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Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Saturday, February 25, 2012 3:45 PM (permalink)
Just a heads up.
 
I posted in Crunching yesterday that there are issues with the latest nvidia drivers and cuda apps.  Forgot to post here as well.
It seems that when the driver puts the screen to sleep, that function also kills access to CUDA functions; which will obviously do nasty things to your GPU workunit.
 
current solutions are:
1. set your screen to never sleep
2. roll back to previous drivers
 
I don't think this is affecting everyone, I'm sure there would have been more posts about failing workunits if it were.  If you find you are failing GPU workunits consistently and have just upgraded the drivers, you've probably just discovered the reason why
 
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    Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:30 PM (permalink)
    mine seems to do it when it shuts my monitor off, and only on that gpu(i have 2).
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      Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:15 PM (permalink)
      Same here, halts my folding after a WU is complete. So it sits at 0% while I'm at working wasting precious folding time.


       
       

       
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        Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:32 PM (permalink)
        same issue im having
         

         
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          Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:07 PM (permalink)
          does rolling back the drivers fix the issue of sitting at 0%?
           
              


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            Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:17 PM (permalink)
            If you go into your power options and set it so your monitor doesn't turn off, it will fix the issue. 
             
            I've only noticed this problem when running 295.73.

            My computer finds cures for diseases and searches for aliens when I'm not gaming...what does yours do?

             

             

             

             
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              Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:02 PM (permalink)
              Whoops! Glad I saw this thread before I updated my drivers :)

               
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                Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Monday, February 27, 2012 7:09 AM (permalink)
                Woooh! Nice catch on that! I am running the 295.xx beta's on a 250 that fouls out constantly. Ill have to check this out and confirm that it corrects the problem.

                 
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                  Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Monday, February 27, 2012 7:14 AM (permalink)
                  i rolled back to the 285.62 drivers.
                  the 295.xx changed my power setting on the monitor only so it went to sleep.

                  
                   
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                    Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:32 AM (permalink)
                    I need my monitor to sleep so I can sleep. Haha
                     
                    As of now I just rolled back to 285.62
                     
                    I didn't notice an increase in performance with the 295's anyway. Just needed them to play the ME3 demo.


                     
                     

                     
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                      Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:58 AM (permalink)
                      Confimred that just simply disabling sleep on monitors corrects unstable issue.

                       
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                        Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Wednesday, February 29, 2012 3:41 PM (permalink)
                        Will it stop folding even if I manually turn off my monitor but still disable sleep on my monitor?


                         
                         

                         
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                          Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Wednesday, February 29, 2012 4:04 PM (permalink)
                          bg8780


                          Will it stop folding even if I manually turn off my monitor but still disable sleep on my monitor?

                           
                          Nope, that is what I'm am doing now and have not had any problems. 

                          My computer finds cures for diseases and searches for aliens when I'm not gaming...what does yours do?

                           

                           

                           

                           
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                            Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:13 PM (permalink)
                            If performance is any better with these drivers and if it gets me anymore PPD I'm willing to live with that minor inconvenience.


                             
                             

                             
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                              Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:40 PM (permalink)
                              Hard to say comparison wise......I've been out of the loop folding for a bit. But the latest V7 BETA and the latest WHQL work like a champ...
                               

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                                Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Thursday, March 01, 2012 4:08 AM (permalink)
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                                bg8780


                                Will it stop folding even if I manually turn off my monitor but still disable sleep on my monitor?


                                Nope, that is what I'm am doing now and have not had any problems. 


                                I've been doing it this way for a year with no issues. Just hit the monitor power button.
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                                  Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Thursday, March 01, 2012 7:29 AM (permalink)
                                  Despite these inconveinences, it seems we fold on. I welcome the extra 10k PPD bump now.
                                  Still getting 101xx's on my 2.8GHz P4 Dual, while my xeons fold away at 609x's.

                                   
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                                    Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Friday, March 02, 2012 12:37 PM (permalink)
                                    I think i may be having that problem, just came home and both gpu's had stopped from failing 10 wu's. Im gonna check. hopefully that is all it is.




                                     
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                                      Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Friday, March 02, 2012 5:03 PM (permalink)
                                      If they have failed the workunit 10 times, it's probably an issue relating to your card rather than the driver.
                                       
                                      you may need to reduce your overclock to get it to fold correctly; these new workunits run hot and seem to be very prone to errors.
                                       
                                          


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                                        Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Saturday, March 03, 2012 7:28 AM (permalink)
                                        I set my monitor to stop shutting off and havent failed a wu yet just manually shutting it off. 




                                         
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                                          Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:34 PM (permalink)
                                          That explains a lot  , thanks for posting this Simba .

                                           
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                                            Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Wednesday, March 07, 2012 10:32 PM (permalink)
                                            Same issue today, new units would not start, rolled back to 285 drivers, works fine now. Work units would fail 5 times before F@H would sleep.
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                                              Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:38 PM (permalink)
                                              Got the 295.xx drivers and w8 working now in Tracker. I turned off the power features (not easy to find now so I pinned it to my taskbar). Also, the Windows Update included an update to the 9800 so I installed that, rebooted, and now seems to be working. All is right with the world.
                                               
                                               
                                                
                                               
                                               
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                                                Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:33 PM (permalink)
                                                kody7839


                                                bg8780


                                                Will it stop folding even if I manually turn off my monitor but still disable sleep on my monitor?


                                                Nope, that is what I'm am doing now and have not had any problems. 

                                                This post is a lifesaver!
                                                 
                                                I'd upgraded to SLI at roughly the same time as updating to the new drivers, so was finally in a position to Fold 24/7 on a GPU with no impact to almost anything else...but kept getting these infuriating GPU job 'failures' that I couldn't figure out.
                                                 
                                                That was it - I disabled 'sleep' for the monitor (I just manually turn it off when I want it off), and I've been running for days, now, without issue.
                                                 
                                                Nice!

                                                 
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                                                  Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:58 PM (permalink)
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                                                  kody7839


                                                  bg8780


                                                  Will it stop folding even if I manually turn off my monitor but still disable sleep on my monitor?


                                                  Nope, that is what I'm am doing now and have not had any problems. 

                                                  This post is a lifesaver!

                                                  I'd upgraded to SLI at roughly the same time as updating to the new drivers, so was finally in a position to Fold 24/7 on a GPU with no impact to almost anything else...but kept getting these infuriating GPU job 'failures' that I couldn't figure out.

                                                  That was it - I disabled 'sleep' for the monitor (I just manually turn it off when I want it off), and I've been running for days, now, without issue.

                                                  Nice!

                                                   
                                                  Good job Kody!
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                                                    Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:55 PM (permalink)
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                                                    xanderf


                                                    kody7839


                                                    bg8780


                                                    Will it stop folding even if I manually turn off my monitor but still disable sleep on my monitor?


                                                    Nope, that is what I'm am doing now and have not had any problems. 

                                                    This post is a lifesaver!

                                                    I'd upgraded to SLI at roughly the same time as updating to the new drivers, so was finally in a position to Fold 24/7 on a GPU with no impact to almost anything else...but kept getting these infuriating GPU job 'failures' that I couldn't figure out.

                                                    That was it - I disabled 'sleep' for the monitor (I just manually turn it off when I want it off), and I've been running for days, now, without issue.

                                                    Nice!


                                                    Good job Kody!


                                                    lol!
                                                    that's  My first solution I offered in the OP!
                                                    hilarious!
                                                     
                                                        


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                                                      Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:11 PM (permalink)
                                                      I think it was Kody's follow-up post that you could "turn off the monitor" along with disabling sleep that was really the key.
                                                       
                                                      Just disabling 'sleep', after all, is not really much of an option if you have to leave the monitor on.  I think we all like to be able to sleep now and then!  
                                                       
                                                      Seriously, though, the whole thread is very helpful - I'm glad you brought it up at all, because I couldn't figure out what was going on with my own system.  It's a great community that can jump on these items and find workarounds so quickly!  Kody provided the A+B=C that was the winner for me, personally, though.

                                                       
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                                                        Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Friday, March 09, 2012 12:10 AM (permalink)
                                                        My 560 has had three UM errors so I've turned off advmethods until I can get it more stable. The 9800 is pumping out wus like a mofo. Actually, I see that it's stuck again which was happening before the w8 upgrade.
                                                         
                                                        After I shut it off for a day, it seems to running fine now. Sometimes, ignoring the computer for a day seems to fix stability problems. Sometimes google browsing photos of a recycling plant also works.
                                                          
                                                          
                                                         
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                                                          Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:11 PM (permalink)
                                                          I realized that I had multiple instances of fah_core 11 and 15 in Task Manager. After shutting down Tracker, I ended each. I think that's why my gpu 1 was getting stuck.
                                                           
                                                            
                                                           
                                                           
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                                                            Re:Latest Vidia Drivers and Folding/CUDA Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:06 PM (permalink)
                                                            Well i should have checked this thread sooner it seems. For whatever reason its been going on with mine and i couldnt nail down what it was. And now I assume this is what has killed the fan control on a Gigabyte card I had been running along with my EVGA card. So now I have an expensive paperweight until i find another cooling solution for it which is looking pretty bleak as it is a non-standard layout on the SOC Card.

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