790i Ultra - One last shot at stability

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (VistaHead)

Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:03:01 GMT

Let us know. Good luck.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:41:30 GMT

Hey Vista,

I had given up and was looking into new gear. The new BIOS has seemed to fix it. I've run through IBT successfully 3 times now and havent frozen up. I am going to run a long test tonight, and I'll report what happens.

John

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:46:41 GMT

I have the side off now. It is an Antec 900 case.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (VistaHead)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:43:39 GMT

That sounds about normal for IBT...it really stresses your equipment. I would be concerned if it was creeping near 75c-80c. To add a little more air flow, you could open the side of your case when you are running it.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:36:48 GMT

Just curious while I have the test running. What is a safe temp high for the CPU? I usually run about 65-70C when running the Max load IPT tool.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:31:20 GMT

I set these like listed earler. Th IBT test completed 5 passes successfully. I will run a 20 pass test and report back.

CPU Core: Manual = 1.25V
nForce MCP: Manual = 1.5V

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:58:07 GMT

Cool thanks, I will read up on that now.

I think the memory is correct. 2 and 3 if the CPU is on the left. The black slots.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (fch_hei)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:54:38 GMT

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itpronetworking/thread/14c7ee8f-f287-4948-adea-f598b7d18c48
Check this out for the ethernet problem

This may sounds stupid but make sure your memories are in the correct slots (0 and 1 or 2 and 3)
On the board the order goes from slot 0, 2, 1, 3 and I have made this mistake once

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:42:50 GMT

If it helps, here is the senser report from everest.

--------[ Sensor ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Sensor Properties:
      Sensor Type                                       Winbond W83627DHG (ISA 290h)
      GPU Sensor Type                                   Diode (ATI-Diode)
      Motherboard Name                                  nForce 790i Reference Board
      Chassis Intrusion Detected                        Yes

    Temperatures:
      Motherboard                                       32 °C (90 °F)
      CPU                                               38 °C (100 °F)
      CPU #1 / Core #1                                  29 °C (84 °F)
      CPU #1 / Core #2                                  28 °C (82 °F)
      CPU #1 / Core #3                                  26 °C (79 °F)
      CPU #1 / Core #4                                  26 °C (79 °F)
      SPP                                               44 °C (111 °F)
      MCP                                               47 °C (117 °F)
      GPU Diode (DispIO)                                38 °C (100 °F)
      GPU Diode (MemIO)                                 40 °C (104 °F)
      WDC WD3000GLFS-01F8U0                             [ TRIAL VERSION ]

    Cooling Fans:
      CPU                                               2961 RPM
      nForce                                            2752 RPM
      GPU                                               38%

    Voltage Values:
      CPU Core                                          1.28 V
      +3.3 V                                            3.20 V
      +12 V                                             [ TRIAL VERSION ]
      +5 V Standby                                      4.82 V
      VBAT Battery                                      3.09 V
      3.3V Dual                                         3.18 V
      North Bridge Core                                 1.36 V
      DIMM                                              1.70 V
      Debug Info F                                      FF 39 FF / FF FF
      Debug Info T                                      90 38 32 / 255
      Debug Info V                                      A0 C1 C8 C7 AA 0C E3 (03)
      Debug Info I                                      C1 A025

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:34:34 GMT

Same problem with these changes.

If it helps, the ethernet adapters are failing to connect to my network after it freezes. To fix it, I have to disable both nics in windows, and shutdown. I let it sit a few minutes with the ethernet cable out then start it up. After windows is up I enable the nics then plug in the cable. Thats the only way I have found to get them working again.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (VistaHead)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:45:32 GMT

Try memory settings of 8-8-8-22
C1E Enhanced Halt State: [Enabled] (disable)

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:54:28 GMT

No dice. Everything seemed stable for several hours. Even got to game for a while (without sound, I have not installed the sound card yet). After a couple hours, I froze up again. Now it seems everytime I restart my machine, it freezes on the log out screen and I have to power down (even after several hours). I have not touched the settings at all and here is my current config. Now the IBT scan freezes before it gets through the 4th pass.

BIOS Version: P07
**System **
CPU Freq, MHz: 2475 GHZ
FSB Reference Clock, MHz: 1066
CPU Multiplier: [9X]
PCle x16-1 & 16-2, MHz: [100]   Auto - 100
PCle x16-3, MHz: [100]   Auto - 100
SPPc->MCP Ref Clock, MHz: [200]   Auto - 200
nForce SPP --> nForce MCP:   [5X]
nForce SPP c-- nForce MCP:   [5X]
**Spread Spectrum**
CPU Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
HT Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
PCle Spread Spectrurn(SPP): [Disabled]
PCle Spread Spectrurn(MCP): [Disabled]
SATA Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
**FSB & Memorv Config**
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: [Linked]
FSB - Memory Ratio: Sync
FSB (QDR), MHz: [1100] 1066
Actual FSB (QDR), MHz: ****
x MEM (DDR), MHz: ****
Actual MEM (DDR), MHz: ****
P1: [AUTO] Enabled
P2: [AUTO] Enabled
**Memory Timing Setting**
Memory Timing Setting: [Optimal] Expert
tCL (CAS Latency): * 7 *7
tRCD: * 8 *7
tRP: * 8 *7
tRAS: * 21 *20
Command Per Clock: [*T] 1t *2T
** Advanced Memory Settings **
tRRD: [Auto] 5 *6
tRC: [Auto] 28 *30
tWR: [Auto] 10 *12
tWTR: [Auto] 16 *18
tFAW: [Auto] 22 *24
tREF: [Auto]
tRFC: [Auto]
**System Voltages**
CPU Core: Auto 1.28V
auto – 1.28v
CPU FSB: Manual = 1.35

auto – 1.2v -
Memory: Manual = 1.35

1.700v
nForce SPP: Manual = 1.700

auto – 1.3v
nForce MCP: Auto = 1.5V

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (VistaHead)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:40:13 GMT

johnmatkin

Awesome, thanks a ton for all the help. I will run the 20 passes when I head out to lunch and report back this afternoon.

If I decide to play with a slight OC. Should I just ease my way up from 1066 and test it with the IBT tool while watching temps?

Correct.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:33:54 GMT

Awesome, thanks a ton for all the help. I will run the 20 passes when I head out to lunch and report back this afternoon.

If I decide to play with a slight OC. Should I just ease my way up from 1066 and test it with the IBT tool while watching temps?

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (VistaHead)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:27:47 GMT

You want to run IBT for 20 passes, max stress when you get a chance, and keep a close eye on your temps. Yes, there are other stress tests that you can use, like Prime Blend, etc. No one test is the know all, test all, be all, but if you pass the Intel Burn Test, you are pretty much good to go, especially since you do not have a high OC.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:16:53 GMT

Oh I missed your note about NVidia Performance. No I do not have it installed. This is a fresh install with just Win, Office, Visual Studio, SQL Server, Everest and Anti virus on it right now.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:13:17 GMT

I did, and the IBT test just finished. I will run a bigger set overnight tonight, I have some work to do today.

Whoohoo!

Is the IBT a pretty reliable result, or is there something else I should test with?

----------------------------
IntelBurnTest v2.3
Created by AgentGOD
----------------------------
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Clock Speed: 2.40 GHz
Active Physical Cores: 4
Total System Memory: 4094 MB
Stress Level: Maximum (2941 MB)
Testing started on 11/22/2009 10:52:30 AM
Time (s)  Speed (GFlops)  Result
[10:55:29] 147.560 31.3569   3.440258e-002
[10:58:26] 147.864 31.2925   3.440258e-002
[11:01:22] 145.592 31.7807   3.440258e-002
[11:04:17] 145.579 31.7836   3.440258e-002
[11:07:13] 145.352 31.8333   3.440258e-002
Testing ended on 11/22/2009 11:07:13 AM
Test Result: Success.
----------------------------

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (VistaHead)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:54:49 GMT

johnmatkin

I set those settings and verified that yes, they show up as 1066.7. I missed the 1100 from my testing in the edit of my post.

I will run the burn in test now.

Did you make the other changes I listed in post #23?

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:50:50 GMT

I set those settings and verified that yes, they show up as 1066.7. I missed the 1100 from my testing in the edit of my post.

I will run the burn in test now.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (VistaHead)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:49:52 GMT

Do you have Nvidia Performance installed? If so, delete it, it changes your BIOS settings.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:42:34 GMT

Thanks Vista, I'll do it now. I didn't notice if the were different or not but I will check right now.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (VistaHead)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:34:16 GMT

See below:
HT Spread Spectrum: [Auto] (disable)
PCle Spread Spectrurn(MCP): [Auto] (disable)
I will assume since you are linked and synced that the below settings are showing 1066? If not, they should be.
Actual FSB (QDR), MHz: ****
x MEM (DDR), MHz: **** (1066)
Actual MEM (DDR), MHz: ****
Is the below setting correct? If so, shouldn't it be 1066?
FSB Reference Clock, MHz: 1100
Place the following two settings on Auto:
tREF: [Auto] 7,7uS *7,8uS
tRFC: 61 *59

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:21:31 GMT

The stress test cannot complete even one pass. After maybe 2 minutes, my CPU temp hits about 65C and machine locks up. I am sitting at these settings right now.

tRFC is set manually right now to 59, CPU and MCP clocks set to auto. The values seem different everytime I view the settings.
Here are my current settings.
BIOS Version: P07
**System **
CPU Freq, MHz: 2475 GHZ
FSB Reference Clock, MHz: 1100
CPU Multiplier: [9X]
PCle x16-1 & 16-2, MHz: [100]   Auto - 100
PCle x16-3, MHz: [100]   Auto - 100
SPPc->MCP Ref Clock, MHz: [200]   Auto - 200
nForce SPP --> nForce MCP:   [5X]
nForce SPP c-- nForce MCP:   [5X]
**Spread Spectrum**
CPU Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
HT Spread Spectrum: [Auto]
PCle Spread Spectrurn(SPP): [Disabled]
PCle Spread Spectrurn(MCP): [Auto]
SATA Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
**FSB & Memorv Config**
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: [Linked]
FSB - Memory Ratio: Sync
FSB (QDR), MHz: [1100] 1066
Actual FSB (QDR), MHz: ****
x MEM (DDR), MHz: ****
Actual MEM (DDR), MHz: ****
P1: [AUTO] Enabled
P2: [AUTO] Enabled
**Memory Timing Setting**
Memory Timing Setting: [Optimal] Expert
tCL (CAS Latency): * 7 *7
tRCD: * 8 *7
tRP: * 8 *7
tRAS: * 21 *20
Command Per Clock: [*T] 1t *2T
** Advanced Memory Settings **
tRRD: [Auto] 5 *6
tRC: [Auto] 28 *30
tWR: [Auto] 10 *12
tWTR: [Auto] 16 *18
tFAW: [Auto] 22 *24
tREF: [Auto] 7,7uS *7,8uS
tRFC: 61 *59
**System Voltages**
CPU Core: Auto 1.28V
auto – 1.28v
CPU FSB: Manual = 1.35

auto – 1.2v -
Memory: Manual = 1.35

1.700v
nForce SPP: Manual = 1.700

auto – 1.3v
nForce MCP: Auto = 1.5V

auto – 1.5v
GTLVREF Lane 0: [Auto] auto +0
GTLVREF Lane 1: [Auto] auto +0
GTLVREF Lane 2: [Auto] auto +0
GTLVREF Lane 3: [Auto] auto +0
**CPU Configuration**
Limit CPUlD Maxval: Disabled
Intel Speedstep: Disabled
xPPM Mode: [Native]
CPU Thermal Control: [Disabled]
C1E Enhanced Halt State: [Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit: [Enabled] Disable
Virtualization Technology: [Enabled]
CPU Core 0: [Enabled]
CPU Core 1: [Enabled]
CPU Core 2: [Enabled]
CPU Core 3: [Enabled]
Also, for these values, are these settings correct or even matter?
OS Comp = auto (for Win7 64 Ult)
System Bios Cacheable = disabled
hpet function = disabled
acapi suspend type = s3(str)
pci/vga palette snoop = disabled
pci latency timer = 32
max payload size = 4096

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (VistaHead)

Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:39:30 GMT

Run the IBT for 20 passes, max stress:
http://downloads.guru3d.c...1.6-download-2047.html
It appears that you need to reinstall your card drivers. Use Driver Sweeper to remove them:
http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/
1. Download Driver Sweeper, but do not run it.
2. Down load the drivers that you want to install, but do not install them.
3. Uninstall your current drivers through Device Manager.
4. Reboot in safe mode and run Driver Sweeper removing only any remnants of your cards drivers.
5. Reboot in safe mode and install the drivers that you downloaded.
6. Reboot.
As far as your onboard sound, you can either reinstall those drivers, or you can use your sound card. If you use your sound card, make sure that you disable onboard audio in your BIOS. In fact, check to see if it is already disabled causing you to currently have no sound.
http://www.realtek.com.tw/DOWNLOADS/

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:27:34 GMT

Hey Guys,

I went through and did a fresh install of Win7. During the process I never had any issue, which is a first for this rig. I gave up on the nVidia card, and have the ati 4670 in it and it seems to be working fine. I finished installing all my required software without much of a problem (I had one crash during Visual Studio install, a blue screen on ntfs.sys)

I am fine with not using the nvidia card, but I still have no sound. Since I have a fresh install, I have a couple questions.

1. Is there still a guide for testing stability? The stickey seems to be gone.
2. The onboard audio is still not working. Any ideas or advice on where to look?
3. Can I scrap onboard and use my SB card without impacting the stability I now have?
4. What apps would you reccomend for testing/monitoring my system? Other than everest which I now have.

Thanks,
John

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:00:25 GMT

Sorry, these are the drivers I have installed for the Video.

191.07_desktop_win7_winvista_64bit_english_whql

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:58:51 GMT

Thanks Micah,

I had noticed that. I tuned it back to run at 2.4 instead of 3.0. It was still running about 40 degrees at idle using the OC so I wasnt too worried about it yet.

I have noticed one other issue. The on-board sound devices are not getting picked up by Win. The High-Def audio does when I turn it on, but I don't use that.

For the video, in device manager, the two GPUs on the card show up as 2 seperate Display Adapters like below. (I have a screenshot if that helps, it is attached)
---> NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2
---> NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2

Both have yellow error markers on them and the devices report:
'Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)"

And the NVIDIA tools don't work, stating there is not device attached it supports.

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (micah_675)

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:33:29 GMT

Hey John, If you are still having troubles with your bios please make the changes below.

Guys he has a Q6600 and the FSB is 1066 NOT 1333 stock. You are overclocking him so lets just try for stock right now.

johnmatkin

BIOS Version: P07
**System **
CPU Freq, MHz: 2475 GHZ
FSB Reference Clock, MHz: 1100
CPU Multiplier: [9X]
PCle x16-1 & 16-2, MHz: [100]   Auto - 100
PCle x16-3, MHz: [100]   Auto - 100
SPPc->MCP Ref Clock, MHz: [200]   Auto - 200
nForce SPP --> nForce MCP:   [5X]
nForce SPP c-- nForce MCP:   [5X]
**Spread Spectrum**
CPU Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
HT Spread Spectrum: [Auto]
PCle Spread Spectrurn(SPP): [Disabled]
PCle Spread Spectrurn(MCP): [Auto]
SATA Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
**FSB & Memorv Config**
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: [Linked]
FSB - Memory Ratio: Sync
FSB (QDR), MHz: [1100] 1066
Actual FSB (QDR), MHz: ****
x MEM (DDR), MHz: ****
Actual MEM (DDR), MHz: ****
P1: [AUTO] Enabled
P2: [AUTO] Enabled
**Memory Timing Setting**
Memory Timing Setting: [Optimal] Expert
tCL (CAS Latency): * 7 *7
tRCD: * 8 *7
tRP: * 8 *7
tRAS: * 21 *20
Command Per Clock: [*T] 1t *2T
** Advanced Memory Settings **
tRRD: [Auto] 5 *6
tRC: [Auto] 28 *30
tWR: [Auto] 10 *12
tWTR: [Auto] 16 *18
tFAW: [Auto] 22 *24
tREF: [Auto] 7,7uS
tRFC: 61
**System Voltages**
CPU Core:

auto – 1.27v
CPU FSB:
auto – 1.2v
Memory:
1.700v
nForce SPP:
auto – 1.3v *1.4
nForce MCP:
auto – 1.5v
GTLVREF Lane 0: [Auto] auto +0
GTLVREF Lane 1: [Auto] auto +0
GTLVREF Lane 2: [Auto] auto +0
GTLVREF Lane 3: [Auto] auto +0
**CPU Configuration**
Limit CPUlD Maxval: Disabled
Intel Speedstep: Disabled
xPPM Mode: [Native]
CPU Thermal Control: [Disabled]
C1E Enhanced Halt State: [Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit: [Enabled] Disable
Virtualization Technology: [Enabled]
CPU Core 0: [Enabled]
CPU Core 1: [Enabled]
CPU Core 2: [Enabled]
CPU Core 3: [Enabled]

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (VistaHead)

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:01:56 GMT

What driver are you using? What shows up in device manager?

Re:790i Ultra - One last shot at stability (johnmatkin)

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:55:57 GMT

Thanks for the help Vista!

I still have the problem where Win splits my dual GPU card into 2 no functional adapters. Should I try in the video forums you think?

The problem is that both gpus are detected, but get disabled by Win.

Thanks