X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it?

Re:X58 Stability Club (bdary)

Sun, 03 Mar 2013 13:53:06 GMT

cp256

Yeah, way too much voltage, but that's what it took. At one point I was battling alternating 101 and 124 BSODs. Also saw 0A and 50's along the way. I upped the various applicable voltages one at a time in single step increments until they went away. Like I said, it's a horrible overclocker. It's a chick's chip as far as I am concerned, no offense to chicks of course

Don't know if it would OC better on the Classy3, but I have decided to make the 965 and FTW3 part of a basic air rig for the wife with a very mild OC as punishment for being pathetic. To further complicate matters the FTW3 has the 67c VReg bug, which is mildly annoying, so I put a fan on that.

In the meantime I am trying a higher multiplier strategy to bring down the voltages as an exercise. I have it at 31x136 for 4205 and it seems a bit happier with somewhat lower temps. I'll let it percolate in Prime while I watch the Cup race this afternoon and if it survives a LinX run, I'll start lowering individual voltages notch by notch until it BSODs on each type.

Thanks for the welcome, but if you check the join date, I have been a member 3-1/2 months longer than you have I joined back when the QX9650 came out. I put it on an EVGA 780i on air with a couple of 8800 Ultras. Still using that one as my business workstation @4ghz, but had it up to 4.4 stable at one point. Should have wc'ed it...

Yeah, after I posted the message, I noticed your join date was in the same year as mine...lol oh well. Have fun with it.

Re:X58 Stability Club (cp256)

Sun, 03 Mar 2013 09:07:25 GMT

Yeah, way too much voltage, but that's what it took. At one point I was battling alternating 101 and 124 BSODs. Also saw 0A and 50's along the way. I upped the various applicable voltages one at a time in single step increments until they went away. Like I said, it's a horrible overclocker. It's a chick's chip as far as I am concerned, no offense to chicks of course

Don't know if it would OC better on the Classy3, but I have decided to make the 965 and FTW3 part of a basic air rig for the wife with a very mild OC as punishment for being pathetic. To further complicate matters the FTW3 has the 67c VReg bug, which is mildly annoying, so I put a fan on that.

In the meantime I am trying a higher multiplier strategy to bring down the voltages as an exercise. I have it at 31x136 for 4205 and it seems a bit happier with somewhat lower temps. I'll let it percolate in Prime while I watch the Cup race this afternoon and if it survives a LinX run, I'll start lowering individual voltages notch by notch until it BSODs on each type.

Thanks for the welcome, but if you check the join date, I have been a member 3-1/2 months longer than you have I joined back when the QX9650 came out. I put it on an EVGA 780i on air with a couple of 8800 Ultras. Still using that one as my business workstation @4ghz, but had it up to 4.4 stable at one point. Should have wc'ed it...

Re:X58 Stability Club (bdary)

Sun, 03 Mar 2013 07:41:47 GMT

cp256

Sorry to necrotize the thread but I have beaten my brains out trying to get this 965EE over 4.2 stable so I just had to add it here for posterity.
It's on an FTW3 board with 3x120 water. After wrangling with this thing I can understand why there aren't any 965's listed. What a lousy overclocker. I'm looking forward to setting up my 980x and Classy3 for some somewhat more extreme speeds. Also have a 4-Way Classy on the way with another Gulftown to play with.

Core i7 965EE Batch unknown, early engineering sample
CPU Clocked at: 4.21
Voltage: 1.517
Idle Temp: 38 38 36 37
Load Temp: 84 87 82 82
GFlop Peak: 52.780

Welcome to the forums...That's a lot of voltage to reach 4.2, but nice job in any case...

Re:X58 Stability Club (cp256)

Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:26:38 GMT

Sorry to necrotize the thread but I have beaten my brains out trying to get this 965EE over 4.2 stable so I just had to add it here for posterity.
It's on an FTW3 board with 3x120 water. After wrangling with this thing I can understand why there aren't any 965's listed. What a lousy overclocker. I'm looking forward to setting up my 980x and Classy3 for some somewhat more extreme speeds. Also have a 4-Way Classy on the way with another Gulftown to play with.

Core i7 965EE Batch unknown, early engineering sample
CPU Clocked at: 4.21
Voltage: 1.517
Idle Temp: 38 38 36 37
Load Temp: 84 87 82 82
GFlop Peak: 52.780

Re:X58 Stability Club (freestylingford)

Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:36:24 GMT

Core i7 920
CPU clocked at :4.21
Voltage: 1.388
Idle Temp: 33 32 37 32
Load Temp: 84 83 81 81
GFlop peak: 54.1163

Re:X58 Stability Club (izmatic)

Sun, 21 Oct 2012 09:39:13 GMT

IZMatiC
Core i7 990X Batch # 3103B399
CPU clocked at :4.24GHz
Voltage: 1.341
Idle Temp: 33 34 31 32 26 31
Load Temp: 68 67 70 69 75 70
GFlop peak: 71.8203

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/izmaticpixs/EVGAUPLOAD424-1.png
thanks for the reply guys, loveha and lordraptor1, still sucks I was going to do a new build but am so satisfied with what I am running i dont feel the need to change especially just recently swapping out MB for a classified3 guess am like you on this dont need no stinkin badge to know I am stable at 4.2 lol, actually i rush it I know this chip has a lot more to offer guess i try to go for the gusto with it thanks again.

Re:X58 Stability Club (lordraptor1)

Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:45:58 GMT

loveha

HalloweenWeed

I still look at this thread occasionally. But my 3930K on my RIVE is just sooo awesome. Not gloating, just happy.

True, but Kram is no longer doing the badges and maintaining the thread.

i just figured he didnt have the time after moving to those 2011 socket boards with all the failures they seem to have had

Re:X58 Stability Club (loveha)

Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:28:04 GMT

HalloweenWeed

I still look at this thread occasionally. But my 3930K on my RIVE is just sooo awesome. Not gloating, just happy.

True, but Kram is no longer doing the badges and maintaining the thread.

Re:X58 Stability Club (Ultrasuono)

Sat, 20 Oct 2012 03:22:27 GMT

Ultrasuono
I7 990x Extreme Edition Batch 3044B119
CPU clocked at: 4.6 GHz
Voltage: 1.418
Idle temps: 17, 22, 20, 19, 23, 6
Load temps: 79, 74, 71, 68, 76, 75
GFlop peak: 89.97

Hi guys,

this is my daily 24/7...but i think i can optimize CPU-uncore clock and RAM timings...

Re:X58 Stability Club (HalloweenWeed)

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:08:56 GMT

I still look at this thread occasionally. But my 3930K on my RIVE is just sooo awesome. Not gloating, just happy.

Re:X58 Stability Club (lordraptor1)

Mon, 01 Oct 2012 23:21:33 GMT

yeah i dont think this thread is even watched anymore, i never got a badge either but i dont need the badge to know i got my 4.2 but it would be nice to have the badge to show off.

oh well guess some of us get to look forward to no joy because by the time the boards and cpu's become somewhat reasonably priced they are already eol and no one really gives a crap anymore LOL

Re:X58 Stability Club (loveha)

Mon, 01 Oct 2012 19:43:24 GMT

izmatic

kram36

Looks like I have some catching up to do. awalleyeguy can you please list out your results so that I can copy and paste the to the club list. I can't do that from your image info.

Its been a few months been away wondering about badge see everyone else has received theirs any word about mine thank you in advance

That post was many many months ago. He probably does not feel like supporting this thread any longer. Since the new boards are out, I do not blame him. Up keeping something like this can start to wear on you after while.

Re:X58 Stability Club (izmatic)

Mon, 01 Oct 2012 19:13:30 GMT

kram36

Looks like I have some catching up to do. awalleyeguy can you please list out your results so that I can copy and paste the to the club list. I can't do that from your image info.

Its been a few months been away wondering about badge see everyone else has received theirs any word about mine thank you in advance

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (kithylin)

Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:52:00 GMT

Actually on mine, my cpu voltage is @ 1.36v, my VTT is 1.56v and my DRAM voltage is set at 1.85v, so, all is within listed intel specs and hunky dory, ram is within the 1.85 - 1.9v mushkin specs, nothing is going to "reduced lifespan" on any component, intel lists the maximum voltage for cpu core @ 1.37v and I'm a tad under that so it's all fine. AIDA64 does read my DRAM voltage as 1.905v in windows though but it's set to 1.850v in bios, so I don't know if AIDA64 is entirely correct in their voltage readings.

Thanks for informing us (me) on things we already know though.

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (Davabled)

Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:39:57 GMT

kithylin

...
Actually it's rather high-end overclocker's ram designed for high performance systems. As long as the DRAM voltage is only +0.50v (or less) above VTT, and VTT is +0.50v or less above the cpu voltage it's fine.

...

So, DRAM voltage minus .5 volts = VTT voltage, means you're running your VTT at around 1.8 volts?

From intel's site: http://www.intel.com/support/processors/corei7ee/sb/CS-032470.htm#4

intel

What are the Intel® Core™ i7 Extreme Edition processor DDR3 memory voltage limitations?
Intel recommends using memory that adheres to the Jedec memory specification for DDR3 memory which is 1.5 volts, plus or minus 5%. Anything over this voltage can either damage the processor or significantly reduce the processor life span.

That all being said, according to section 2.10 of intel's white paper for the 45nm Core-i7 processors http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/core-i7-900-ee-and-desktop-processor-series-datasheet-vol-1.html , the absolute maximum for DRAM voltage is 1.875 volts, but with this caveat:

intel

At conditions outside functional operation condition limits, but within absolute

maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality nor long-term reliability can be

expected. If a device is returned to conditions within functional operation limits after

having been subjected to conditions outside these limits, but within the absolute

maximum and minimum ratings, the device may be functional, but with its lifetime

degraded depending on exposure to conditions exceeding the functional operation

condition limits.

At conditions exceeding absolute maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality

nor long-term reliability can be expected. Moreover, if a device is subjected to these

conditions for any length of time then, when returned to conditions within the
functional operating condition

So, it may work OK, but if it's run above the max recommended voltage of 1.575 volts, even though it's within the absolute max of 1.875 volts, even if just for a short time, the lifespan and reliability of the processor will be decreased, even if the voltage is later returned to a safe level.

The reason I'm going to lengths about this issue isn't to attack you, but rather to further inform other readers of the safety ramifications.

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (kithylin)

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:41:07 GMT

Davabled

That RAM was designed with the older dual channel CPUs in mind (like the Core2Duo and Core2Quad)

I defintely wouldn't recommend it for a Core i7 based system. Intel has stated many times that it could damage the integrated memory controller on the CPU. It might work for a while, but I think you'd be much better off selling it and getting some newer RAM that runs within spec.

Actually it's rather high-end overclocker's ram designed for high performance systems. As long as the DRAM voltage is only +0.50v (or less) above VTT, and VTT is +0.50v or less above the cpu voltage it's fine.

I had a first generation i7-920 since launch day and ran the kingston hyper-x DDR3-1600 ram at 1.83v for almost 2 years with zero issues, and zero problems, and the next owner (A friend of mine) has had it for a little over 6 months now with the same overclock settings (and is aware of it and it's history) and also has zero issues. No bluescreens, No crashes, ram is fine, system is fine, everything is fine. If you do it right, it won't hurt anything. The only problem is the ram got rather wam, but with a heatsink that allows dual fans (one that can hang out over the side of the heatsink and blow down on the ram) like the Cooler Master GeminII S, and a high-flow fan it'll cool the ram and there's no problems. That was with ram designed for 1.65v too, this new mushkin ram I have now is even stated by mushkin it's good up to 1.9v, so even better.

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (lordraptor1)

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:00:33 GMT

Davabled

kithylin

lordraptor1

1.905v for ram?????? from what i have read you should NEVER go over 1.65v for ram (of course toloerance to say 1.66 i woudl say is ok but 1.9v + )

Actually if you look at Item # N82E16820146871 on newegg, Muskin sells BlackLine DDR3-1600 ram that is rated for Voltage 1.8v - 1.9v. They design it to handle it and it's rated for it by the manufacturer, so it's safe.

And yes I have the VTT up some to compensate and put it closer to the higher ram voltage. I actually have it set at 1.850v in bios for DRAM voltage, but getting into windows and reading voltages with AIDA64 under load it reads 1.905v, so....

That RAM was designed with the older dual channel CPUs in mind (like the Core2Duo and Core2Quad)

I defintely wouldn't recommend it for a Core i7 based system. Intel has stated many times that it could damage the integrated memory controller on the CPU. It might work for a while, but I think you'd be much better off selling it and getting some newer RAM that runs within spec.

this is what i thought dave thanks for confirming, i kinda thought somethign was wrong when i saw 1.9v (that was what the DDR2 ram in my 780i uses)

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (Davabled)

Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:52:25 GMT

kithylin

lordraptor1

1.905v for ram?????? from what i have read you should NEVER go over 1.65v for ram (of course toloerance to say 1.66 i woudl say is ok but 1.9v + )

Actually if you look at Item # N82E16820146871 on newegg, Muskin sells BlackLine DDR3-1600 ram that is rated for Voltage 1.8v - 1.9v. They design it to handle it and it's rated for it by the manufacturer, so it's safe.

And yes I have the VTT up some to compensate and put it closer to the higher ram voltage. I actually have it set at 1.850v in bios for DRAM voltage, but getting into windows and reading voltages with AIDA64 under load it reads 1.905v, so....

That RAM was designed with the older dual channel CPUs in mind (like the Core2Duo and Core2Quad)

I defintely wouldn't recommend it for a Core i7 based system. Intel has stated many times that it could damage the integrated memory controller on the CPU. It might work for a while, but I think you'd be much better off selling it and getting some newer RAM that runs within spec.

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (lordraptor1)

Sun, 09 Sep 2012 23:06:03 GMT

ahh ok its just unusual to see i havent seen anyone mention ram with that high of voltage most i see runs 1.6 to 1.65v (my gskill kit runs 1.5v 1600MHz 24 gig kit)

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (kithylin)

Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:30:17 GMT

lordraptor1

1.905v for ram?????? from what i have read you should NEVER go over 1.65v for ram (of course toloerance to say 1.66 i woudl say is ok but 1.9v + )

Actually if you look at Item # N82E16820146871 on newegg, Muskin sells BlackLine DDR3-1600 ram that is rated for Voltage 1.8v - 1.9v. They design it to handle it and it's rated for it by the manufacturer, so it's safe.

And yes I have the VTT up some to compensate and put it closer to the higher ram voltage. I actually have it set at 1.850v in bios for DRAM voltage, but getting into windows and reading voltages with AIDA64 under load it reads 1.905v, so....

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (lordraptor1)

Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:40:11 GMT

kithylin

and this Mushkin ram has really shocked me and running solidly stable at 2086mhz with 11-11-11-1T @ 1.905v.

1.905v for ram?????? from what i have read you should NEVER go over 1.65v for ram (of course toloerance to say 1.66 i woudl say is ok but 1.9v + )

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (kithylin)

Sun, 09 Sep 2012 10:47:40 GMT

bdary

Of course all chips react differently, but in my opinion, if you back down on your ram speed some, you may not need Vcore voltage that high to achieve a 4.2 OC. That will then reduce your temps quite a bit. If you look at my 4.3 OC submission, you'll see I have a 950 DO chip and didn't need even close to 1.4v. But again, some will need more voltage then others. I personally would never run my rig with Vcore over 1.375v (Vdroop off) and/ or, core temps over 75C for more than a short benchmark or LinX stability run. But that's just my view.

PS. Welcome to the EVGA forums...

I've been fiddling with mine and no matter what I do it just will not run stable with BCLK above 174. I tried vcore around 1.47v, I tried ram speed down at 1200mhz, I tried VTT voltage up, I tried all the other voltages in bios... nothing, so seems on this chip I'm pretty much restricted to 174mhz BCLK (and with this processor that means 4165mhz cpu speed). So... may as well just leave it there and forget about 4200, sadly, and enjoy 2084mhz ram with it. Very good performance/speed anyway.

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (bdary)

Sun, 09 Sep 2012 07:43:49 GMT

kithylin

Well, to make a long story short... Originally years ago I bought a Asus x58 i7 motherboard on i7 launch day in 2008, used it for years, recently sold it and bought an ivy bridge system. I was very unhappy and traded locally for someone with an x58 system to go back to x58 i7 fun times.

What I ended up with was a EVGA X58 CLASSIFIED 3-WAY SLI system, model E760, and came with a Bloomfield i7-950 D0, and a set of Mushkin DDR3-1066 Blackline Ridgeback ram. It also came already with some Cooler Master stand-up heatpipe cooler thing that supports 2 x 120mm fans, and I was given a free Antec 1200 chassis with the trade.

First day spent nearly 8-9 hours assembling everything, taking all my parts from my ivy bridge (and original i7) out of my Antec 300 chassis and migrating them to the new (much larger) Antec 1200. Second day was general usage at stock.. third day I started overclocking, yesterday was day #4, and so far I have it stable @ 4.168ghz, and this Mushkin ram has really shocked me and running solidly stable at 2086mhz with 11-11-11-1T @ 1.905v.

My point of posting here is I read the first post in this thread and see several people with Bloomfield processors running at 1.4## volts and load temps in the mid-90's C (I'm assuming those are C?). I'm currently at 1.38v and my load temps are at 84C - 85C, so while I do want to overclock to 4.2+, I also do intend to use this as a daily gamer machine for at least the next couple years so.... long-term, is 1.4## volts and mid-90's C going to fry my i7 in less than 5 years? I'm only hoping to get about 5 years out of it, x79 parts should be cheap by then.

Has anyone here used a Bloomfield D0 @ 4.2ghz or more, 1.4v or more, and mid-90's C load temps daily for more than 2 years to say it won't kill it?

Of course all chips react differently, but in my opinion, if you back down on your ram speed some, you may not need Vcore voltage that high to achieve a 4.2 OC. That will then reduce your temps quite a bit. If you look at my 4.3 OC submission, you'll see I have a 950 DO chip and didn't need even close to 1.4v. But again, some will need more voltage then others. I personally would never run my rig with Vcore over 1.375v (Vdroop off) and/ or, core temps over 75C for more than a short benchmark or LinX stability run. But that's just my view.

PS. Welcome to the EVGA forums...

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (kithylin)

Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:34:05 GMT

Well, to make a long story short... Originally years ago I bought a Asus x58 i7 motherboard on i7 launch day in 2008, used it for years, recently sold it and bought an ivy bridge system. I was very unhappy and traded locally for someone with an x58 system to go back to x58 i7 fun times.

What I ended up with was a EVGA X58 CLASSIFIED 3-WAY SLI system, model E760, and came with a Bloomfield i7-950 D0, and a set of Mushkin DDR3-1066 Blackline Ridgeback ram. It also came already with some Cooler Master stand-up heatpipe cooler thing that supports 2 x 120mm fans, and I was given a free Antec 1200 chassis with the trade.

First day spent nearly 8-9 hours assembling everything, taking all my parts from my ivy bridge (and original i7) out of my Antec 300 chassis and migrating them to the new (much larger) Antec 1200. Second day was general usage at stock.. third day I started overclocking, yesterday was day #4, and so far I have it stable @ 4.168ghz, and this Mushkin ram has really shocked me and running solidly stable at 2086mhz with 11-11-11-1T @ 1.905v.

My point of posting here is I read the first post in this thread and see several people with Bloomfield processors running at 1.4## volts and load temps in the mid-90's C (I'm assuming those are C?). I'm currently at 1.38v and my load temps are at 84C - 85C, so while I do want to overclock to 4.2+, I also do intend to use this as a daily gamer machine for at least the next couple years so.... long-term, is 1.4## volts and mid-90's C going to fry my i7 in less than 5 years? I'm only hoping to get about 5 years out of it, x79 parts should be cheap by then.

Has anyone here used a Bloomfield D0 @ 4.2ghz or more, 1.4v or more, and mid-90's C load temps daily for more than 2 years to say it won't kill it?

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (RBethune)

Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:06:02 GMT

I remember seeing his name in a x79 thread. Since he switched to the X79 chipset he hasn't kept up with the good ole X58 thread.

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (bdary)

Sun, 02 Sep 2012 07:14:22 GMT

lordraptor1

hows this

lordraptor1
core i7 980x batch #3020A477
cpu clocked @ 4.22Ghz
voltage 1.376
idle temps(tcase 29c) 34/44/34/35/38/34
load temps 76/78/72/73/77/78
GFLOP peak: 50.8562

BIG shout out to bdary for the assistance he provided to get me where i am at right now (IMHO he deserves a BR :D )

Thanks buddy and Congrats to you...great job.

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (lordraptor1)

Sun, 26 Aug 2012 15:13:13 GMT

hows this

lordraptor1
core i7 980x batch #3020A477
cpu clocked @ 4.22Ghz
voltage 1.376
idle temps(tcase 29c) 34/44/34/35/38/34
load temps 76/78/72/73/77/78
GFLOP peak: 50.8562

BIG shout out to bdary for the assistance he provided to get me where i am at right now (IMHO he deserves a BR :D )

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (bdary)

Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:37:56 GMT

spoolindsm127

Totally did not realize until I came to post here that I needed to have notepad showing the date and username. Will I need to make another run?

spoolindsm127
Core i7-990X
CPU clocked at: 4.309GHz
Voltage (DMM_load): 1.268v
Idle temps: 30 30 22 30 33 20
Load temps: 61 60 53 58 62 56
GFlop peak: 86.3285

You will probably need to. It makes it easier for Kram to do his thing. His rules are pretty specific in the beginning of the thread.

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (Davabled)

Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:32:01 GMT

Davabled
Core i7 980 Batch # 3124C947
CPU clocked at: 4.21GHz
Voltage: 1.3875 (WITH VDroop drops down around 1.34ish under load)
Idle temps: 28, 26, 32, 20, 24, 27
Load temps: 64, 62, 61, 55, 63, 64 (actually max temps reported by RealTemp)
GFlop peak: 79.9286
Hyperthreading, VT, EDB, C1 enabled
6 sticks of RAM (total of 12 gigs) @ 1.5 volts, 1T command rate

Re:X58 Stability Club 4.2Ghz+ Can you make it? (spoolindsm127)

Sat, 14 Jul 2012 15:25:25 GMT

Totally did not realize until I came to post here that I needed to have notepad showing the date and username. Will I need to make another run?

spoolindsm127
Core i7-990X
CPU clocked at: 4.309GHz
Voltage (DMM_load): 1.268v
Idle temps: 30 30 22 30 33 20
Load temps: 61 60 53 58 62 56
GFlop peak: 86.3285