Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Brad_Hawthorne)

Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:19:36 GMT

_Nite_

NEC has one thats 2880x900, biggest single screen surround monitor that I know of

http://www.engadget.com/p...dwx-panoramic-monitor/

Look at the profile view of the display in that link. It's a rear projection display with a really huge back panel. Next look at the Fresnel lens issues where the blend areas should be on the screen area itself. You can clearly see the border areas between the DLP projection guns where they're butting. Throw in $6500 price tag and it turns into a totally dysfunctional curiosity for those that don't look at it too closely. That display has never been the answer to anything.

2880x900 = FAIL
Screen back case size = FAIL
Fresnel lens issues and projector butting = FAIL
$6500 = FAIL
Hoping that you'd miss these things and buy it anyways = FAIL

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (_Nite_)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:00:19 GMT

moose517

i say we need 21:9 format monitors already hehe. even wider so that movie experience will be freaking awesome! and you could almost do gaming without needing monitors in surround. philips has a 21:9 2560x1080 screen out there, would love to get my hands on one, just i'm sure PC support for that particular res would be crap.

NEC has one thats 2880x900, biggest single screen surround monitor that I know of

http://www.engadget.com/p...dwx-panoramic-monitor/

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (moose517)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:09:50 GMT

i say we need 21:9 format monitors already hehe. even wider so that movie experience will be freaking awesome! and you could almost do gaming without needing monitors in surround. philips has a 21:9 2560x1080 screen out there, would love to get my hands on one, just i'm sure PC support for that particular res would be crap.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Brad_Hawthorne)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:38:37 GMT

Mac_vista64

I wonder if current gpu's are limited to 2560x1600 - seems like you can have two 27-30" displays now - or that could be per dual-link DVI or Display Port? and need 1.5GB+ VRAM each to function.
GTX 690 w/ 4-6GB monster.

Since the NVIDIA 400-series and AMD 6000-series the GPU maximum pixel limits are 16k x 16k. The issue is not GPU processing limitations but rather port bandwidth limitation. Only DisplayPort 1.2 and HDMI 1.4a have the bandwidth to push the pixel counts this display has through a single cable.

This LCD seems to be two seamless LCDs within the same case. The two port requirement limits it's usefulness. This is pretty standard for 4kHD though to use multi-port to be able to push the pixel count. This is where AMD really shines compared to NVIDIA. NVIDIA Geforce only does 3x1 span mode while AMD does 2x1, 3x1, 4x1, 5x1, 2x2 and 3x2 span modes. 4kHD typically uses two or four ports input. That'll soon change with more wide spread DisplayPort 1.2 adoption though. You'll note the NVIDIA 600-series will have one DP 1.2 port standard on cards. This opens the plausibility of single port 4kHD ability now to everyone. I see no motivation for display manufacturers to push 4kHD to consumers though. They're still milking 1080p for all it's worth and 1600p is solidly price fixed at $1k+.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Brad_Hawthorne)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:29:40 GMT

ManBearPig

Brad_Hawthorne

Taking bets this uses four DVI inputs. Only Eyefinity 2x2L can game with it.

The article says "To connect this monitor to any modern graphics hardware on your PC it requires a pair of dual-link DVI connections or a pair of DisplayPort connections in order to have enough bandwidth for peak refresh rates."

Ah, so it's Eyefinity 2x1L or 2x1P then. 2x1 span modes on NVIDIA Geforce side went away with XP. Largely useless to NVIDIA users unless you're doing desktop only work. Any modern AMD GPU can use it to game with though using Eyefinity.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (starsmine)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:16:24 GMT

2560x1600 is one ports limit. not the limit a gpu can output. It takes 2 dual link dvi or 2 DP to work. Every GPU with those output options on the back can do it.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (sinephase)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:01:34 GMT

Eru_JRRT

Why can't we just get one standard width to height ratio?

16:9 isn't the standard cinematic ratio, not that there is really a "standard". I think it's often 1.83:1 or something like that. This display would be roughly 2:1 which is nicer for cinematics. What I really want to have is a standard for measuring ratios :P

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (boylerya)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:58:26 GMT

Mac_vista64

I wonder if current gpu's are limited to 2560x1600 - seems like you can have two 27-30" displays now - or that could be per dual-link DVI or Display Port? and need 1.5GB+ VRAM each to function.
GTX 690 w/ 4-6GB monster.

My guess is display port since that is the top of the line connection for the mainstream public. Another possibility is if they are using a connection that has not been released yet. Either way, my 1600p is more than enough let alone 2160p. Really only necessary for a display that is around 60".

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Mac_vista64)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:46:16 GMT

I wonder if current gpu's are limited to 2560x1600 - seems like you can have two 27-30" displays now - or that could be per dual-link DVI or Display Port? and need 1.5GB+ VRAM each to function.
GTX 690 w/ 4-6GB monster.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Bkatt)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:35:18 GMT

dat price.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (ManBearPig)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:31:57 GMT

The picture shows the monitor being hooked up by 2 DisplayPorts. So it probably was 2 GPUs with one DisplayPort from each. That's my guess.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (_Nite_)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:20:33 GMT

I'm curious what video card they used for dirt 3 to do 4096x2160 cause I though the max that all cards supported was 2560x1600

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (ManBearPig)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:43:37 GMT

Brad_Hawthorne

Taking bets this uses four DVI inputs. Only Eyefinity 2x2L can game with it.

The article says "To connect this monitor to any modern graphics hardware on your PC it requires a pair of dual-link DVI connections or a pair of DisplayPort connections in order to have enough bandwidth for peak refresh rates."

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Brad_Hawthorne)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:29:08 GMT

Taking bets this uses four DVI inputs. Only Eyefinity 2x2L can game with it.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Hag3rd)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:04:55 GMT

Going to NAB next week....maybe they will have a giveaway for it

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Heavenly)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:01:22 GMT

Eru_JRRT
Back on topic, what is the actual purpose of such a high res monitor?

Hospitals need the high pixel density to view every last detail on x-rays and MRI's.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (jimmycricket)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:46:59 GMT

Looks like those 4GB 680s coming out are gonna be put to use

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Max Silencio)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:18:14 GMT

My 30" Dell feels more and more being undersized. Paid under 1000 Euro
for it. But for an increase of 6" a price tag of $33.000?
Can't see a benefit personally. My next upgrade should be at least 40".

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Solfaur)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:51:02 GMT

Yea heard about those some months ago, imo will take a good while until this resolution gets adopted by high end consumer market though.

ManBearPig

Only $35,700

Must get 3 for surround.

I'd go for 6.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (_Nite_)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:57:26 GMT

russianhaxor

Old news. I've seen these a few times now...

I will be getting one form EIZO very soon :)

its not old to everyone lol

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (russianhaxor)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:47:37 GMT

Old news. I've seen these a few times now...

I will be getting one form EIZO very soon :)

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Sumazi)

Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:23:47 GMT

Can't wait til that's like the norm...

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (starsmine)

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:00:04 GMT

movies get recorded at whatever the director wants to record in, 16x9 came in as a standard to minimize lack bars among all common aspect ratios, it really was not ment to be a standard to make content in that ratio.

16*10 is a far better work space resolution then 16*9, a 24 in 1920*1200 can have 1 to 1 scailing of two sheets of computer paper, it can allow you to work on 16*9 content with your toolbar still there. Its just better for work. Personally I wish the 16*10 standard would come back. I would prefer to spend 200 bucks on a monitor instead of 300 due to lack of supply due to lack of demand.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (_Nite_)

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:54:01 GMT

yea I prefer 16:9 as well, thats why I have 1920x1080 instead of 1920x1200, don't have to worry about black bars around movies and such

Others like 1200 for the extra space to work with on the desktop, all depends on the user.

anyway the actual purpose of monitor this big would be great for 3d animation work, photoshop work, video editing, etc or wants to play games at that resolution. It would definately be horrible for full screen movies though unless you don't mind watching it in a window just like you see in the preview image above, that resolution is like 4 x 1920x1080 screens in 1, so you have 3/4 extra space to work with.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Eru_JRRT)

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:30:45 GMT

I mean standard HD (16:9 I think) or what ever resolution movies are filmed in. 4:3 is to narrow of a view of course.

Maybe I'm just speaking from a frustrated consumer POV but I've got a 1920x1200 monitor (purchased about 2 years ago when I was relatively uninformed on tech) and am now stuck with some very annoying black bars above and below my screen when ever I watch youtube vids or other 1080 recordings.

Idk, to me it just seems weird that there is no standard width to height ratio.

That's off topic and not discussing your thread. Back on topic, what is the actual purpose of such a high res monitor?

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (_Nite_)

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:23:17 GMT

Eru_JRRT

Why can't we just get one standard width to height ratio?

what do you mean? a bigger 4:3 ratio one? Don't think that will ever happen now days. Widescreen is where its at.

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (Eru_JRRT)

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:17:08 GMT

Why can't we just get one standard width to height ratio?

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (_Nite_)

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:01:42 GMT

ManBearPig

Only $35,700

Must get 3 for surround.

12228 x 2160

yea you will be waiting a while for video cards to handle that kinda resolution in gaming

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (logan801)

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:58:40 GMT

35k jeeeeeeeeeeeeez it's like when flat panels came out for the first time. My dad was going to get one, when I asked him how much it was he said 15k I said forget that I need a car lol

Re:Eizo 4,096 x 2,160 LCD Monitor (ManBearPig)

Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:54:26 GMT

Only $35,700

Must get 3 for surround.