Overclocking For The First Time Help!

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (overclocker333)

Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:15:31 GMT

DrEvil

overclocker333

I have built 3 EVGA X58 SLI LE systems for other people with the Cooler Master V8 and I quit using them... they look cool but that's about it. I even replaced the fan with a Delta 150 cfm fan which is a little loud and it still was not as good as a Promlimatech with a moderate fan.

The V8 is not the best cooler on the market but it is good enough to get you to ~3.8 without a problem, anything else, you'll need a better cooler.

I never had a chip that it couldn't get to 4 ghz and one to 4.2ghz... but it does depends on the chip.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (overclocker333)

Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:11:32 GMT

manutd4life

one doubt, if ever I remove my heatsink, can I just put it back WITHOUT cleaning and reapplying the thermal compound OR its a must??

You need to use new thermal compund each time.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:03:30 GMT

DrEvil

overclocker333

I have built 3 EVGA X58 SLI LE systems for other people with the Cooler Master V8 and I quit using them... they look cool but that's about it. I even replaced the fan with a Delta 150 cfm fan which is a little loud and it still was not as good as a Promlimatech with a moderate fan.

The V8 is not the best cooler on the market but it is good enough to get you to ~3.8 without a problem, anything else, you'll need a better cooler.

It's a shame, cause I love the look of the V8. It's the best looking design.

thats what attract me with the V8, its look :) look like an engine through the case window.

anyone know abt this: "one doubt, if ever I remove my heatsink, can I just put it back WITHOUT cleaning and reapplying the thermal compound OR its a must??"

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (DrEvil)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:24:49 GMT

overclocker333

I have built 3 EVGA X58 SLI LE systems for other people with the Cooler Master V8 and I quit using them... they look cool but that's about it. I even replaced the fan with a Delta 150 cfm fan which is a little loud and it still was not as good as a Promlimatech with a moderate fan.

The V8 is not the best cooler on the market but it is good enough to get you to ~3.8 without a problem, anything else, you'll need a better cooler.

It's a shame, cause I love the look of the V8. It's the best looking design.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:36:03 GMT

thanks man, waiting to find a thermal compound in my country cauz on eBay the shipping cost is too much, im getting MX-2 over $38 some $28.8 including shipping, its too much.
my country is not like USA where we get all you know :(

one doubt, if ever I remove my heatsink, can I just put it back WITHOUT cleaning and reapplying the thermal compound OR its a must??

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (overclocker333)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:03:05 GMT

manutd4life

VTT and VTT PLL, thats the same ryt??
you told me VTT around 1.4 to 1.5 but how will I adjust this?? cauz in BIOS it is display as 150mV 200mV...

Sorry... I probably should have clarified that. When I said 1.4v to 1.5 volt VTT...I was referring to CPU VTT which would be +200 to +300 in the bios on a Classified... you can check that with Eleet.

Make sure you read and do this as was suggested by clwoodwork:

clwoodwork

Read this guide from Shansmihttp://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=7528 in it he indicates that for a 124 stop bsod try increasing your vcore or cpu vtt little by litle till you see results.

Peace, Chuck

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:38:22 GMT

VTT and VTT PLL, thats the same ryt??
you told me VTT around 1.4 to 1.5 but how will I adjust this?? cauz in BIOS it is display as 150mV 200mV...

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (overclocker333)

Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:12:19 GMT

manutd4life

thank you guys,
I think im gonna buy a thermal compound, im using the stock one coming with the V8. not even the TF 400 sample.

-aftermarket fan? you mean replacing the V8 inside fan??
-Im thinking of the tuniq TX-3, is that good?
-any anyone, what does folding means??

My suggestions:

Use Shin-Etsu X23-7783D or Arctic Cooling MX3 or MX2

I have built 3 EVGA X58 SLI LE systems for other people with the Cooler Master V8 and I quit using them... they look cool but that's about it. I even replaced the fan with a Delta 150 cfm fan which is a little loud and it still was not as good as a Promlimatech with a moderate fan.

But you can still get to a Prime95 stable 4ghz which is the 191 bclk with turbo on easy enough with an i7 slbej "do" stepping chip and your Classified.

I would take your memory down to the 2:6 divider 800mhz and set the vdimm to 1.65 to and VTT to 1.375v to eliminate the memory factor and work on getting it higher later after you get your cpu stable.

If I remember right your Vcore will be around 1.375v to 1.45v and VTT around 1.4v to 1.5v depending on your chip. You might end up adding a little VTT PLL... I think one of the rigs needed 1.2v of that.

Use the guides suggested and work your way up slow... you should have no problem getting there.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (awalleyeguy)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:46:38 GMT

^^^ No ^^^ its volunteer work.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:06:29 GMT

DrEvil

Folding:

http://folding.stanford.edu/

It's a real cool concept and a lot of members on these forums are part of the cause.

Do they pay us for folding??

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (DrEvil)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:28:10 GMT

Folding:

http://folding.stanford.edu/

It's a real cool concept and a lot of members on these forums are part of the cause.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:19:48 GMT

thank you guys,
I think im gonna buy a thermal compound, im using the stock one coming with the V8. not even the TF 400 sample.

-aftermarket fan? you mean replacing the V8 inside fan??
-Im thinking of the tuniq TX-3, is that good?
-any anyone, what does folding means??

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (XXChronicXX)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:10:07 GMT

Just got to run tests man. I needed 300 VTT to get over 4ghz. I also needed 1.4 vcore as well. It all depends on your chip. For Example I can do 3.85ghz with a 1.26875 vcore. But 3.95ghz needs a 1.35 vcore. And 4ghz Needs a 1.41 vcore. This chip is really the easiest chip ive ever overclocked. And combined with the classified its a dream. Keep working at it and you will get it. Just remember this board is awesome so leave everything at auto and just work with vdimm, vtt, and vcore. Maybe up the cpu pwm to 940 but thats all really. If you read the guide you will learn that the unknown hardware error BSOD is usually caused by too low or too high VTT. It can also be due to your memory settings. I recommend underclocking your memory and using LinX to pass tests. Once you pass 30- 50 linX tests (about 2-3 hours of LinX) Then you can up the ram speed and test with Prime95 Blend. Dont use LinX again after you up the ram speeds beacause it will most likely still pass you even if you have memory issues. Prime95 Blend is best for telling you that your ram speed and timings are stable. LinX is best for telling you that your vcore and cpu are stable. Good Luck!

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (expedision)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:56:45 GMT

A stock V8 should get you close to 4.0Ghz . A aftermarket fan would help the V8 get you there.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:37:48 GMT

"Virtualization Technology ( Enabled ) <--need to have it enabled for folding"
"Folding: 2,573,758"

Anyone what does Folding means??

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:44:53 GMT

rludwic

Man, just a suggestion, could we maybe start at a lower clock and work our way up or do we have to jump right for 4GHz. If you want to start at a bclk of 160 or so I'd be glad to help you, but if you're set on racing to 4 gig I'm going to have to bow out because I see troubles down the road. And sorry, just for one thing, I don't know how to say this gently, that V8 is not the ticket to 4GHz, I had one, fan modded it, not until I got a Megahalem did I start to see the light over in that 4.0GHz playing area.

Rob

ok, im at 21x180 3.7Ghz with Vcore 1.27 (with Vdroop), dimm 1.55, and everything Auto,
running LinX now, no errors.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (rludwic)

Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:19:11 GMT

Man, just a suggestion, could we maybe start at a lower clock and work our way up or do we have to jump right for 4GHz. If you want to start at a bclk of 160 or so I'd be glad to help you, but if you're set on racing to 4 gig I'm going to have to bow out because I see troubles down the road. And sorry, just for one thing, I don't know how to say this gently, that V8 is not the ticket to 4GHz, I had one, fan modded it, not until I got a Megahalem did I start to see the light over in that 4.0GHz playing area.

Rob

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:29:26 GMT

most voltage are on Auto now except, Vcore:1.35, VTT:125mv, DIMM:1.63, and im at 21X196
I don't get BSOD anymore but welcome to the heat :(
while running prime95 realtemp shows 91 max,
-Can I know whats the last temp that realtemp shows, for a CPU to get burn???
-and btw im not using my 2nd 8-pin CPU power connector on E760 mobo, If I use it, will that help to reduce Vcore and temp??
plz help with these 2 questions,
thanks.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:11:16 GMT

I have V8 cooler, will I be able to overclock at 4.0??

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (KMoore4318)

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:56:37 GMT

change VTT from +150 to, +200 and test then +250 if necessary, it's what mine took.
My template Below Just to give you an idea of what it took me.

Frequency Control
CPU Clock Ratio ( 21X )
CPU Host Frequency Mhz ( 203 )
MCH Strap ( Auto )
CPU Uncore Frequency (Mhz) ( Auto )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 100 )

Memory Feature
Memory Control Setting (Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 2:8 )
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Memory Low Gap ( Auto )
tCL Setting ( 9 ) tRCD Setting ( 9 )
tRP Setting ( 9 )
tRAS Setting ( 24 )
tRFC Setting ( 88 )
Command Rate ( T1)

Voltage Control
EVGA VDroop Control ( With VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.3625v )
CPU VTT Voltage ( +250 )
CPU PLL VCore ( 1.8 )
DIMM Voltage ( 1.63v )
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0 )
QPI PLL VCore ( 1.1v )
IOH VCore ( 1.1 )
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( 1.50 )
ICH VCore ( 1.05 )
CPU PWM Frequency ( 800 )

CPU Feature
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Disabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Enabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Disabled )
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( Auto )

[link=http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/ultimate_core_i7_overclocking_guide_we_push_nehalem_its_limits?page=0%2C0]http://www.maximumpc.com/..._its_limits?page=0%2C0[/link]

[link=http://hothardware.com/Articles/Intel-Core-i7-Overclocking--A-HotHardware-HowTo/]http://hothardware.com/Ar...--A-HotHardware-HowTo/[/link]

Shansmi's OC Guide

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:15:27 GMT

and what is the tRFC 88 in memory feature??

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:12:05 GMT

expedision

clwoodwork

Read this guide from Shansmihttp://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=7528 in it he indicates that for a 124 stop bsod try increasing your vcore or cpu vtt little by litle till you see results.

Peace, Chuck

His Vdimm is at 1.55, thats why he's getting the bsod.

I've tried 1.65V for the Memory too, Same Result.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (expedision)

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:01:35 GMT

clwoodwork

Read this guide from Shansmihttp://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=7528 in it he indicates that for a 124 stop bsod try increasing your vcore or cpu vtt little by litle till you see results.

Peace, Chuck

His Vdimm is at 1.55, thats why he's getting the bsod.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (clwoodwork)

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:56:08 GMT

Read this guide from Shansmihttp://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=7528 in it he indicates that for a 124 stop bsod try increasing your vcore or cpu vtt little by litle till you see results.

Peace, Chuck

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (SimC33)

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:04:49 GMT

Here is my BIOS template that I did from the ground up...

Heres the BIOS template..

Mother Board ( EVGA X58 SLI LE )

CPU Clock Ratio ( 20X ) ( 21X with turbo enabled )
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ( 200 )
Spread Spectrum ( Disabled )
PCIE Frequency (Mhz) ( 100 )
MCH Strap ( 1600 )
UnCore ( 16X )

< Memory Feature >
Memory Control Setting ( Enabled )
Memory Frequency ( 2:8 )
Channel Interleave Setting ( 6 Way )
Rank Interleave Setting ( 4 Way )
Parameters
tCL Setting ( 8 )
tRCD Setting ( 8 )
tRP Setting ( 8 )
tRAS Setting ( 24 )
tRFC Setting ( 74 )
Command Rate ( 1T )

< Voltage Control >
EVGA VDroop Control ( Without VDroop )
CPU VCore ( 1.3250 )
CPU VTT Voltage ( +150 )
CPU PLL VCore ( Auto )
DIMM Voltage ( 1.65V )
DIMM DQ Vref ( +0 )
QPI PLL VCore ( Auto )
IOH VCore ( Auto )
IOH/ICH I/O Voltage ( Auto )
ICH VCore ( Auto )

< CPU Feature >
Intel SpeedStep ( Disabled )
Turbo Mode Function ( Enabled )
CxE Function ( Disabled )
Execute Disable Bit ( Disabled )
Virtualization Technology ( Enabled ) <--need to have it enabled for folding
Logical Processor Setting
Intel HT Technology ( Enabled )
Active Processor Cores ( All )

< QPI Settings >
QPI Control Settings ( Enabled )
QPI Link Fast Mode ( Enabled )
QPI Frequency Selection ( 4.8 GT/s )

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (expedision)

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:04:44 GMT

First set dimm voltage @1.65
Qpi pll @ auto
See if that helps any.

Re:Overclocking For The First Time Help! (SimC33)

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:02:21 GMT

Have you tried setting everything to default and starting from the ground up? Im not trying to sound like a smartass, im being serious. I found my LinX 20 passes Prime 95 8 hour 4.207 GHz OC with everything on default with just a little vcore increase and my RAM settings tightened.

Overclocking For The First Time Help! (manutd4life)

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:55:58 GMT

Hi,
im trying but can't do it,
Sometimes programs stop working too in Windows and keep getting BSOD...
I get no problem with CINEBENCH R10 BUT get BSOD with OCCT, Prime95

I can't make my overclock stable please help me...

Here are some screen of my BIOS:

Frequency/Voltage Control:
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CPU Features:
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Voltage Control:
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Memory Feature:
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BSOD while using OCCT and Prime95:
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Temperature while using CINEBENCH R10 and No BSOD with this test:
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My System:
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-Core i7 920 D0
-Cooler Master V8
-EVGA X58 3X SLI Claassified E760
-XFX Radeon HD4850 512MB
-Corsair Dominator 6GB 3x2GB TR3X6G1600C7D G
-Corsair CMPSU-1000HX 1000W
-Samsung HDD Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB
-Cooler Master HAF 932 Case
-ASUS VW193T 19"
-Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
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Help Me Plz thats my first time overclocking!!