Chat log with NVIDIA

Chat log with k|ngp|n on all things enthusiast

A special thanks to Vince Lucido for joining our community and thanks of course to our community for coming out and asking some great questions.

Timestamp Nick   Message
5/14/2009 6:01:56 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   As everyone knows, we have with us k|ngp|n - one of the great overclocking gurus
5/14/2009 6:02:03 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   He'll be with us about an hour
5/14/2009 6:02:07 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   so let's make it good!
5/14/2009 6:02:17 PM k|ngp|n   Q : AuDioFreaK39 Question 1: Vince on a scale of 1 to 10 how awesome is the Classified?! A : 11 :)
5/14/2009 6:02:48 PM k|ngp|n   Q : babyballa what got you into overclocking? A : Wanting more performance out of my PC
5/14/2009 6:03:05 PM k|ngp|n   Q : what would be the benefits for me as an overcloker to use LN2 rathern than water or air cooling? A : YOu can break world records with Ln2
5/14/2009 6:03:22 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Is Shamino still youre #1 choice as an over clocking team mate? A : 100%
5/14/2009 6:03:43 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Buckeye: What was the hardest part of running LN2 in there early years for you, can you describe what it was like back then ? A : Temperature control, the pots wern't tuned great back then
5/14/2009 6:04:31 PM k|ngp|n   Q : xxrabid93: Have you ever used liquid helium? If so, how much more of a boost do you get with it? A : Not yet, but I will very soon ;)
5/14/2009 6:05:02 PM k|ngp|n   Q : kensown61 I have the F1EE block but want to start with dice. Is the block tall enough? Is there a extention kit? A : Yes, I sell a nice extension for it and it works killer for phenom -LN2 and Dryice all platforms
5/14/2009 6:06:21 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Nex_lupus: What do you prefer for tim and how do you like applying it? A : I used to use ceramique religously, but got lazy and started using the chapo stuff and didnt really notice muhc of a difference. Water will acuum in the silicone though if it's not thick enough
5/14/2009 6:06:32 PM k|ngp|n   Q : punx223 should i reset the cosmos? A : Please do!!!!!
5/14/2009 6:06:49 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Blazen22 Why don't you game? A : I do, I play ut quite a bit
5/14/2009 6:07:10 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Blazen22: Will there be another kIngpIn over clocking Priceless video? A : I doubt it
5/14/2009 6:07:18 PM k|ngp|n   Q : punx223: Whats the highest uncore you have hit on the classified? A : Close to 5K
5/14/2009 6:07:48 PM k|ngp|n   Q : ablatman About how much dry ice/liquid nitrogen do you go through in an hour long session? A : I can go through about 10-15litres with a 4-5 container rig :)
5/14/2009 6:08:26 PM k|ngp|n   Q : EdwardN: What's the biggest (most explosive, dramatic etc) hardware failure you've had? A : I have seen caps shoot off the boards like rockets a few times :) and one time a 590isli mobo caught fire :)
5/14/2009 6:09:04 PM k|ngp|n   Q : ablatman Do you make your own pots, or do you have someone local to you handle the manufacturing? A : I make them myself now, I do alot of the machinework...Im learning still
5/14/2009 6:09:23 PM k|ngp|n   Q : EdwardN what was the first thing you overclocked? A : P4
5/14/2009 6:09:46 PM k|ngp|n   Q : frogtea: how did you get to the top,with a passion for overlocking r straight aggression ? A : Both, I really have never stopped since I started
5/14/2009 6:10:47 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Pistolkilla How often do you have a hardware failure with LN2 before you get a winning combo that sets records? A : Sometimes none. Last two weeks I blew up 3 E8600's and 2 rampage extremes though :( It's been a bad two weeks..
5/14/2009 6:11:16 PM k|ngp|n   Q : [p]wnzor: Whats your secret/favorite trick for motherboard insulation when sub 0? A : rocks. Sham goes crazy with that stuff!!!
5/14/2009 6:11:40 PM k|ngp|n   Q : oliverdaniel : about what temperatures will LN2 allow me to have on a full load with an i7 920? A : Depends on where the chip cold bugs and what pot you are using
5/14/2009 6:12:13 PM k|ngp|n   Q : oliverdaniel why have we started to use LN2 instead of any other chemicals for cooling? A : It's more economical than liquid helium and there really is no other good choice for those temps
5/14/2009 6:12:57 PM k|ngp|n   Q : kensown61 what the longest benching session that you have done? A : ONe bench session straight...logest was at nvision with sham :) from 9pm till 9am
5/14/2009 6:13:37 PM k|ngp|n   Q : voklskier4452: So we all know you have won countless contests and hold an amazing amount of records, but which one meant the most to you A : I really appreciate everything I have done with shamino alot
5/14/2009 6:13:46 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Nex_lupus Whats your fav Music to concentrate to while you build computers and even LN2 cool to? or do you prefer complete silence? A : SLAYER!!!!!!
5/14/2009 6:14:09 PM k|ngp|n   Q : ablatman: What do you do to prepare a board for extreme cooling, and how long does it usually take you to do it for one board? A : Maybe 1/2hr or so
5/14/2009 6:14:15 PM k|ngp|n   Q : daleprose Since you use LN2 how important is it to insulate the MB??? A : VERY!
5/14/2009 6:14:43 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Afterburner: What do you like the most about you time so far with EVGA? BTW... Thanks for all you do! A : THe fact that they are very cool in the way they support overclocking. EVGA has done alot for me
5/14/2009 6:15:19 PM k|ngp|n   Q : ablatman: Out of every platform you have ever overclocked, which was your favorite? A : X58 platform was pretty damn fun
5/14/2009 6:15:41 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Blazen22: Do you think AMD will ever come back and top intel? A : DUNNO..we'll see. THey need better ipc, they have the scaling
5/14/2009 6:16:11 PM k|ngp|n   Q : EdwardN what is your next big challenge? ie a certain speed, a new cooling method, a personal goal... A : 7ghz on amd and benching the new nvidia dual gpu card with shamino again in a few weeks ;)
5/14/2009 6:16:28 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Deux Months Any plans for a F1EE successor tuned specifically for Nehalem in the near future? A : It's classified
5/14/2009 6:17:02 PM k|ngp|n   Q : oliverdaniel Who came up with the idea of using LN2...i mean you can pretty much freeze ur stuff? A : I dont know, it's pretty damn cold so it works well. I definitely didnt invent it lol
5/14/2009 6:17:40 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Deux Months: If you had to give one piece of advice to someone trying to break into the extreme benching scene, what would it be? A : Dont give up when you blow stuff up, learn how to mod good
5/14/2009 6:18:15 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Skydive: When setting up for LN2 cooling, what are some of the essential tools and must haves you recommend? A : vaseline, closed cell foam both flat sheet and tublular, temp probes, meters lots of paper towel
5/14/2009 6:18:35 PM k|ngp|n   Q : babyballa why don't you post on the forums? A : evga forums? I dunno guess just too busy
5/14/2009 6:18:42 PM k|ngp|n   Q : xxrabid93: what is your favorite food to keep you going during long oc'ing sessions? A : REd bull
5/14/2009 6:18:52 PM k|ngp|n   Q : daleprose What do you use to insulate the MB?? A : """""""
5/14/2009 6:19:21 PM k|ngp|n   Q : [p]wnzor: Heard tons of rumors, etc, etc, etc...whats the deal with your pots. And how does one go about obtaining one? (Slayer? really? lol) A : I will have a website up soon, util then email me at
5/14/2009 6:19:56 PM k|ngp|n   Q : oliverdaniel where can we get LN2 cooling systems? A : I sell pots and so do alot of other guys
5/14/2009 6:20:15 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Blackhawk4 What have been your favorite CPUs to overclock? A : E8600, phenom2, Pentium M
5/14/2009 6:20:24 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Afterburner What is your favorite bench test for your GPU's? A : Nature 01 and vantage
5/14/2009 6:20:41 PM k|ngp|n   Q : AuDioFreaK39: What are the highest core frequences you've hit with EVGA GTX 295 Quad-SLI? A : Me and sham were doing almost 1100mhz
5/14/2009 6:20:50 PM k|ngp|n   Q : mrmuiz we talking to a bot? A : nope :)
5/14/2009 6:21:38 PM k|ngp|n   Q : voklskier4452: Your pots are considered by most to be the best in the world, how did you learn to design them so effciently A : Alot of trial and error. I have alot of prototypes here that suck. Now alot of guys just bite, it pisses me off but what can you do
5/14/2009 6:21:44 PM k|ngp|n   Q : ablatman What do you do with leftover LN2 after a competition? A : drink it
5/14/2009 6:22:19 PM k|ngp|n   Q : nordicjedi: Based on overclocking, which would you say created a bigger impact - P4 to Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Duo to i7? A : Just kidding on that last one kids.. p4 to core2 was huge
5/14/2009 6:22:30 PM k|ngp|n   Q : EdwardN: what technology are you most looking forward to overclocking? Anything on the horizon you're excited about? A : new dual gpu NV card
5/14/2009 6:22:48 PM k|ngp|n   Q : clamatowas: Have you used a Phase change unit? Do you notice a difference in that over Liquid Nitrogen? A : Yah it's not as cold and not very flexible on temps
5/14/2009 6:23:01 PM k|ngp|n   Q : MSim: Do you think lapping is worth it, do you lapp every cpu you overclock? A : yah, I just lapped a phenom and got almost 100mhz
5/14/2009 6:23:57 PM k|ngp|n   Q : oliverdaniel is it dangerous for us overclockers to use LN2...if we get in contact with it? A : No it's safe if your smart. It vaporizes when it touches your skin as longs as it's not held there, just use alot of ventilation
5/14/2009 6:24:25 PM k|ngp|n   Q : ablatman Where do you get your LN2? A : praxair, but they suck because they are closing down the place i have been going too for yrs...
5/14/2009 6:24:40 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Pistolkilla I have never been to a public overclocking event. What is it like? How can I get involved? A : look around the forums
5/14/2009 6:25:25 PM k|ngp|n   Q : [p]wnzor: When designing your F1 did you find there came a point where adding more mass or increasing the surface area of the internals no longer yielded much of an improvement? A : I have revs with much more surface area and they are too swingy for cold bugged quads still. The f1 has a nice balance
5/14/2009 6:25:30 PM k|ngp|n   Q : babyballa: Do you prefer AMD or Intel? an why? A : doesnt matter
5/14/2009 6:26:23 PM k|ngp|n   Q : xxrabid93: I assume you have a 24/7 system, so what are you rocking in it? A : it's garbage..old board and cards with wires hanging off of it. I used to have 7900gtx sli, until one card shorted and caught fire!
5/14/2009 6:26:27 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Renuar wich the best site to start learning oc ? A :
5/14/2009 6:26:49 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Slagar: In your opinion, what's the best way to test CPU stability? A : CPU test in 3dmark 2006 and vantage as well as Wprime
5/14/2009 6:27:05 PM k|ngp|n   Q : ablatman: What's the lowest temperature you've ever successfully cold-booted a system at? A : -186c with phenom
5/14/2009 6:31:23 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   Stand by please
5/14/2009 6:31:41 PM xxrabid93   Joe broke it!!!
5/14/2009 6:31:45 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   That is the correct answer
5/14/2009 6:32:10 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   Don't take it personal that we're rejecting questions
5/14/2009 6:32:14 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   We reject ALL questions
5/14/2009 6:33:57 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   We cut/paste questions into the program so he can answer
5/14/2009 6:34:03 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   But he has to stay connected for that...
5/14/2009 6:34:56 PM   someone quick overclock this server and make it stable
5/14/2009 6:35:55 PM k|ngp|n   Q : xxrabid93 I think Joe needs a timeout! A : yep
5/14/2009 6:36:19 PM Slagar   WE LOVE YOU EVGA!
5/14/2009 6:36:21 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   We love you
5/14/2009 6:39:11 PM k|ngp|n   Q : oliverdaniel do you consider good to use LN2 with gpus? A : yah, you get way higer clocks and scores for benchmarks like vantage
5/14/2009 6:40:03 PM k|ngp|n   Q : oliverdaniel how much do i need to spend in order just to get the LN2 system? A : cpu pot is less than 300.00 now
5/14/2009 6:40:28 PM k|ngp|n   Q : spitfire5792: Hello kingpin, I was wondering what your favorite ovverclocking software is? A : I live evgatool and eleet alot. Also setfsb and amd's overdrive
5/14/2009 6:40:59 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Renuar: What is your fav Pc Game and GPU ever ? A : I love all ut games and my fav gpu was prolly g80
5/14/2009 6:41:16 PM k|ngp|n   Q : oliverdaniel how much do i need to spend in order just to get the LN2 system? A : less than 300 for cpu unit and less than 200 for gpu unit
5/14/2009 6:41:45 PM k|ngp|n   Q : xxrabid93 Have you ever tried using LN2 on the NB, SB, and or mofset? A : yes, it works on NB very well higher fsb's on x48 and 790i
5/14/2009 6:42:07 PM k|ngp|n   Q : daleprose What do you think of the new Xeon CPUs? A : they are pretty sweet, sham broke a speed record with one on the classified recently, just sick
5/14/2009 6:43:43 PM k|ngp|n   Q : mgorius: Do you have people that help you screen prospective CPU's? or do you just buy a bunch of retail chips an hope for the best? A : Sometimes one or the other, you can't overclock a dud cpu no matter what..I always look for the ebst cpus when I bench usually, but it is a long process sometimes
5/14/2009 6:43:58 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Slagar: So Mr.King what is the best AMD based motherboard to overclock on? A : I lvoe teh m4a79T DELUXE FOR PHENOM2
5/14/2009 6:44:25 PM k|ngp|n   Q : punx223 have you seen benefits from benching SSD's vs platter drives? A : I hate ssd's for overclocking, they corrupt easily
5/14/2009 6:44:56 PM k|ngp|n   Q : punx223 before you start your sessions, do you have multiple different os images for each bench? or do you run them all on the same os? A : yes, that how its done :) I use programs like ghost and true image
5/14/2009 6:45:40 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Skydive: What is it like reaching "celebrity" status in the overclocking community? A : I dont consider myself a celebrity, now shamino...that is a celebrity!
5/14/2009 6:46:03 PM k|ngp|n   Q : punx223 Do you offer s tep up program like evga's but for your pots? A : haha..actually not a bad idea. WE have discussed taking back "cores" of old units
5/14/2009 6:46:18 PM k|ngp|n   Q : FreeJet If you overclock a system fast enough, will it go back in time? A : If it's possible, i will find out for sure
5/14/2009 6:46:52 PM k|ngp|n   Q : mgorius: Other than G80, favorite EVGA product of all time? A : Classified is pretty damn good product. My bro sham was all over that board and did a helluva job
5/14/2009 6:47:04 PM k|ngp|n   Q : waltlove_99: Will you and Shimino be using the 759 or the 760 Classified from now on? A : Prolly the non-nf200
5/14/2009 6:47:14 PM k|ngp|n   Q : thiererj how much time do you spend trying to obtain a specific overclock A : as long as it takes
5/14/2009 6:47:48 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Blazen22 Windows 7 beta or Vista? A : I havent tried windows7 yet, but ive heard good things
5/14/2009 6:48:17 PM k|ngp|n   Q : spitfire5792 Hello kingpin, I was wondering what your favorite ovverclocking software is? A : I like eleet, evga tool, setfsb, and amd overdrive
5/14/2009 6:48:18 PM spitfire5792   What do you think of the AMD black edition series, is it worth it?
5/14/2009 6:48:29 PM k|ngp|n   Q : spitfire5792 How long have you been overclocking for? A : since around 02-03
5/14/2009 6:48:55 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Renuar: Wha is the best cpu air cooler ? A : I really like the thermalright xtreme
5/14/2009 6:49:12 PM k|ngp|n   Q : mgorius Does Sham really like cookies as much as you say? A : yah, teh guy is a straight up chips ahoy fiend!
5/14/2009 6:49:31 PM k|ngp|n   Q : mgorius If you were stranded on an island, who would you want with you other than Shamino? A : Shamino's doppleganger :)
5/14/2009 6:50:14 PM k|ngp|n   Q : BioHazardSperm: everyone has that one DOAH mistake,what was your most memorable mistake ? A : Putting my best E8600 into a rampage extreme knowing damn well that the chip was damn cpu executioner!!!!
5/14/2009 6:50:50 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Starbuck5000: whats the highest fsb you ever achieved with Core 2 and on what board? A : 670fsb on rampage extreme
5/14/2009 6:51:01 PM k|ngp|n   Q : mack4033 what brands of ram do you use to set records if you can tell us A : CORSAIR all the way
5/14/2009 6:51:25 PM k|ngp|n   Q : thiererj what board are you currently using for your overclocking A : EVGA classfied and asus m4a79tdeluxe for phenom
5/14/2009 6:52:18 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Starbuck5000: As you prefer platter drives which ones do you use A : I use old-ass western digital ide caviar drives 80gb :)
5/14/2009 6:52:24 PM k|ngp|n   Q : AuDioFreaK39: Do you have any plans to overclock on the upcoming LGA1156 Lynnfield platform? A : FOr sure
5/14/2009 6:52:31 PM k|ngp|n   Q : thiererj you and sham seem pretty tight, have you guys been friends longer than you've been overclocking? A : Nope
5/14/2009 6:52:58 PM k|ngp|n   Q : mgorius: what is your favorite annual OCing event? A : Nvision was a blast, but I heard they werent having it this year :( oh well bad economy I guess
5/14/2009 6:53:26 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   (need more questions!)
5/14/2009 6:53:30 PM k|ngp|n   Q : oliverdaniel : do you consider LN2 the ultimate solution for overclockers? A : Liquid helium is the "ultimate" of course, but really impractical for 99% of us
5/14/2009 6:54:14 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Blazen22 Are you going to tr to hit over 2400 MHz with Corsairs Dominator GT memory for a world record? A : I would love too, will see soon. I am testing them in the lab right now with the corsair tec kit
5/14/2009 6:54:29 PM k|ngp|n   Q : oliverdaniel do you still think x58 to good compared to x58 classified A : yah they are so close..
5/14/2009 6:55:07 PM k|ngp|n   Q : CorvetteZ06C5 What do you think is the largest challenge you have overcome? A : Competing against guys that were sponsored, and then getting the sponsors myself
5/14/2009 6:55:24 PM k|ngp|n   Q : punx223 did you have to clear your cosmos so you would stop getting kicked from chat? A : Once I clear the cosmos, im good to go!
5/14/2009 6:56:41 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Skydive: I have relatives in Michigan, if I come out there, can I skate our mini-ramp? A : of course...we just put a nice feature into lowering one side of teh 16ft width about 5 inches. Hard to explain but it's nice. RIght now waiting for resurfacing :(
5/14/2009 6:57:22 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Blackhawk4: Are you going to get the i975 as soon as it comes out? A : These xeons are pretty sick, dunno. Have to wait and see if they cold bug
5/14/2009 6:58:27 PM k|ngp|n   Q : [p]wnzor: What advice do you have for others that want to "go pro" so to speak? A : If you prepare your stuff right, you wont kill stuff. If someone send you something, do whatever you can to make them send you something else and it will snowball if you work hard
5/14/2009 6:58:56 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   Last few questions now guys
5/14/2009 6:59:17 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Prohibition: have you had anyone to mentor you and guide you in your OC process or do you just trial and error it and hope for the positive? A : A bit of both. I learned somethign from everyone I ever benched with in addition to self-discovery
5/14/2009 7:00:05 PM k|ngp|n   Q : punx223 It seems very hard for us average overclockers to get noticed. How should we go about it? A : You have to break records straight up. Anyway you can make it happen. I went broke for a few yrs trying to keep up with sponsored guys, it was a gamble for sure
5/14/2009 7:00:11 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Slagar: What do you think of linux? Does it have any potential? A : nah
5/14/2009 7:00:21 PM k|ngp|n   Q : clamatowas: Have you ever used Mineral oil to protect the MB? If so how did it work in comparison to the Vaseline? A : havent tried it
5/14/2009 7:00:43 PM k|ngp|n   Q : punx223 whos the best overclocker at evga besides peter? A : Jake seems to know his stuff
5/14/2009 7:02:14 PM k|ngp|n   Q : AuDioFreaK39: Does running DDR3 1600MHz at CL6 make any difference over CL7? A : if you on a platform that cant do high mhx, than yes. ON phenom 2, the ddr3 mem controller is still weak, so i run my gt's at 6-7-6-20. It's really the only alternative. But if I can go high mhz like 1100mhz+ cas7, i'll do it. It's all about what the board will give you.
5/14/2009 7:02:35 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Dally: You and shamino. Is there new board in design from EVGA with your both names on it? A : I hopes so....$$$$$$$$$$
5/14/2009 7:03:09 PM k|ngp|n   Q : Starbuck5000 Do you reckon Hipro or SF3D will ever catch you? A : Hipro can catch me anytime he wants :)
5/14/2009 7:03:31 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   All right everyone
5/14/2009 7:03:38 PM EVGAWeb_ShaneD   Let's all thank kingpin for coming out!
5/14/2009 7:03:42 PM oliverdaniel   thank you for your time!
5/14/2009 7:03:43 PM spitfire5792   Thank you
5/14/2009 7:03:43 PM Blazen22   THANKS
5/14/2009 7:03:44 PM fGeorge   thnkxxxx
5/14/2009 7:03:44 PM punx223   thank yo
5/14/2009 7:03:45 PM Slagar   Thanks King!
5/14/2009 7:03:45 PM mgorius   thank you
5/14/2009 7:03:46 PM punx223   you
5/14/2009 7:03:46 PM nooop   Thanks :)
5/14/2009 7:03:46 PM ablatman   Thanks!
5/14/2009 7:03:47 PM voklskier4452   thanks kingpin!!!
5/14/2009 7:03:47 PM mack4033   thank you
5/14/2009 7:03:48 PM Dally   thanks
5/14/2009 7:03:49 PM EVGATech_JakeC   Thanks vince
5/14/2009 7:03:49 PM punx223   thanks
5/14/2009 7:03:49 PM thiererj   THANKS MAN
5/14/2009 7:03:50 PM clamatowas   Thanks
5/14/2009 7:03:50 PM Renuar   thanx
5/14/2009 7:03:51 PM capple01   Thanks!
5/14/2009 7:03:52 PM Skydive   Thanks for joining us, Vince!
5/14/2009 7:03:53 PM Afterburner   Thanks man... props...

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