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Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:37 AM (permalink)
 
 
this isnt anything new but maingear know a thing or two about cooling so i trust all the headechs are mostly gone
 
http://hothardware.com/Ne...terial-Meet-the-T1000/
 
^ they found a few degrees diffrence in temperatures compared to AS5.
 
If you guys can remember the name of the other company with blue pads for same price, please do post
 
  

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    Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:43 AM (permalink)
    ummmmm
    rebranded indigo xtreme anyone...
     
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      Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:58 AM (permalink)
      Wow, since when re-branding a, what, 4-year old product is innovation??
      There is not even a mention of Indigo Extreme in the article. Either this guy has no idea what he's writing about or he's into marketing ;)
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        Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:06 AM (permalink)
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        ummmmm
        rebranded indigo xtreme anyone...

         
        thats what that was called...!!
         
         
          

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          Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:23 AM (permalink)
          It's a collaboration with the manufactures of Indigo Extreme. Basically the same thing if not exactly the same. I spoke with them about an LGA 2011 solution and they said that it was pending patent acceptance and should be available shortly. I guess this is what they were refering to.
           
           
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            Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:53 AM (permalink)
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            It's a collaboration with the manufactures of Indigo Extreme. Basically the same thing if not exactly the same. I spoke with them about an LGA 2011 solution and they said that it was pending patent acceptance and should be available shortly. I guess this is what they were refering to.

            I'm really starting to love patent law when they are even patenting the size and shape something is cut to as a product. Talk about impossible to innovate with that level of legalese in the mix. I pity tech companies attempting to profit on anything. Patent law will end up poisoning innovation for decades to come at this rate.
            <message edited by Brad_Hawthorne on Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:14 AM>
             
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              Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:20 AM (permalink)
              Wow!
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                Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:08 AM (permalink)
                Hmm T1000...
                This must be the source of the TIM:


                 
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                  Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:32 AM (permalink)
                  Way too overpriced for the preformance you're getting
                  And why the hell does it need to be a kit?
                   
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                    Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:44 AM (permalink)
                    The "rebranding" question is answered in the comments below the article:
                    "By ChrisMorley on Feb 17, 2012
                    We own the rights to IX now.  We helped with the development of the Socket 2011 variant.  We felt like partnering with them would help them market the product better and be faster on the turnaround when it came to new sockets because of our close partnerships with AMD and Intel.  ;)  And yes, I do think Joel should have gotten better temps.  My guess is that he didn't achieve 100% reflow."
                     
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                      Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:48 AM (permalink)
                      They need to compare it to something better than AS5.....
                      Like PK1 or IC Diamond

                       
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                        Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:05 AM (permalink)
                        loveha


                        They need to compare it to something better than AS5.....
                        Like PK1 or IC Diamond

                        AS5 is the old standard everyone knows though.
                         
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                          Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:15 AM (permalink)
                          loveha


                          They need to compare it to something better than AS5.....
                          Like PK1 or IC Diamond

                           
                          Speaking from personal experience, IX is better than IC Diamond or PK-1 when applied exactly according to the instructions (that can be a hassle).  It's pricey, but if you want the best, that it is.

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                            Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:02 AM (permalink)
                            Indigo Xtreme FTW!!!
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                              Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 12:13 PM (permalink)
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                              loveha


                              They need to compare it to something better than AS5.....
                              Like PK1 or IC Diamond


                              Speaking from personal experience, IX is better than IC Diamond or PK-1 when applied exactly according to the instructions (that can be a hassle).  It's pricey, but if you want the best, that it is.

                               
                              Yep, and another old member we used to have on here would be starting a war of words over that last sentence you wrote using results from the company selling ic diamond. Lol, I still remember his arguments....
                               
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                                Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:17 PM (permalink)

                                 
                                Let just say poor contact is the worst you can do
                                 
                                So, if you are noob and you know how to follow instructions Indigo Xtreme is the best
                                 

                                 
                                Here is the better one though it involves the average
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                                  Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 1:54 PM (permalink)
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                                  loveha


                                  They need to compare it to something better than AS5.....
                                  Like PK1 or IC Diamond


                                  Speaking from personal experience, IX is better than IC Diamond or PK-1 when applied exactly according to the instructions (that can be a hassle).  It's pricey, but if you want the best, that it is.

                                  Well aware that IX is the best, but not many here bother messing with it.
                                   
                                  @ Brad
                                  I know AS5 is the standard that everyone knows, but most of us here are enthusiasts. Only time I think I would ever use AS5 is if I did not have any TIM and needed it now and had to go to the shack to get some.

                                   
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                                    Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:07 PM (permalink)
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                                    The "rebranding" question is answered in the comments below the article:
                                    "By ChrisMorley on Feb 17, 2012
                                    We own the rights to IX now.  We helped with the development of the Socket 2011 variant.  We felt like partnering with them would help them market the product better and be faster on the turnaround when it came to new sockets because of our close partnerships with AMD and Intel.  ;)  And yes, I do think Joel should have gotten better temps.  My guess is that he didn't achieve 100% reflow."

                                     
                                    So MAINGEAR bought IX outright?
                                    I saw the item in question a few days ago and was wondering why a company like MAINGEAR would have a solution when IX said a variant would be available shortly. After seeing the pictures, I can only conclude that this is the LGA 2011 socket solution that I was told about, and it looks like from now on the brand will carry the MAINGEAR name?
                                     
                                    My only concern is that the TIM gets overlooked because it (although being exactly the same thing as IX) carries the name of a company that can be placed in the ranks of Alienware and Origin and therefor won't be taken seriously because it carries the "stigma" if you will of said company and isn't produced by a third party.
                                     
                                    Not that I have heard negative things about MAINGEAR specifically, but I would personally shy away from using a solution from a company like that, if I were a less informed individual not knowing it's just IX with a slight difference in appearance.
                                     
                                    <message edited by _Bathory on Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:14 PM>
                                     
                                     
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                                      Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:15 PM (permalink)
                                      http://www.performance-pc...20dc1ec2a601a782341ba2
                                       
                                      At the bottom of the page it says "How to use Indigo Xtreme."
                                       
                                       
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                                        Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 4:55 PM (permalink)
                                        guys im going to jump on this one if frys accepts my return on the havik 140
                                         
                                        will pair this with an h80 and will post back results next week. its too good to be true but i want it
                                         
                                          

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                                          Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:17 PM (permalink)
                                          I ordered one too.
                                           
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                                            Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:36 PM (permalink)
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                                              Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:48 PM (permalink)
                                              So?
                                               
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                                                Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:27 PM (permalink)
                                                sorry
                                                but I use coollaboratory liquid ultra
                                                18c less then ICD7
                                                 
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                                                  Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:11 PM (permalink)
                                                  voodoo do-er


                                                  sorry
                                                  but I use coollaboratory liquid ultra
                                                  18c less then ICD7

                                                  18c seems exaggerated, and that stuff stains the CPU


                                                   
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                                                    Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:36 PM (permalink)
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                                                      Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:56 PM (permalink)
                                                      voodoo do-er


                                                      sorry
                                                      but I use coollaboratory liquid ultra
                                                      18c less then ICD7

                                                       
                                                      You most likely didn't have the best contact when using ICD7.  Even though I am not a fan anymore, there is just no way that can be accurate.
                                                       
                                                      http://www.hardwaresecret...up-January-2012/1468/5
                                                       
                                                      Both those items are in these tests.  The spread between the best and absolute worst is roughly 7 degrees. I still use Ceramique due to its non-conductivity and all round ease of use.   
                                                       
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                                                        Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:31 PM (permalink)
                                                        The tested toothpaste, mustard, chocolate, spray oil and butter o.O
                                                        mayo tied with my Noctua NT-H1....
                                                        Hey now, they tested the mayo at 13 degrees and noctua at 26. correct me if Im wrong but doesn't room temp have an exponential effect on load temps? Those deltas assume linear relationship.
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                                                          Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:13 AM (permalink)
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                                                          voodoo do-er


                                                          sorry
                                                          but I use coollaboratory liquid ultra
                                                          18c less then ICD7


                                                          You most likely didn't have the best contact when using ICD7.  Even though I am not a fan anymore, there is just no way that can be accurate.

                                                          http://www.hardwaresecret...up-January-2012/1468/5

                                                          Both those items are in these tests.  The spread between the best and absolute worst is roughly 7 degrees. I still use Ceramique due to its non-conductivity and all round ease of use.   

                                                          it was applied right, I reapplied it not long before I switch to it aswell  and the temps were about the same the second time
                                                          i tried ac5 too, it was about 20c more
                                                           
                                                          on icd7 it would load in the upper 70c and with clu it is in the lower 60c
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                                                            Re:Maingear claims they have revolutionalized thermal compounds Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:51 AM (permalink)
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                                                            voodoo do-er


                                                            sorry
                                                            but I use coollaboratory liquid ultra
                                                            18c less then ICD7

                                                            18c seems exaggerated, and that stuff stains the CPU

                                                             
                                                            And it's gallium based to boot...
                                                             
                                                            I'll stick with PK-1 for the foreseeable future.
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