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Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:46 AM (permalink)
My parents keep telling me to shut the PC down when I go to sleep (PC in bedroom FYI). They say that it's bad for your health and that they emit a lot of "radiation" when running. I laugh at this statement. I'll bet you guys would too.
 
Any thoughts? I sleep with the PC on 99.9% of the time. Been doing this for at least 8 years and I haven't noticed my skin turning green or silk flying out of the tip of my fingers
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    Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:57 AM (permalink)
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    My parents keep telling me to shut the PC down when I go to sleep (PC in bedroom FYI). They say that it's bad for your health and that they emit a lot of "radiation" when running. I laugh at this statement. I'll bet you guys would too.

    Any thoughts? I sleep with the PC on 99.9% of the time. Been doing this for at least 8 years and I haven't noticed my skin turning green or silk flying out of the tip of my fingers

    lol they are nuts
    although old crt's can
     
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      Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:59 AM (permalink)
      Everything emits radiation, including the human body... The critical question is does anything emit enough radiation to cause health issues. There is no conclusive evidence that any consumer products on the market emit dangerous levels of radiation. They wouldn't be on the market if they did.
       
      Ask your parents to explain to you the real reason why they don't want your computer on while you're not using it. My personal guess is they don't like the power bill.
      <message edited by Brad_Hawthorne on Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:41 AM>
       
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        Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:01 AM (permalink)
        http://green-light.hubpag...-of-Computer-Radiation
         

        Since a laptop is used near the groin area, infertility or birth defects are also believed to be possible

        lollollollollololololol
        http://www.emwatch.com/Computers.htm
         


        No wonder computer users get sick so often!

        I have not been sick in for ever
        <message edited by voodoo do-er on Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:03 AM>
         
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          Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:54 AM (permalink)
          People said stuff like that about cellphones too. And i dont think we can get enough radiation from computers to cause any harm.
            
           
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            Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:37 AM (permalink)
            voodoo do-er


            http://green-light.hubpag...-of-Computer-Radiation


            Since a laptop is used near the groin area, infertility or birth defects are also believed to be possible

            lollollollollololololol
            http://www.emwatch.com/Computers.htm



            No wonder computer users get sick so often!

            I have not been sick in for ever

            Psychologists are the answer for OCD and Munchausen syndrome. 
             
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              Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:55 AM (permalink)
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              People said stuff like that about cellphones too. And i dont think we can get enough radiation from computers to cause any harm.

              Cell phones actually do give off harmful radiation but it's so low that it really wont hurt people. Of course they're still investigating long term exposure since cell phones became really popular about a decade ago. I'm sure newer designs have also improved upon this as well.
               
               
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                Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 6:12 AM (permalink)
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                My parents keep telling me to shut the PC down when I go to sleep (PC in bedroom FYI). They say that it's bad for your health and that they emit a lot of "radiation" when running. I laugh at this statement. I'll bet you guys would too.

                Any thoughts? I sleep with the PC on 99.9% of the time. Been doing this for at least 8 years and I haven't noticed my skin turning green or silk flying out of the tip of my fingers


                its a myth. computers dont emit enough radation to harm you.
                I sleep with my laptop next to my head.

                 
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                  Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:16 AM (permalink)
                  voodoo do-er


                  http://green-light.hubpag...-of-Computer-Radiation


                  Since a laptop is used near the groin area, infertility or birth defects are also believed to be possible

                  lollollollollololololol
                  http://www.emwatch.com/Computers.htm



                  No wonder computer users get sick so often!

                  I have not been sick in for ever

                   
                  the laptop thing is kind of true, not because of radiation but because of heat


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                    Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:21 AM (permalink)
                    Scroll down and read Marius's comments. Very informative. Perfect ammo to shut down a crazy!
                     
                    "
                    I see people have problems understanding radiation and how to quantify things.
                    I’m a electronic engineer and specialize in communication systems.
                     
                    One thing I would like to make clear is that electromagnetic waves are transverse waves that exist of an electric field perpendicular to a magnetic field. Electromagnetic waves are not particles you can wipe of your face. It can be compared with sound waves, the energy only exist along as the wave exist.
                     
                    Harmful radiation is another matter, yes harmful electromagnetic radiation does exist. It will depend on frequency and intensity. For a wave to be harmful it needs to cross a threshold of destructive intensity. The EU set the SAR for microwave to 2Watt per kg body tissue. To the non-technical person it means nothing leaving people vulnerable to absorb any information weather it is true or false, most people cannot quantify or make sense of such measures.
                     
                    If you are exposed 50 000 lux of white light, it can damage your eyes, so we can say it is harmful electromagnetic radiation, but 300 lux of light in typical office will in your entire life not harm your eyes at all, still it is the same radiation but seen as harmless electromagnetic radiation.
                     
                    Just a fun fact for people who think all electromagnetic radiation is bad, visible light is electromagnetic radiation in the visible frequency range which your eyes are very sensitive for. So for anyone who want to avoid all electromagnetic radiation should stay out of any form of light as well.
                     
                    180dB of sound intensity can damage your ears in a very short period of time, so yes sound is harmful radiation at that intensity. But you can be exposed to 60dB of sound that is equal to a normal conversation and these potentially harmful waves that can damage your ears at high intensity will be harmless even if you are exposed to it for your entire life.
                    A 900km wind of a hurricane can destroy a city on moments, a 30km wind can blow for hundreds of years and cause no damage.
                    The magic word in all these examples including electromagnetic radiation is “threshold” the point where destruction of damage occur.
                    If you put your head in front of a 800watt magnetron like in you microwave oven it will heat up in seconds due to dielectric heating and will cause death in moments, if you stand under a cell phone tower (cell site) it will do absolutely nothing. The same as what sound of 20db (whisper) will do nothing to your hearing, same as candle light do nothing to your eyes and A 30km/h wind will not destroy your city.
                     
                    The suns total radiation on the earth is 250Watt per square meter, standing directly under a cell phone tower measures at most 0.01Watt per square meter, the EU allowable safe exposure to microwave electromagnetic radiation termed as SAR Specific absorption rate is 2Watt per kg body tissue, worrying about cell phone tower’s radiation is like sitting in a sound proof room in dead quite silence worrying that the sound intensity will damage your ears. Or to lay outside at night watch the stars wile worrying of getting a sun burn.
                    LCD screens use liquid crystal to polarize the light, it’s only a filter controlled by electronic pulses, the filter polarize the light and control its intensity from a normal light source, its electromagnetic radiation is mostly in the visible light spectrum and of harmless intensity as you can see with your own eyes.
                     
                    CRT tubes have small amount of x-ray due to the bombardment of electrons form the electron gun but is way below the harmful threshold to humans. Its normally way bellow 0.5 milliroentgens per hour (mR/h) (0.13 µC/(kg•h) or 36 pA/kg) at a distance of 5 cm.
                    Although I mostly don’t believe propaganda from speculation. I do have my doubts about the safety of long term use of cellular phones and microwave ovens since both these devices operate close to the acceptable safe limits and can have technical problems that can cause them to radiate above the acceptable safe threshold of electromagnetic radiation in extreme cases.
                     
                    For computers there are some electromagnetic radiation, a CPU clocking on 2.4GHz will produce a microwave radiation since all alternating currents will produce electromagnetic radiation, it is way below any threshold of concern.
                    1) Sun Average radiation on the earth surface = 250W/m2
                    2) Leakage of a microwave oven at 5cm < 10W/m2
                    3) Radiation under cell phone tower < 0.01W/m2
                    Make sure the radiation is in harmful frequency spectrum or classification, make sure the intensity is of dangerous levels before concerns should be raised.
                     
                    There are very well defines safety threshold levels and all accreditation and conformances to standard are subjected to these thresholds. I have been reading the most ridiculous claims made by people such as using fans to blow the radiation of your computer away which make as much sense of saying that I will blow your computers sound away with a fan or more accurately to blow the light (electromagnetic wave) away with a fan.
                     
                    By the way, a fan also produce electromagnetic radiation. Some powerful fans can even cause interference on your TV set, that’s how much electromagnetic radiation do they produce, but although it can be high intensity it is on a safe frequency range. Gestures like wiping electromagnetic particles of your face. There is no such thing as electromagnetic particles. Right up to university physics there have never been such a particle electromagnetic propagation is a wave like sound. Wiping it of your face, makes as much sense as wiping sound or the white light of you bed lamp of your face. It is so easy to convince the public who cannot quantify or understand these measures to get them completely paranoid with these ridiculous claims.
                     
                    I work with electromagnetic wave propagation every day, design electronic devices, antenna and radio systems, I work with accreditation systems and national and international standards in RF communication. I feel very comfortable in this pool of electromagnetic radiation as much as I feel comfortable in the pool of visible day light since daylight is electromagnetic radiation. I have no concerns since I know what it is, how it works and how to quantify the magnitudes of it.
                     
                    But my advice to the public who have concerns are, if you are in a weak cell phone reception area, where the phones transmitter will work much harder, if your cell phone seem to have signal problems, or use a cell phone all day it is safe to use a speaker phone or head set since there are valid reasons to debate the long terms effects on this reasonably high microwave levels. Cell phones operate near the safe microwave (SAR) limits. if your microwave oven is old and rusty or door doesn’t close properly, please have it checked out. For most other domestic devices there are no scientific evidence of danger.
                     
                    Nature it self surrounds us with radiation from nuclear radiation to electromagnetic radiation of the sun, these radiations are mostly much more like you can see in my three point table above. Most electronic devices only be detected with the most sensitive of test equipment and there is not reason to be concerned. You do not ever have to spend any money on devices that protects you against it no matter what sales talk these people try to use. Accept sun glasses and sun tan lotion if you pan on going out into the sun for long."
                     
                    Quite interesting.
                    <message edited by Remorce on Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:22 AM>

                     
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                      Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:34 AM (permalink)
                      there is a significant difference between ionizing radiation (type that will kill you) and the typical radiation types emitted from electronics.
                       
                      your parents are full of it.
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                        Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 8:55 AM (permalink)
                        If they are worried about this, they better call the radio stations, tv stations, people that run sattelites, ect, cause I got news for ya, they are pushing a whole lot more radiation than your pc. 
                         
                        Next time they say this to you, just look them square in the eye, and say this while gesturing around your head area.
                         
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                          Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:12 AM (permalink)
                          Im sure your parents are just being discreate with you, trying to send an alarming message and just want it turned off, it all adds up eventually in the electric bill.

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                            Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:07 PM (permalink)
                            parents will make up random crap when they dont like something, for example my mom tells me to keep the phone in a different room when sleeping "because its bad for you"
                             
                                           
                             
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                              Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:36 PM (permalink)
                              EMF radiation from a computer is about a same as a cellphone being stuck to ur skin all day
                               
                              just drink plenty of water and take breaks you be fine
                               
                                

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                                Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:18 PM (permalink)
                                If your living at home and are not paying for anything I would look into giving them money for power.
                                + i wouldn't leave my computer one because the PSU only has so many hours before it dies.
                                                 
                                                                                                                   
                                 
                                 
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                                  Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:23 PM (permalink)
                                  I doubt it but I usually turn mine off when I go to sleep or leave the house.
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                                    Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:23 PM (permalink)
                                    CRTs emit radiation, but the most harmful device in your home is the hair dryer.  Look it up.  The best part is that you aim the thing right at your head...


                                     
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                                      Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:21 PM (permalink)
                                      Well that clears it up.
                                       
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                                        Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:31 PM (permalink)
                                        Sounds like a "Y U NO" waiting to happen...
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                                          Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:47 PM (permalink)
                                          Thats a first I've heard anyone complain about that.

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                                            Re:Computer + Radiation... Myth? Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:49 PM (permalink)
                                            Also gotta mention, they complain about electric bills all the time too, so it's not the only reason they want me to turn off the PC.
                                             
                                            Anybody else out there with "old fashion" oriental parents would know that they come up with some pretty crazy ideas. I had to grow up with it

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