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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:35 AM (permalink)

JJVAL

I really think being a admin of that server really went to this guys head ..
Banning people telling people what to do and running the server as he see's fit like he owns it and he acts like he owns the game as well ...

um that admin would be me btw and this is coming form SOMEONE WHO GOT CAUGHT HACKING! and not only that, got caught on an egc server with an egc tag, thats the lowest of the low. if your going to hack you don't do it in you own home

, you go to someone elses house and act a fool. the funny part is i didn't even ban you another admin did.

but since this topic has gone this way i would like to know EVGA's stance on this so i know how as a admin to treat it. i agree with biohazard that its against EA's tos technically and if we are going by the book i don't see why we cant ban people that openly admit to using this.

just my 2cents but ill follow what ever protocol is set forth by EVGA. i've PMed the powers that be to ask them to review this, if its an open response ill post it.

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:34 AM (permalink)

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JJVAL

I really think being a admin of that server really went to this guys head ..
Banning people telling people what to do and running the server as he see's fit like he owns it and he acts like he owns the game as well ...

um that admin would be me btw and this is coming form SOMEONE WHO GOT CAUGHT HACKING! and not only that, got caught on an egc server with an egc tag, thats the lowest of the low. if your going to hack you don't do it in you own home, you go to someone elses house and act a fool. the funny part is i didn't even ban you another admin did.

but since this topic has gone this way i would like to know EVGA's stance on this so i know how as a admin to treat it. i agree with biohazard that its against EA's tos technically and if we are going by the book i don't see why we cant ban people that openly admit to using this.

just my 2cents but ill follow what ever protocol is set forth by EVGA. i've PMed the powers that be to ask them to review this, if its an open response ill post it.

Im not a hack and you know it, and anyway who really cares , THIS IS A GAME !!!!!!!!! and i cant believe that you get that wrapped up in a game to act like this, man grow up !!!!

And by the way the injector graphics mod if anything your at a disavantage do to the extra sun glare and excessive smoke on certian maps..

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wrinvert Total Posts : 2818 Joined: 5/1/2007 Location: lost forever Status: offline Ribbons: 15 Folding: 49,267,894	Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:41 AM (permalink) not a hack? you admitted to it in this thread. http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1442090
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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:42 AM (permalink)

JJVAL

Im not a hack and you know it, and anyway who really cares , THIS IS A GAME !!!!!!!!! and i cant believe that you get that wrapped up in a game to act like this, man grow up !!!!

And by the way the injector graphics mod if anything your at a disavantage do to the extra sun glare and excessive smoke on certian maps..

JJVAL

I really think being a admin of that server really went to this guys head ..
Banning people telling people what to do and running the server as he see's fit like he owns it and he acts like he owns the game as well ...

You were caught using a hack/cheat in an EVGA server and admitted to it in the thread wrinvert posted ( http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1442090 ). Multiple admins decided upon the ban after observing your actions over the course of 1.5 hrs. As a result of these actions you have lost all credibility with the EVGA gaming community. I can't believe you would get so wrapped up in a game that you would download a cheat in order to improve your game-play. Grow up man!!!!!

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:40 AM (permalink)

Personally I use the FXAA Injector for the fact that it adds a better scheme color.

I hate the dead colors the game has by default, and I will risk being banned if that means I can meanwhile play with true real life colors, and not some green/gray tone crap.

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 6:04 AM (permalink)

sadly a tool like this can be used for bad ,imagine someone taking the code and altering the files to show less giving the person better line of sight .Its a two edged sword.That is why IMO and the EA TOS/EULA these things are not allowed .
EA has already said it not allowed.But unless it comes out and names it no one seems to take it seriously .It is kind of like someone telling you killing is illegal,and then people killing people with a knife or fork and saying hey they didn't say forks or knives were illegal .Since they already made it clear in the TOS/EULA its not allowed they dont need to post again that it still is not allowed.They would post it is allowed,and it would be a clear and open post saying we have no problem with its use in game to change and alter files while being injected with a program.
But they have not .I really hope they ok it ,but knowing how these things work (cheat injectors/hooks ,loaders etc) it cant be as it opens a door for other not so honest tweaking or "other" things.
I wont go into details as to how because saying that would get me banned from places where i gather info and submit what i can to Even Balance,and 5+ years of submitting solid cheats,injectors ,hooks would end .
Im sure its stunning ,and by all the pictures it is .Its to bad BF3 couldn't just alter there own code to do this,but then you must ask yourself ...if this simple tool can why haven't they?IF all the FXAA tool users petitioned EA/Dice to allow these settings in game as default there would be no need for this.
Good luck to all ,and if you decide to petition EA to makes these settings a option in game ill be right there with you just tell me where to post or sign.

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 6:06 AM (permalink)

I have already talked to zh1nt0 via Twitter long ago and they said they were discussing to officially allow this FXAA Injector, but as of today, there has been no one telling us not to use it. Even Admins from GGC Streaming are using it and they said it's not harmful at all.

In the meanwhile, I will be using it until someone tells me otherwise from DICE or PB, with the risk of being called a hacker. :P

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 6:47 AM (permalink)

My point is/was no one should have to say not use it when its already been said by EA/Dice in the TOS/EULA we all agreed to .GGC isn't PB or EA ,while i respect them its not there call nor are they in a position of authority to make such statements they are young in the ANTI Cheat department (2007) .Lets not forget the recent GGC screw up that somehow allowed people to get banned http://battlefieldo.com/t...ti-cheat-streams.3423/

We are bringing back the unerring of punkbuster back for a 3rd season. We have selected ggc-stream as the target since they have the most streaming bf3 servers and makes it very easy to add fake bans.

In 2011 we hit them with a mass ban wave and now were are banning real players from battlelog while ggc-stream is totally unaware. We have framed 150+ bf3 players alone.

We made it possible for ggc-stream to find 5 of them recently to expose how flawed their system is.
http://s18.postimage.org/tq4r2zmif/framedplayer5.png
http://s18.postimage.org/gflhn7lbr/framedplayer4.png
http://s18.postimage.org/5eqci6t2v/framedplayer3.png
http://s18.postimage.org/u6pypfa9j/framedplayer2.png
http://s18.postimage.org/wmrs39sc7/framedplayer1.png

They even denied appeals of players we framed saying the bans were legit. They posted on BATTLELOG http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...4347841952673/

We even banned a few esl admins for bf3 which ggc quickly removed.

Ill have more faith in them when they dont leave such a HUGE hole for things like this to happen.(inexcusable for a site like this to have that security not locked down to verify servers,ACI and AON do )
I do hope it gets added as a "part" of the game and ends this open security hole from being exploited.

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 6:52 AM (permalink)

You should inform your self a bit better.

It wasn't GGC's security whole whom they broke into, it was Punkbuster's. Of course PB blamed GGC so they wouldn't damage their own image.

You should have a good read with this;

http://www.ggc-stream.com/news/132/Fakebans+or+not%3F

Of course we should still blame GGC Streams because they are weaker than PB.

Read that link and you'll see that even PB themselves admitted their security whole.

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:07 AM (permalink)

this is old news,the PB security side of any ban is to be confirmed by them not PB.ACI and AON both have features in place to verify a server is legit before accepting bans .Its inexcusable
this is why AON and ACI have not had these issues ,they closed and locked it down so it cant occur

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:09 AM (permalink)

It is PBBans themselves admitting their security hole, do you really need more information about this?

Blaming GGC-Streams is ridiculous.

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:12 AM (permalink)

Yes, I'm sorry.

Just look at the thread;

http://artificialaiming.net/forum/general-discussions/18646-unerring-punkbuster-season-2-we-did-lulz.html

They have admitted to be able to get into PB's security hole and ban anyone they want.

I don't understand why we are blaming GGC Streams here, it's all about PB's security hole.

Please forgive me if it's not allowed to post that link, I will remove it asap.

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:26 AM (permalink)

All im saying is it doesn't happen with ACI and AON (both have been around much longer then GGC doing PB games)because they have servers verified .GGC at this time would say anything to calm the masses. Servers not coming from an official IP or a trusted private member IP are re-directed to another folder and another tool analyzes them for inconsistencies,streaming sends the PB log live from the PB server (not the written file) to the repository. They can't edit anything on their end to send in fake lines. Then they just that validate there's no inconsistencies between the live ip feed and the log .Tada

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:28 AM (permalink)

I have just proved you that Artificial Aiming did reach a security hole from Battlefield 2 back in 2007 and they could ban anyone they wanted, all they needed was to rent an official ranked server, that's it.

And that's the same thing they have done in Battlefield 3, same security hole, sadly.

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BioHazardSperm Total Posts : 8633 Joined: 12/2/2007 Location: Maine [EVGA Affiliate Code : 88LSZ0E7HK] Status: offline Ribbons: 22 Folding: 1,180,918	Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:30 AM (permalink) again read my post.You cant alter a live log from a written log ...its called streaming for a reason Steam Heatware EVGAWeb_ShaneD: BHS knows our terms better than some of our support agents EVGAWeb_ShaneD we don't care, we do what we want! (out of context but funny )
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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:36 AM (permalink)

If it makes you feel better it was tried on me in another PB game ,it was refused as the live log did not match the streamed written log file .

Im hated in one PB game by alot of people on the cheating side ,enough so that it was tried 28 times in 3 days with various servers ,all denied

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 AM (permalink)

Well you tell me then how they managed to ban so many people with false positives, because that did happen back in 2007 when GGC Streams still didn't exist and many innocent people were banned.

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:54 AM (permalink)

in COD4 2007 GGC got owned the same way .In the words of someone at AA "That being Punkbuster's inadequacy and obsolescence, coupled with these flawed steaming sites such as PBBans and GGC-Stream.

Enough said :)

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:16 AM (permalink)

Both have their security flaws/holes, but we're not the ones to blame GGC Streams entirely.

Both are crap, end of discussion. :D

Also, what's that "ACI AON" you're talking about? Is it an anti-cheat they used for Battlefield 2? I don't remember installing or anything about that back when I played BF2 in 2006-2007.

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:36 AM (permalink)

I was saying they could have done more to protect from this happening.Sure it would require more work and hours on there end but banning a innocent player is not worth the saved time IMO. IE "flawed steaming"

ACI and AON have been around since 2002 ish with America's Army then COD and BF series PB games .AON has recently decided to focus only on AA3 im told.
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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:39 AM (permalink)

Are those better than PB and VAC for example? I wish Battlefield 3 had something better than PB.

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:15 AM (permalink)

How do you guys set your BF3 "ribbons" below ur avatar in the forum? :P

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:31 AM (permalink)

lulz GGC still are idiots even AA admits it
Cant post the link dont want to show any praise or web hits for them.
figured an update was due since we have been quiet for weeks.

just to let everyone know the exploit was never fixed, even though ea said it was. ggc didn't do much to prevent it from happening. we are still adding fake bf3 bans (75+ so far since our last attempt) and now we are adding fake bans to other games like bad company 2 and call of duty 4.

we won't be revealing any bans that are fake this time as ggc had their warning from the last time but never listened. we can still spoof bans within minutes of signing up on their site. all they do now is check the current ip a member is using with the server ip being added and block it if they match with a "no home servers allowed" message.

ggc this is for you

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:40 AM (permalink)

I seriously don't understand why you'd hurt innocent people who have nothing to do with GGC.

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Re:FXAA Injector Mod for BF3 Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:43 AM (permalink)

any AC group is a target for the cheating groups its to be expected .It isn't the people they are targeting its GGC's enforcement(ban lists) on servers .

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