you already have an 3960x I would recommend that you buy either a EVGA X79 Classified, ASUS Rampage IV Extreme, MSI Big Bang II, or the newest Asrock Extreme 11 (don't think this one is out yet); you would get much more overclocking potential from those.
 
With Theoretical, it all depends if there really is microcode in the BIOS to handle the 3960x - I know that the ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS can handle and use it (but again, a single 1-QPI processor on a Dual-socket motherboard is not the best idea - neither the EVGA SR-X nor the ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS are as strong in the overclocking department as the other X79 boards I mentioned before.
 
Best regards : CyberstormXIII

thank you i think i have to keep looking the best choice for my renderfarm