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Timestamp Nick   Message
 
09/17/2009 5:58:25 PM Shamino   where do i get one of those awesome hats u have tiny
 
09/17/2009 5:58:37 PM Shamino   we need one as prize for contest man
 
09/17/2009 5:58:46 PM Agent_Tiny   http://www.fez-o-rama.com/
 
09/17/2009 5:59:14 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   Type your questions and we will see them
 
09/17/2009 5:59:48 PM Agent_Tiny   Q : Blazen22 Why doesn’t P55 have a North Bridge? A : Didn't you see the video?
 
09/17/2009 5:59:57 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Blazen22 Why doesn’t P55 have a North Bridge? A : Because it doesn't need it! The CPU has all the NB functioanlity built in.
 
09/17/2009 6:01:47 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : What is the specific function of the molex connector on the P55 line of motherboards? A : It adds more power to the PCIe BUS. Shamino found that while xtreme overclocking it can use it with multiple graphics cards
 
09/17/2009 6:02:11 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Are the mother boards usually made from customer feed back or a marketing plan that is created by the EVGA team? A : Actually, primarily customer feedback!
 
09/17/2009 6:02:17 PM Shamino   Q : What is newer about the ECP V2 than the original and is it compatible with X58? A : the diff is that ECP v2 the volatge booster one of it is changed to vtt so u have 2 vcores 1 vtt, you can use it on x58 but the vtt booster will still boost vcore and not vtt
 
09/17/2009 6:02:26 PM Agent_Tiny   Q : How does CPU PWM provide cleaner power? A : I have no idea...
 
09/17/2009 6:03:16 PM Agent_Tiny   With a dirt devil maybe?
 
09/17/2009 6:03:39 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Why does the P55 not suppurt Triple Channel A : The P55 supports dual channel only, the P55 platform is "lower cost" than X58 so this is one of the things you lose, real world performance doesn't suffer too much, but memory bandwidth can take a hit in benchmarks.
 
09/17/2009 6:03:59 PM EVGATech_JakeC   Q : what is the function of the evgabot on the p55 and will it be compatible ? A : Yes the EVBot is supported on the E657, E658, and E659 motherboards. It will support overclocking wihtout taking up any OS or System resources.
 
09/17/2009 6:05:20 PM Shamino   Q : How does a 12+2 power design give it more stable power and up to 700% cleaner power? A : well we use components esepcially mosfets and controller that cna run really high frequencies for switching, so in lets say 1 second the pwm switches 6 times faster and more times than a 250khz asus mobo the more u switch and faster response you will get lesser ripple cos cpus are dynamic their loads keepo changing as u run stuff , plus our caps are a mixture of capacitance and rttransient response
 
09/17/2009 6:06:10 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Can you name three key elements of the mother board than would make it appeal to gamers and over clocker’s? A : DPHS - supports S775 and S1156 heatsinks, Higher PWM frequency, and Triple BIOS Support!
 
09/17/2009 6:06:20 PM Shamino   Q : How does CPU PWM provide cleaner power? A : check the other reply and also bear in mind you need a good mixture of capacitance and multi layer ceramic capacitors for big and small spikes
 
09/17/2009 6:06:33 PM Agent_Tiny   Q : people have been posting some pretty awesome OC'ing on the P55....what is the highest anyone has ever gotten with EVGA boards and does the evgabot system help ? A : 7,000,000,000
 
09/17/2009 6:08:12 PM EVGATech_JakeC   Q : rephrasing my question from before....is Evgabot capable of providing stable OC'ing while still in windows? or must it still be done in bios? A : Yes you can OC while still in windows.
 
09/17/2009 6:08:18 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : what is the function of the evgabot on the p55 and will it be compatible ? A : This is for on the fly overclocking while in Windows, an ipod like device that plugs into the motherboards i/o. Can also be used for select EVGA Graphics Cards! Like GTX 285 Classified!
 
09/17/2009 6:08:26 PM Shamino   Q : people have been posting some pretty awesome OC'ing on the P55....what is the highest anyone has ever gotten with EVGA boards and does the evgabot system help ? A : i did 5.6+ valid 5.7 screen but not fast enough to save valid,, for bclk 260+ with a random cpu and prolly 270+ with a good one evbot helps so that you bukmp- blcks so fast and help save time to easily save a valid file and also moving cpu speeds throughtout a benchmark to find the max speeds at every second of it
 
09/17/2009 6:08:46 PM EVGATech_JakeC   Q : When a new Bios version comes out for the P55 do you need to flash the newer version to all 3 BIOS? A : No you do not need to flash all three unless you want all of them updated.
 
09/17/2009 6:09:02 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Blazen22 When a new Bios version comes out for the P55 do you need to flash the newer version to all 3 BIOS? A : If you have triple BIOS support, then yes :) But not required.
 
09/17/2009 6:09:49 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : rephrasing my question from before....is Evgabot capable of providing stable OC'ing while still in windows? or must it still be done in bios? A : It can be done in Windows, in DOS, anywhere
 
09/17/2009 6:10:22 PM Shamino   Q : rephrasing my question from before....is Evgabot capable of providing stable OC'ing while still in windows? or must it still be done in bios? A : it is more for fine tuning then for bumping 133 straight to 260, some stuff values are determined at boopt and if u say boot at 133 stuffs tighter than when u boot at 200 so a stable easy oc first from bios and tuning with evbot
 
09/17/2009 6:10:41 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : KeithWeisshar why triple bios instead of dual bios? A : This is Shamino's answer - "It is one more than 2!"
 
09/17/2009 6:10:44 PM Agent_Tiny   Q : KeithWeisshar why triple bios instead of dual bios? A : More is better, unless it's minutes in a dentist chair.
 
09/17/2009 6:11:29 PM Shamino   Q : How does the Classified P55 do in TRI/Quad SLI compared to X58 boards? A : very comparable, you can check the p55 section for results
 
09/17/2009 6:11:36 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Actually it comes in handy for BIOS comparisons, or you can have 3 completely desperate BIOS profiles. Also if you manage to kill 2 of them somehow :)
 
09/17/2009 6:12:01 PM Shamino   Q : The P55 has limited SLI, right? A : depends on model, from no sli to sli to tri sli
 
09/17/2009 6:12:12 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Why does every EVGA motherboard look so damn sexy? A : Because we took feedback from our fans on the original X58, and promised from then on to make really sexy boards :)
 
09/17/2009 6:12:35 PM Agent_Tiny   Dead sexy
 
09/17/2009 6:12:45 PM Shamino   Q : What results can you share about over clocking and stability with the new P55 mother board? A : i posted some in the p55 section main thing about this platform is u can push bclk and ramns higher than x58
 
09/17/2009 6:12:46 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : will there be a P55 Micro Agent Tiny Edition that will come with a Fez in matching Red/Black color combo? A : Great idea, may need to consider this!
 
09/17/2009 6:13:11 PM Agent_Tiny   Or even Fez's I have made... pay extra for Agent Tiny's head sweat.
 
09/17/2009 6:13:24 PM Shamino   Q : Is it easier to OC a 1156 I5/I7 or an X58? A : bclk and ram easier on 1156, cpu about the same on air, on ln2 the x58 cpus currently clock better
 
09/17/2009 6:14:15 PM Shamino   Q : how much more bandwidth does the NF 200 chip provide over the P55 itself? is it sufficient for 2x 16x lanes? A : hard to gauge all can tell by results and copmapring with x58 diff is very small like ahirline
 
09/17/2009 6:14:22 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : mack4033 What segment of the market would upgrade to the p55 mother board? A : Anyone who wants a low cost, great performing platform
 
09/17/2009 6:14:28 PM Agent_Tiny   Q : Does Jacob loves n00bs? A : Yes, he loves his own kind of course.
 
09/17/2009 6:14:55 PM Shamino   Q : Will any more EVGA X58 motherboards be release now that P55 has been launched? A : thinkin, thinkin, always thirstin to make super hi end stuff
 
09/17/2009 6:15:17 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : mack4033 What has EVGA learned from its customer base (feedback) to build the next generation mother boards? A : We learned that looks are very important for one :-)
 
09/17/2009 6:15:24 PM Agent_Tiny   Q : How many Oreo cookies did Agent Tiny eat during the making of evga p55 mobo video? A : Only 3 and a half rows...
 
09/17/2009 6:15:43 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : do you forsee any possible RAM Clearnace issues with the DHSP when using a larger 775 cooler thats been turned just slightly? A : We have not seen any compatibility issues yet.
 
09/17/2009 6:16:00 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : How many Oreo cookies did Agent Tiny eat during the making of evga p55 mobo video? A : A lot.
 
09/17/2009 6:16:45 PM Shamino   Q : do you forsee any possible RAM Clearnace issues with the DHSP when using a larger 775 cooler thats been turned just slightly? A : good question im not so sure on dhsp, mainly the fan for the regular towers so if ram is in way can raise the fan slightly to be above ram
 
09/17/2009 6:17:12 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Blazen22 Is it possible to implement a separate dedicated chip built into the board for Physx? A : Possible, certainly possible, but thermals would likely be challenging to implement.
 
09/17/2009 6:17:44 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : DraginElite were the stunt video cards used in the P55 video hired in-house or contracted out? A : They were contracted out.
 
09/17/2009 6:17:44 PM Shamino   Q : Blazen22 Question for Shamino, Why did you scrap the NVRAM slot? A : it was for P57 chipset pin to pin compatible but now its cancedled
 
09/17/2009 6:18:43 PM Shamino   Q : mack4033 What is the typical time period it takes manfacture, to create and upgrade or build new mother boards? A : about 2 months for not new chipset but 6 months with new chipset - excluding waiting on the heatsink cooler which is always a killer on timing
 
09/17/2009 6:18:46 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Radix One of the P55 mobo's is LE, is that Light Edition? and what exactly is different in LE? A : LE doesn't have a specific meaning, but all you need to remember here is that the P55 LE is a lower end version of the P55, less power phases, no SLI, but still a great board.
 
09/17/2009 6:19:04 PM Shamino   Q : Shamino, how do you feel about clearing the COSMOS? Do you recommend it often? A : i love it feels like star trek
 
09/17/2009 6:19:08 PM Agent_Tiny   Q : Shamino, how do you feel about clearing the COSMOS? Do you recommend it often? A : Everything I learned from overclocking, I learned at NVISION... you might not have recognized me though, I was disguised as a hot blond chick.
 
09/17/2009 6:20:06 PM Shamino   Q : Are the mother boards usually made from customer feed back or a marketing plan that is created by the EVGA team? A : all both and every, always trying to think of new stuff to do with the mbs, and learning from previous experiences
 
09/17/2009 6:20:18 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : emepror will EVGA be providing any X58 boards with the features found on the P55 mobo's? A : No comment yet...
 
09/17/2009 6:21:21 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : AcesofDeath7 How long until the FTW 200 and Classified 200 will be available? A : You will start to see availability by the end of this month.
 
09/17/2009 6:21:33 PM Shamino   Q : How does dual clock generators help overclocking on the classy 200? A : well u know the bclk is solely from one clockgen, usually every clcoks comes from a single cg and plls inside but for the p55 class its just for bclk and another for rest and its placed soooo near to cpu so clocks are very jitterless
 
09/17/2009 6:21:46 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Radix Because of the PCI-E 8x 8x limitations on the P55 mobos will we see decreased performance in SLI with this gen of cards? A : With this gen the performance hit is very small.
 
09/17/2009 6:22:37 PM Shamino   Q : Inside the CPU socket cavity there are low inductance surface mount capacitors, how does this differ from the competition? A : soo, for capacitors u want capacitance without the inductance - inductance cuases power loss, so lesser the better
 
09/17/2009 6:23:03 PM Shamino   Q : will Evgabot ever be expanded to platforms like X58 and other GPU's? specifically the 300 series? A : for sure
 
09/17/2009 6:23:30 PM Shamino   Q : What all is supported by EVbot? A : classified boards vgas, and ftw p55s
 
09/17/2009 6:24:07 PM Agent_Tiny   Q : mack4033 why so much gold inside the cpu socket? A : Our boards required more blink - this is my request.
 
09/17/2009 6:24:15 PM Agent_Tiny   bling too
 
09/17/2009 6:24:19 PM Shamino   Q : also, ive heard that 2 NF 200 chips would wreak havoc with eachother, if so why do you have 2 of these chips on some of your new P55 boards? A : so far soo good, welll,u do wanna use 4 way sli right? so whats necessary is necessary
 
09/17/2009 6:25:29 PM Shamino   Q : What do you think on this motherboard will give an overclocker the greatest amount of flexibility? A : well you can mix and match clocks easier, high bclk or hi ram or hi uncore
 
09/17/2009 6:25:54 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : emepror with the new Evgabot feature, does EVGA plan to move more away from reference boards? A : None of EVGA's motherboards are reference, certainly for graphics cards you will continue to see more innovative products.
 
09/17/2009 6:26:05 PM Shamino   Q : emepror with the new Evgabot feature, does EVGA plan to move more away from reference boards? A : whehns last time u saw a reference evga board?
 
09/17/2009 6:26:14 PM Agent_Tiny   Tuesday
 
09/17/2009 6:26:40 PM Shamino   Q : Why was socket 775 cooler support included on the P55 motherboards, but not the 1366 motherboards? A : we dont liek to copy, foxconn already had it
 
09/17/2009 6:26:58 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : emepror which do you guys like more P55 or X58? A : They are both great platforms. X58 is still the performance king however.
 
09/17/2009 6:27:13 PM Shamino   Q : Radix Because of the PCI-E 8x 8x limitations on the P55 mobos will we see decreased performance in SLI with this gen of cards? A : refer to prevoious answer and forum section results
 
09/17/2009 6:27:27 PM Agent_Tiny   Peace out P-Fiddy-Five lovers
 
09/17/2009 6:27:35 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : mack4033 ok can the p55 family oc to 4.5 or better for every day use? A : If you can cool it, it can do it :)
 
09/17/2009 6:28:19 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Blazen22 Why is there no Hydro Copper water block on any of the models? A : Because Agent Tiny shaved off the northbridge, remember? :-)
 
09/17/2009 6:28:34 PM Shamino   Q : emepror how much extra power does the molex provide for the GPU's and is this essential for P55 GPU OC'ing? A : 10 15 amps more of +12v, +5v - +12v yes for multi cards they draw quite a lot from slotss essential, no, unless 3 cards and the cards are heavy oc
 
09/17/2009 6:30:07 PM Shamino   Q : Halo_003 Does a 1156 i7 or a 1366 i7 have more OC ability on average? A : deopends on what you ocin' refer to revioopus answers
 
09/17/2009 6:30:45 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : emepror will there be a evgabot addon card? A : No plans yet, it really needs to be an internal function of the MB/BIOS
 
09/17/2009 6:31:31 PM Shamino   Q : moose517 has the size of the power traces to the PCIe slots been widended on the p55 boards, i have heard that people have actually had to mod the x58's to get more power to the GPU's when running 3 or even four of them A : it has actuualy been widened on the x58, the bad thing for doing this is that u do not limit the power the cards can draw and so it makes your 24 pin connector hot , so we add molex to help - would u prefer it if we narrow it like other mobos and so u have bad vga oc?
 
09/17/2009 6:32:34 PM Shamino   Q : Blazen22 I was wondering what can Dummy O.C do in terms of how does it know what frequency to over clock to? A : its pretermined speeds by testiong a lot of same cpus and finding a safe range on stock cooler
 
09/17/2009 6:33:25 PM Shamino   Q : emepror will there be a evgabot addon card? A : cool i see so many questions on evbot, my boss was sceptical if it would sell well - what do you think?
 
09/17/2009 6:33:53 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : so i have to make my mind up the x58 killer or the p55 goals; high core gamein, killer oc , 4.3 or better 300 frames i have the 295 coop help me make a choice/ A : Well, if you are a gamer, it would be better to go for the P55 and invest in a higher end graphics card, or SLI.
 
09/17/2009 6:34:05 PM Shamino   Q : Blazen22 Question for Shamino, do you ever stop working... perhaps video games? A : SF4 , this game's the shiiziiit
 
09/17/2009 6:34:08 PM emepror   i am very interested in it, thats why im asking so many questions on it, it seems like an awesome way to OC
 
09/17/2009 6:34:35 PM Shamino   for sure, i love clickin when benchin
 
09/17/2009 6:35:05 PM Shamino   Q : Demonik5150 will the 285 classy work on the P55 in 4 way ? A : nope unfortunately no
 
09/17/2009 6:35:10 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : emepror what about the moose proofing, will the boards still work if he gets his hands on one? A : Yes, even for moose :)
 
09/17/2009 6:35:26 PM Shamino   Q : Sean1 Is bios flashing performed the same on the P55 as the x58? A : no we have auto run file in windows for p55
 
09/17/2009 6:36:03 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Sean1 Is bios flashing performed the same on the P55 as the x58? A : A bit different actually, we have a Windows, and DOS flash now.
 
09/17/2009 6:36:25 PM Shamino   Q : bomberboysk How well does the vdroop control on the motherboards work? Is there still a voltage spike when going from load to idle like there was on some older motherboards that had Vdroop control? A : on the non classy the vdroop will be very ervy slight at high clocks volts from idle to load, on classy its almost a straight line
 
09/17/2009 6:37:25 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : emepror do you see the future version of P55 being a system on a chip with no chipsets on the mobo? A : Not for P55 line, but perhaps on a future chipset.
 
09/17/2009 6:37:34 PM Shamino   Q : emepror how much wider are the PCIe traces? is it a noticable increase in performance? A : prolyl take in a few mnore amps - u should notice maybe that those who push multi vgas highest are on the x58 evga mbs?
 
09/17/2009 6:38:04 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : emepror other than realizing that your processor is starving itself is there anyway to monitor Vdroop? A : You can with a voltmeter, the P55 classified actually has a voltmeter built in! You can also monitor with ELEET, but that is not as accurate
 
09/17/2009 6:38:46 PM Shamino   Q : emepror other than realizing that your processor is starving itself is there anyway to monitor Vdroop? A : idle and load difference thats kinda what u have for droop, if stable not that important
 
09/17/2009 6:39:22 PM Shamino   Q : Daguava Experience with other competing brands shows that Bios flashing utilities tend to be an afterthought, being hard to use containing instructions in Engrish. How easy is the windows flashing utility to use? A : double click , press y enter then ok!!!
 
09/17/2009 6:39:51 PM Shamino   Q : emepror what boards have the increased traces? just want to know A : classified , 3x sli, ftw,
 
09/17/2009 6:40:58 PM Shamino   Q : mack4033 ok i have a 1,000 for the mb, ram and chip the p55 or the x58 classified i have water cooling make the case? A : u mean can u still squeeze in water coolin with the 1000$ budget?>
 
09/17/2009 6:41:20 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Will any more EVGA X58 motherboards be release now that P55 has been launched? A : Well we launched the 4-way, nothing else yet but stay tuned
 
09/17/2009 6:41:36 PM Shamino   Q : voklskier4452 with all the extremely high bclck's i have been seeing across websites, do you think p55 will be much of a contender in benches like 01 and super pi? A : hmmm, well not current cpus but maybe in near future steppings
 
09/17/2009 6:41:54 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : DraginElite will we see an Extremely Shamino Tweeked Version of the Micro? A : Certainly if there is a demand :)
 
09/17/2009 6:42:06 PM Shamino   Q : DraginElite will we see an Extremely Shamino Tweeked Version of the Micro? A : hwo much u willlin to pay, i do u a custom job
 
09/17/2009 6:42:15 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : AcesofDeath7 What advantage does the FTW 200 have over the FTW? A : The FTW can do 3-way SLI
 
09/17/2009 6:42:37 PM Shamino   Q : Blazen22 why is it recommended to reset cmos after flashing bios? A : to load defaults so its stable and ME functions are not disabled
 
09/17/2009 6:42:40 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : Sean1 Will their be a x58 4way chat soon? A : Yup, we can do this soon too
 
09/17/2009 6:43:41 PM Shamino   Q : hard core gaming and ocing 4.5 or better x58 or p55 i need input for my next build i have the 295 coop so you know i an not playing i will spend the money if have have clear cut gains in testing, ocing and gaming help A : both can givce u same experience - but x58 is hotter, more heat
 
09/17/2009 6:44:07 PM Shamino   Q : AcesofDeath7 When will the EVbot be available as an accessory for X58 classifieds? A : hopefully in less than a month
 
09/17/2009 6:44:30 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Here is a question for a free T-Shirt, first person to name the max PWM frequency for the P55 Classified...
 
09/17/2009 6:45:03 PM emepror   up to 1333KHZ
 
09/17/2009 6:45:10 PM EVGATech_JacobF   That is the right answer!
 
09/17/2009 6:45:24 PM emepror   WOOT
 
09/17/2009 6:45:26 PM EVGATech_JacobF   email nickm@evga.com for a free shirt, include your shipping addy
 
09/17/2009 6:46:09 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Q : emepror are there any plans on having kingpin use P55 boards in his contests? A : Yes! Check out the F1OC event for this month, featuring EVGA P55 :)
 
09/17/2009 6:47:34 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Another question for a free T-Shirt
 
09/17/2009 6:47:58 PM EVGATech_JacobF   How many power phases does the EVGA P55 FTW have?
 
09/17/2009 6:48:16 PM Daguava   12
 
09/17/2009 6:48:20 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Thats right :)
 
09/17/2009 6:48:35 PM EVGATech_JacobF   email nickm@evga.com for a free shirt, include your shipping addy
 
09/17/2009 6:48:53 PM EVGATech_JacobF   One more shirt
 
09/17/2009 6:49:34 PM EVGATech_JacobF   How did Agent Tiny remove the X58 Northbridge chip?
 
09/17/2009 6:49:40 PM bomberboysk   shaving
 
09/17/2009 6:49:45 PM EVGATech_JacobF   yup
 
09/17/2009 6:49:48 PM EVGATech_JacobF   wow you type fast :)
 
09/17/2009 6:50:07 PM bomberboysk   woot free tshirt
 
09/17/2009 6:50:14 PM EVGATech_JacobF   email nickm@evga.com for your shirt
 
09/17/2009 6:50:23 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Thats it
 
09/17/2009 6:50:24 PM emepror   what does the T-shirt look like? link me!
 
09/17/2009 6:50:28 PM emepror   coolio
 
09/17/2009 6:50:29 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Thanks everyone for participating
 
09/17/2009 6:50:34 PM emepror   nice...thanks!!1
 
09/17/2009 6:50:35 PM Blazen22   Thanks EVGA, Thanks Shamino
 
09/17/2009 6:50:39 PM EVGATech_JacobF   Also the shirt has red EVGA on the front
 
09/17/2009 6:50:40 PM Sean1   Thanks
 
09/17/2009 6:50:40 PM bomberboysk   http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=100903000
 
09/17/2009 6:50:40 PM AcesofDeath7   Fun had by all!
 
09/17/2009 6:50:43 PM DraginElite   thank you for having this :)
 
09/17/2009 6:50:46 PM Halo_003   Thanks for doing this guys
 

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